How communism could work.

Discussion in 'Communism' started by Utilitarian, Mar 29, 2008.

  1. Utilitarian

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    I think the biggest problem with communists so far is they don't understand economics. They ought to treat the entire country's economy like one big business, that way you can give everyone an equal share under a legally binding legitimate business agreement. Since everyone will see their stock rise if they contribute they will support propoganda, bonuses for contributors and penalties against people who do not contribute, likewise they all have a say in the decisions made by the business. Or you could just give everyone a percentage of the GDP per capita each year or something.
     
  2. real_large

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    It's a great theory, Utlitarian, but I don't think it will ever work on a large scale. History (and capitalism, for all its countless faults) has made communism impossible -- at least in its true form. Too many experiments have failed and become dictatorships. Now people hear "communist" and think its a dirty word. What do you think?
     
  3. Utilitarian

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    I think communists did not base their ideas on logic so there was no reason to attempt them in the first place. My idea however it based on logic, not only do large corporations work on a similiar basis but there are concrete causal links between fact and theory and I do not dismiss ideas, such as utilising a currency, based on wishy washy marxist superstitions.
     
  4. gr00vy

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    Its possible for it to work correctly, the reason why it rarely has is because of countries corrupt leaders. I dont think its right or wrong, personally I feel better not thinking about any of it, and just living my life my own way.
     
  5. Utilitarian

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    Well I think I found the solution to that problem. Also I prefer to live a life where I know the truth.
     
  6. Jack-a-Roe72

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    Communism COULD work if there were no humans involved.
     
  7. Motion

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    Adam Smith was right overall about economics.
     
  8. real_large

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    .. and some guy named George Orwell was right overall about the corrupting nature of power.

    RE: "Animal Farm." Still haunts me every time I read it.
     
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    I think the biggest problem with communism is that humans are primates and not ants.
     
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    Under Communism I hope that I would be one of the people that is more equal.
     
  11. Jack-a-Roe72

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    EXACTLY.

    Far too many people have forgotten about Napoleon and his Dogs.
     
  12. TGRR

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    How can I forget, when he gives a speech every week or so?

    This country has been taken over by commies disguised as big business disguised as right wing religious nuts.
     
  13. Jack-a-Roe72

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    actually, the nuts are equally dispersed among both wings.

    Its kind of hard to put Commies and right wing in the same sentence.

    There are plenty of Socialists and Communists on the left wing that want this country to be a mandatory nanny state and there are plenty of big businessmen on the right side hanging around in the shadows who only care about profiteering off of middle class America and getting their Tax cut from GW himself.

    Either way, its a disaster waiting to happen. And the answer sure as hell does not lie within either of the two parties. no way.
     
  14. Utilitarian

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    Humans aren't primates.
     
  15. lithium

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    Yes we are...
    http://www.answers.com/human&r=67

    Order: Primates -> Suborder: Haplorrhini -> Family: Hominidae
     
  16. lithium

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    "Marxism: wonderful theory. Wrong species."
    - E.O. Wilson
     
  17. cotopaxi

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    there's no way communism could work with too big group of people. once you get power you don't want to get rid of it so you try to make other people dumb and get some profites of them. it doesn't suit everyone, so there will always be the one who'll abolish the previous one and than it becomes much worse...

    but i know some people living in small communes governed by the very idea of communism and it works quite well... maybe up to point. everyone has something to do (gardening, cooking, cleaning, shopping, repairing), everyone gives something, everyone gets something... if i have no boyfriend by my early thirties, i'll join them just to have something good to do and some people around.
     
  18. Utilitarian

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    No, that means humans are of the order primates, not that humans are primates. I think you just said "humans are primates" instead of "humans are not ants" so you can go "LOOK AT ME IM SO SMRT, I USED THE WORD PRIMATE HURR"
     
  19. Utilitarian

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    Lots of people have been saying that communism leads to corruption and is naive and I agree but there are a lot of people who still buy into the idea of it being a utopia, so my idea is to let market forces decide where communism is to be used because if communism is as great as they say it is then it should be marketable much like building societies, mutual funds and other instances of collective ownership that occur in the free market. Also all you need to do to get a boyfriend is take some exercise, women don't realise that muscle tone can make your more attractive.
     
  20. lithium

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    Please explain how that is different...
     

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