how much of this is misinfo?

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  1. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    I am still honing my newly developed skills of telling what is misinfo and what is legit.

    But my rader beeps a little bit with this one

    Am I right?

    and how can I become better at spotting BS? Cause some of the true stuff is crazier than the made up. Which is done on purpose.

    without further ado

    Dr. Joseph Mengele of Auschwitz notoriety was the principle developer of the trauma-basedMonarch Project and the CIA'sMK Ultra mind control programs. Mengele and approximately 5, 000 other high ranking Nazis were secretly moved into the United States and South America in the aftermath of World War II in an Operation designated Paperclip. The Nazis continued their work in developing mind control and rocketry technologies in secret underground military bases. The only thing we were told about was the rocketry work with former Nazi star celebrities like Warner Von Braun. The killers, torturers, and mutilators of innocent human beings were kept discretely out of sight, but busy in U.S. underground military facilities which gradually became home to thousands upon thousands of kidnapped American children snatched off the streets (about one million per year) and placed into iron bar cages stacked from floor to ceiling as part of the 'training'. These children would be used to further refine and perfect Mengele's mind control technologies. Certain selected children (at least the ones who survived the 'training') would become future mind controlled slaves who could be used for thousands of different jobs ranging anywhere from sexual slavery to assassinations. A substantial portion of these children, who were considered expendable, were intentionally slaughtered in front of (and by) the other children in order to traumatize the selected trainee into total compliance and submission.

    The lone gunman that we hear about in assassinations, assassination attempts, school shootings, etc. are mind controlled individuals who had been 'programmed' to carry out those missions. Ted Bundy, the 'Son of Sam' serial killer David Berkowitz, Oswald, Timothy McVeigh, the Columbine shooters, Chapman, Sirhan Sirhan, etc. were mind controlled individuals who were programmed to perform these killings. Tens of thousands of young teenage boys were kidnapped and forced into the mind control training program called The Montauk Project starting around 1976. Al Bielek, under mind control, was involved in many areas of the secret Montauk Project. After slowly recovering his memories beginning in the late 1980's, he came to realize that there were at least 250,000 mind controlled "Montauk Boys' produced at 25 different facilities similar to the underground base at Montauk, Long Island. Many of these boys were to become 'sleepers' who are individuals who were programmed to go into action at a later date when properly "triggered" to engage in some sort of destructive or disruptive conduct. Other Montauk Boys were woven into the fabric of mainstream American life as journalists, radio & TV personalities, businessmen, lawyers, medical professionals, judges, prosecutors, law enforcement, military men, etc.


    yah so beep beep, haha.

    some of it is legit for sure, other stuff struck me as BS done on purpose.

    I did not bold btw, though a few of the bold did happen to strike me as misinfo, but not all of it for sure.
     
  2. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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  3. Carlfloydfan

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    okay now I know it is misinfo

    Brice Taylor is the pseudonym for Susan Ford, one of the highest level MK Ultra mind controlled victims to ever come forward and reveal her story. It took her nearly 13 years to recover the memories of the events that she reveals in her book, Thanks for The Memories (published in May 1999). Her memories began to return in sporadic fragments in1985, following a car accident that threw her through the windshield of her car after hitting a tree. It wasn't really an accident as much as a result of mind control programming which compelled her to commit suicide if she began to recover critical memories about her role as a top level NASA/CIA mind controlled 'asset' who was used as a sex slave and message (or drug) courier for every president from Kennedy to Clinton and was Henry Kissinger's personal secretary/human computer (file storage and retrieval) for over 19 years. Her 'owner/handler' was comedian Bob Hope and she was 'loaned out' to many famous and well known entertainment personalities in order to oblige them to be beholding to and manipulated by Hope and his Illuminati pals so they could be used as "worker bees' to help usher in the Luciferian, New World Order.


    especially that last sentence but I want to read on anyways, haha.
     
  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    A lot of it has been admitted. We know about Project Paperclip, MK ULTRA and the various mind control experiments under various umbrella names because it's all been openly admitted. Yes, there really are mind controlled assassins programed for mass shootings, assassinations, and whatever else is needed to stir up the needed chaos in society. Yes, children are kidnapped and sold into prostitution rings, used as couriers for drugs, money, weapons, espionage, etc. This is all true.

    As far as some of these individual people who have come forward saying they were used as mind controlled slaves, it's hard to say if this is real or not, and it could be disinformation. A lot of their accounts do deal with things that really do happen, but it seems unlikely that they would be allowed to come forward with their accounts without having to worry about any repercussions. Some of these women might be under mind control or have experienced other forms of abuse where they THINK they were used by the government, and it could be nothing more than that. So it's impossible to say how valid these personal accounts are without any solid proof. It's a lot like these so-called "alien abductions".
     
  5. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    Bump.

    I personally believe that it is all true.


    And what strikes you as so unbelievable that a luciferian plot is attempting to take over the world?
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Well, I have no doubt the Al Bielek/Montauk stuff is disinfo.

    As far as people like Cathy O'Brien and Brice Taylor, it's hard to say. Their stories sound convincing and I am sure the things they describe do go on, but I find it hard to believe they're allowed to put this information out without any consequences.
     
  7. drew5147

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    Its because they are telling the truth.

    If they were spreading lies, they would be up to their necks in slander and libel suits.
     
  8. Hiptastic

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    Its all very sensational but there's no real evidence you can "program" someone's mind. These people were seriously harmed for junk science.

    You have to keep in mind there are geniunely mentally ill people out there, schizophrenia is a real condition.
     
  9. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    Well, of course its real. Do you think we believe that it exists only in fantasy land?
     
  10. Hiptastic

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    Yes.
     
  11. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    As evidenced by what?


    Consider this a test.
     
  12. Hiptastic

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    Gosh I hope I pass.

    Evidenced by the lack of evidence? You're the one with something to prove.
     
  13. gaiabee

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    I don't know much about anything else mentioned in the article... but *this* I'd render complete bullshit. The phenomenon of "recovered memories" simply does not exist. Furthermore, any memories that would theoretically be recovered would be completely unreliable as memory is always reconstructed.

    by who?
     
  14. Hiptastic

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    They have been "admitted" by the people behind them.

    But there's a bait and switch here - did Paperclip and MK Ultra exist? Yes. Did they do what Rat says they did? No.
     
  15. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    What did they do then? If you are always so correct? And you always call on people to back to their claims.

    BACK UP YOURS!


    That's what I was testing you on, to give proof that we think that schizophrenia isn't real, either by a quote or other source.


    And you failed.


    And who says you can't recover memories? I do it all the time... Its called remembering...
     
  16. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Um... there were hearings on MK ULTRA in the 70s, you idiot (referring to "Hiptastic").

    Why don't you try listening to some of the testimony of the people who were involved instead of talking like you know something you have not a clue about.

    So tell me, what have I claimed that you claim didn't happen under MK ULTRA?
     
  17. drew5147

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    The government was really looking for a way to breed pink elephants!
     
  18. Hiptastic

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    Sorry I got confused there. I didn't realise that's what you were talking about.
    Um... sorry are you hearing voices again? I specifically said they exist.
     
  19. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    And yet again, you dodge the question completely and fail to substantiate your claims.


    I am beginning to think of you as quite the hypocrite.
     
  20. Hiptastic

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    I didn't dodge the question, I said I misunderstood what you were referring to.
     

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