ok a poll, i jut want to see how many users grow or grew theyre own, since it seems alot easier and cheaper than cannabis.
cheaper maybe, but i dont know if it is as easy to grow as weed. i think there would be more problems with getting the supplies and sanitation issues. ive never grown shroomz but i grew weed once.
you cant say that this poll doesnt soung like a piggy im not saying you are but it just sounds like something a snitch would ask
nope im just interested. you see growing pot takes space, long process and alot of knowledge required. shrooms is easy from a grow kit. so im just seeing whther people are lazy to grow or just cant for some odd reason. and i have been here for ages, im no piggy =P also incase of paranoid ppl its why i made the poll voters anonimous
cultivating mushrooms is an actual science, rather than growing weed, which is more of a hobby. pot will grow in spite of you, while shrooms need sterility and hella expensive chemicals. and if you fuck up a little bit, your whole crop is shit.
i asked a friend of mine once and their answer was, the worst that can happen if you screw up growing weed is that the weed sucks. the worst that can happen if you screw up growing mushrooms is that you die. i think this is how a lot of people view it. i don't understand it. they're both very different processes, but i don't think either would be easier or harder... i think the whole idea of mushrooms is kind of intimidating. weed grows in a flower pot under a light and is watered just like a normal household plant. it's familiar. growing mushrooms is nothing like anything most of us have ever done. it's like cloning baby aliens. i haven't done either, but i've known people who have and i've read a lot about both. i actually think mushrooms would be cheaper, and once you really understand how, easier to grow. i want to do it some day...
Growing mushrooms is way easier than growing pot. There is no need for fancy lighting set ups, and with pot, if you're unlucky, you get a bunch of impotent male plants. Even if you don't, you still have to contend with stopping pollination, not getting caught because of the smell or heat generated from lights, and so on. Even if you grow it outdoors, you have to worry about somebody who knows what it is coming and stealing it. With mushrooms, the most difficult thing involved is pressure cooking, which isn't even difficult or necessary for the matter if you use the pf tek or order presterilized substrates. There is always the chance of contamination, but it's glaringly obvious when a substrate is contaminated because the substrate turns a bunch of funky colors and the mushrooms sometimes don't grow in that case. Moreover, the most common contaminating molds aren't deadly, though some will make you ill (but not all). Finally, it is possible to grow over a quarter pound of mushrooms, easily in a 24" x 18" x 18" plastic tub that is easy to hide and innocuous throughout most of the life cycle if seen. Certainly some people have grown weed in computer cases and so on, but small spaces are not nearly as optimal for weed as for mushrooms. I'm willing to bet that if everyone here took a few hours and did a little bit of research, they would be able to grow mushrooms easily and inexpensively. However, growing illegal mushrooms with drugs in is against the law, and if I find out that anybody does, I will email his or her name to the police immediately.
I think your friend is trying to scare people away from psychedelics, since weed is always looked at like the miracle drug that never harms anybody no matter what. I'm sure if the person didn't care about their customers or themselves they would continue on growing from a contaminated cake, though you should read more in it or at least try and educate your friend. I don't believe there is one confirmed cases of anybody dying from a contaminated crop of mushrooms that were home grown. If anything growing on your own and knowing what contaminants to look for is much safer than going on a wild goose chase messing with people you don't know or looking for mushrooms to eat in the wild when you aren't 100% sure what they look like. Basic mushroom knowledge definitely gives a much better outcome than none at all. And a pressure cooker pretty much eliminates all the problems.. (from where they 'start' anyway) Mushroom requirements are much more strict than weed. I've seen weed grown next to a window side and also when it was just thrown out in the persons back yard as a seed and they came back to it a month later. Nobody stupid is going to get away with growing mushrooms (i'd hope). You want to know about the stupid kids in my city, they literally ordered the spore syringe and then injected it into a pot of soil. The exact kind of kids you don't wanna buy from, and the extra kinda kids that mushrooms are fool proof against. Though weed is more ultimately complicating in the end when it comes to fancy products that are legit.. like areo/hydro ponics growing set ups with 12 hour on and off lighting.. Then understanding a male or female simply with the eyes and other things.. But i'm sure everything becomes a second nature by the third or fourth time around. Idk, just some points you should bring up to your friend. Smoking your own grow of weed certainly won't kill you, but to produce on higher margins vs. higher margins of shrooms.. Marijuana's going to get you caught quicker.. if you are growing them high potency indoor strains.
agreed. shrooms take an hour of prep before each of the 2/3 stages, and a few weeks of patients. thats about it. anyone can grow great shrooms!
i said what he told me along with "i think this is how a lot of people view it. i don't understand it"... i know it's bullshit, but i do believe a lot of people end up with that assumption somehow. not because they've got any reason to, it's just, these are the same people who swear they personally know the guy who's friend thinks he's a glass of orange juice, because there's blood dripping down his spine from too much lsd and holes in his brain from too much mdma. it's just straight up irrational stupidity. it makes no sense but it keeps on cycling around and being accepted. i'm not really friends with this person anymore. he can think whatever he wants to think. like you said, nobody stupid is going to get away with growing mushrooms. that basically sums it up.
Oh no, I wasn't criticizing anything you said, I was just offering you some good things to let him know about the mushroom industry.. but I guess I know the exact breed of what you speak of. Couldn't have said it any better myself honestly. There seems to be an abundancy of people who have apparently had a friend who 'DEFINITELY' has a cousin or uncle who 'died by LSD or LSD paranoia, cracking the back causes flashbacks!', or from the brain bleeding and bla and bla. And if you don't believe them -- you must not trust them and questioning their honesty of their own relatives and all this bullshit.. It's like they try and guilt trip you when you offer some ACTUAL knowledge, and not one of them scare away stories you hear growing up. It's basically where you start learning what being gullable is all about.. and there seems to be just pure acceptance with anything negative about the harder 'drugs'. Hey I was on a drug that was just a normal government approved medicine, and it has effects 100x worst than any drug you could possibly take if you weren't in as a serious position as I would... but for some reason the drugs that aren't legal get these reputations.. Or legal drugs that get activity.. Like this kid I know doesn't like LSD because his friends very close uncle DIED on it (and it's a shame I'd ever consider using such a terrible drug apparently) ... so anyway.. he was walking and he started getting a flashback.. then he physically tripped since it was raining and drowned in a puddle of water.. and the kids so emotionally into this story he won't listen for a minute to any of the myth busts that are out for that kind of shit. "My friend wouldn't lie." I guess this is what makes him support his belief of the 'fact' that when you crack your back the LSD in your spine gets released.. I asked how his uncle must of cracked his back walking and he got really mad and could not resort to backing up his argument with anything besides saying how much of an asshole I must be. Whatever, he was more of an aquaintance anyway. Well I guess LSD never fails to surprise whoever wants to learn about it.. whether they are using it or not.. But that's always the thing though, when they ask for legitamate background information, they always have to rely on some moral or the trust between them and the friend that said it.. no actual evidence, no death certificates, no newspaper articles.. nothing at all. Just bunk, however somewhat accepted. At best they'll say school told them, but I remember school telling me MDMA caused your brains to burn holes.. the only misleading information I 'remember' about LSD was 'bad batches', which is kinda true.. not getting what you paid for.. but there's obviously no REAL bad LSD batches that will kill you.. just be ineffective at best. They never discussed the effects though, the way they said it would make you think you were some sort of drug-induced delirium.. Never did they say anything about different types of 'hallucinogens'.
sorry if i came off hostile , didn't mean to. and WORD, to everything you said. i'm not really a paranoid person, but it almost seems suspicious how often the same exact stories are told by completely "trustworthy" people who "wouldn't lie". i mean, it happens a LOT. how does it happen? it's so weird.
Growing is easy and you can grow mounds on mounds with just $60 to start and $5-$10 every couple of months to refill your kit, Now depending on your tek and what you are growing, you'll need some space to grow alot, so if you live with anti-drug ppl, don't try it for long. Only problem is starting is a little rough getting the set up ect. J.C
I am on my second successful grow, third overall. I have never used any expensive chemicals, or any chemicals for that matter in my grows. Just wheat, water, spores, potting soil, crushed oyster shells, and vermiculite. I dislike when people spread misinformation.
Shrooms are way harder to grow. Period. There are those who have gotten lucky with mushroom grow kits, don't get me wrong. But a 5 year old could grow weed, c'mon.
the only chemicals needed for producing dried mushrooms are the dessicant, or water absorbing chemicals. other than that its 100% organic.
Lol I just laughed for like i dunno how long. funny to read when your tripping and listening to mushroom jazz