How can anyone doubt the NWO is the end goal when..

are you suggesting my post was any old crap without so much as even "1" contradictory citation to support your naked supposition?

Especially since further information on the owners is protected under foia and cannot be accessed?

Sounds like its pretty good crap to me.

 

OdonII- this is why people say you're a disinformation agent. "You're very smart" well, what a back-handed compliment. You say I'm "manipulating" facts, when all I'm doing is asking questions, and gathering information regarding it.

I didn't say Obama was using population control because of abortions; but his appointed science Czar John Holdren actually co-authored a book entitled "advocating for eugenics."

Eugenics was a way to kill "undesirables" off. through chemicals that cause other illnesses, GMO's and other deadly chemicals in our food, Live birth abortions, government ran healthcare and even, armed population control, is what this man supports.

I am smart, and I know something else is going on. If there is nothing going on, than the UN, US and, UK has totally incapable leaders; I believe, they know exactly what they're doing, and all this is part of the plan. Obviously, you and I aren't going to see eye to eye. You totally ignore any government activity and act as though people MUST comply, even if the government doesn't follow it's own rules.

Finally, I don't follow "Which Amendments suite me," I respect, protect and, utilize all aspects of the Constitution. Even less known parts like what is allowed to bring us to war, and gold/silver is the only legal currency in the US. You seem to be a happy subject of the Queens'-- Don't let me awake you from your comfy matrix.

 

Zzap

Your Global research article told us who the owners of ExxonMobil are.
Perhaps a more accurate description was who the owner(s) were.
I posted the major shareholders.

Vanguard Group, Inc. (The)
State Street Corporation
BlackRock Institutional Trust Company, N.A.
Bank of New York Mellon Corporation
Northern Trust Corporation
Wellington Management Company, LLP
JP Morgan Chase & Company
Bank of America Corporation
BlackRock Fund Advisors

None own more than 50% of the company, so none of them can legitimately say they 'own' Exxonmobil.

If you just go on the names mentioned in your article, then it's no more than 10%.
If you were to add the others that own shares in the other companies mentioned then it's no more than 20%.
These chaps are major shareholders, no doubt, but they do not own the company.

I have not done the same with the other oil giants, but I have a feeling the same thing is true.

All your article said was: 'The Four Horsemen of Banking (Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo) own the Four Horsemen of Oil (Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP Amoco and Chevron Texaco'

'Global research' obviously believe they have enough data to say that Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo own ExxonMobil...

So where is there/your evidence?

It is any old crap if you refuse to support it with evidence, or not just say (paraphrase): 'Find out for yourself, obviously you have to go back 100 years or more, they are not going to give up ownership etc etc etc - I haven't the time or inclination to post anything more than some article I happened to have read.'

 

Government land control. Coming to your city, very soon!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...es-federal-order-taking-almost-half-his-crop/

 

StpLSD25

It was: 'Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment'.
I'm not sure where you got the title "advocating for eugenics".

I said: 'Suggesting Obama agrees that killing babies when they are born, is just pathetic.'

'This week, a group of professors linked to Oxford University who are recognized as experts in the field of medical ethics published a paper called “After-birth abortion: why should the baby live?” In this paper, they argue that newborn babies do not have a “moral right to life” and that parents ought to be able to have their babies killed if they don’t want them after they are born.
Let that sink in for a minute.
Now consider this: The President of the United States agrees with them.'

I know what eugenics is.

The manipulation is that you have no evidence Obama is using eugenics/population control - so you throw out some 40 year old book that was debating many different arguments about 'population control' and other issues.
Which means what, exactly, in 2013?
And also some research paper that argues killing healthy babies after birth is ok, and that Obama thinks that's ok, and all of this is current Obama policy.

It's ridiculous.

 

Actually, there's plenty of proof. He signed the Monsanto protection act which prevents people from suing this cancer-causing company. They are even planning on putting medications in our food. Rat get huge tumors after just 4 months of eating GMO products, and this garbage is given to us to eat, with media silent regarding its danger. We, in America have seen medications which cause other illnesses. Shots made for H1N1 actually paralyzed and killed people. It's not a matter of "bad drugs," it's a matter of getting rid of some extras.

I doubt you'll ever come out of your matrix though. Governments throughout history have slaughtered to keep power- why would America or the UK be different? It's not, and people like you are in for a rude awakening when troops are kicking in your doors.

 

This is what I mean...

There isn't such a thing as the 'Monsanto protection act'.

If ***** wanted to reduce the population of the planet/America - then **** wouldn't vaccinate anybody.
Then instead of under a hundred having an adverse reaction/dying then hundreds of millions of people would drop dead instead.
Am I giving you too much credit in knowing that vaccinations can cause reactions but in comparison save hundreds of millions of lives.
So how many PEOPLE do you know that have massive cancerous tumours thanks to eating GMO?

You think GMO's were designed for population reduction...?

Dear god, man...words fail me

 

when you qoute the circumstances during the creation it goes without saying who the major shareholders are, you on the other hand are making a claim that these same people no longer have an ownership interest after 75-100 years of evolution and apparently seem to think the most greedy people on the planet are dumb enough to give up their wealth. Quote one time in history that ever occurred. What you claim goes against human nature and the laws of banker greed and frankly is absurd, you are the one who needs to support your claim which pretends that trusts and corps do not exist in other names.

Only a complete fool would think that someone could not create any number of corporations and trusts that "THEY WOULD HAVE CONTROLLING INTEREST" then become the major investors. In fact its what I would do for several good reasons if I were a greed bankster.

So dont look at me to do your homework for you and feel free to prove up your claim.

 

They just started GMO's in the 90's. How am i supposed to know who gets cancer from what? cancer in rampant today, and many different man-made chemicals are involved.

No such thing, eh?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/mpa.asp

You blindly trust government, but fight it with no valid argument but to say "trust them." I meant he wrote a book which advocates for eugenics, infact, he does it all the time!

You're the one ignoring the facts and manipulating information..

 

Zzap

I have given the names of the major shareholders. And also accepted some are inter-connected (share-holders in other companies). It adds upto about 20% - maybe less. Nowhere near a controlling interest/ownership. I think I'm right in saying this is the tactic you used before: Placed the onus on myself to disprove your claim.

Didn't you use some lawyer flim-flam, too?
It might have been somebody else who couldn't provide any evidence - was too damn lazy to

 

Well, you seemed pretty darned sure - with all your rat research and such.
Lets say 1995 - that's 18 years.
Surely enough time for something to come to light.

No. What you mean is: (wiki) “Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act” The Farmer Assurance Provision refers to Section 735 (formerly Section 733) of US H.R. 933

No, I look at the population growth.
In the book he 'advocates' many various solutions.
It's called an 'intellectual exercise'.
Your argument is some dusty old book from nearly forty years ago that you have not read, and your aversion to GMO's.
Why don't you throw in the Mayan calendar, too.
Perhaps the bible.
The simple point is: Where are the depopulation policies?

When was the last time he wrote/spoke about it?

 

not much I can do when someone is either in denial or simply dont get it. unless you get every name not just the major shareholders both public and private, good luck with the private, foia wont work, and fully research each one you got skunk piss. How many ways do you need it explained to you?

that and only a complete idiot would think that these people would set up a corporation and instead of themselves as owners enter the zimbabwe tribe for shit sake. You dont seem to get or are in denial about that as well.

Is that the best brits can do is chase their tails?

 

Cancer rates have been falling for decades.

"Incidence rates of most leading cancers are decreasing, including all cancer combined, prostrate, female breast, lung, and colorectal cancers. Incidence rates are also decreasing for other sites, including cancers of the ovary, stomach, uterine cervix, brain and other nervous system, and larynx."

http://progressreport.cancer.gov/doc_detail.asp?pid=1&did=2009&chid=93&coid=920

You build such a flimsy house of cards out of thousands of ill-conceived cards and if you just stopped and were honest about only a few of those cards you'd see the whole thing really can't support itself.

Nobody is trying to kill your babies. Nobody is trying to take your land. Nobody is trying to take your guns. You have built yourself up into your own little hovel of fear and paranoia, and now you cannot trust anybody around you and live as a stranger in your own land. I really feel sorry for you and others like you who have been seduced by right-wing radio and media to believe that there is some satanic islamic communist banking conspiracy, the end goal of which is to control every aspect of your life. What's worse is you think most people around you support such a thing; you actually think people who vote "liberal" want their lives micro-managed and ruled over.

For you I truly wish peace of mind, maybe one day you will be lucky enough to outgrow this nonsense.

 

ah dunno man, the only way I would be able to have peace of mind is if my head were buried in the sand.

You need to research burzynski and his antineoplastons. They have phds blasting him on the quqck watch the FDA sued him 5 times and got him thrown in jail and while he was in jail they stole his patents.

It was so agregious that it got the attention of congress who had a hearing with the FDA and said WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING? All that harrassment and no one was punished in the FDA.

The FDA even studied his work in that not obly can he predict who will get cancer but also had a kick ass success rate with brain cancer when chemo was 0 for 0. Even wiki says he is using chemo when its not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burzynski_Clinic

they limited his practice to texas and have done everything they can to block his truly capitalizing on this.

He has had this available since the late 70s! They dont want to cure cancer and rather than using an amino acid synthetic derivative to build the immune system to fight its own cancer they use poisons like CHEMO!

Its RICO man Total fucking RICO. While they may not be overtly killing people they are in no damn hurry to cure them now are they?

 

1976: Government admits forced sterilization of Indian Women

A study by the U.S. General Accounting Office finds that 4 of the 12 Indian Health Service regions sterilized 3,406 American Indian women without their permission between 1973 and 1976. The GAO finds that 36 women under age 21 had been forcibly sterilized during this period despite a court-ordered moratorium on sterilizations of women younger than 21.

Two years earlier, an independent study by Dr. Connie Pinkerton-Uri, Choctaw/Cherokee, found that one in four American Indian women had been sterilized without her consent. PInkerton-Uri’s research indicated that the Indian Health Service had “singled out full-blooded Indian women for sterilization procedures.”

Theme
Federal-Tribal Relations

Region
California, Great Basin, Great Plains, Northeast, Northwest Coast, Plateau, Southeast, Southwest

https://www.nlm.nih.gov/nativevoices/timeline/543.html

you know there is just not a damn thing good to be said about the fuckin government is there.

 

Zzap

Yet YOU post something that stated that V, W, X, and Y owned Z!

The stalemate is that you are happy with this but won't provide corroboration because you either can't (for the reasons you mention) or won't (because you are just basing it on your prejudices).
If I were to trawl my way though federal/international regulatory documents etc etc...
...you would still sit there and be resting on some random article you plucked from the internet - only backed with: 'well, those greedy swines are not going to give up ownership that easily - it's all back room stuff'

To use your lovely language: 'You got skunk piss'

 

Ok, ...

2013

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2013/06/05/odds-and-ends-about-burzynski-clinic/

http://burzynskiscam.com/

http://theotherburzynskipatientgroup.wordpress.com/

 

That is exactly what you are proposing 100 years after the fact as if you cannot create any number of corporations and trusts that you hold a controlling interest that are not major shareholders.

if people are foolish enough to accept that your [UN]reasoning that 5 men would create, start and invest in a corporation and without holding a controlling interest in the corporation they create is pure loonacy.

You cant accept being out reasoned.