Humanity

Do you think its better to be a human or a animal or a insect or a sea creature?....Ive been thinking about the different types of life lately and iam beggining to think that the human is on the top class of things not only spiritually but realistically as well....But ive been asking myself would i rather be a human or a bird or a dog?....I know that animals have some type of hidden mind filled with secrets but are kept away from sharing them, or its a belief of mine...Never have i had such touching moments than with my dog...Lol....Please enlighten me.

 

Well as far as I can tell if you were an animal, you wouldn't have the capacity to ask yourself the type of question you just did. Is that what you want, no sense of self or introspection?

 

Consciousness. Our blessing and curse. I think you will find it trumps all other animal attributes.

Of course, your consciousness will be an intricate part of your evaluation of other and as PB is saying consider if you are not human, will you appreciate any attributes you have?

But again, the idea of secret, hidden worlds in animals minds is an intriguing idea I would like to hear more about. Who can know?

 

A sea creature would be awesome!
It's fun being me though.

 

I want to be this dog.

 

its much better to be a human, why would you want to regress to a lower evolutionary form?

 

all being is one, not eco-diversity but eco-unity

 

^are animals able to realize that?

 

Yes please

How is any form of life at a lower evolutionary form than another. All organisms are in the form they need to be in at the time or they will cease to exist. As far as I can see all organisms who are alive at this moment are in the highest evolutionary form that they need to be in. This includes plant life and even bacterial life.

 

We're all animals. We're just alot smarter than the other ones on the planet.

 

well by lower evolutionary form i meant less complex. i should have phrased that better. why would you want to be something less intelligent, less cognitively complex, have less capacity for abstract/ creative thinking, and more concerned with survival needs?


also, where is the evidence that animals have no sense of self???

 

but if you were that dog, you woudn't care about those boobies in the same way

 

So what's next after humans God?

 

are animals able to create and fire automatic weapons?

cognitive abilities are exactly as useful as a tail. it's just another appendage to the organism, another behavioural/phenotypic manifestation of information that defines the organism.

Intelligence is not the "goal" of evolution, nor any pristine jewel of accomplishment that we lucky humans have achieved. Thoughts are to your brain as bile is to your liver.

is God something that can be evolved to? through normal gene pathways? what are we even talking about, what is "god"?

 

Whats the point? Its obvious that it is only important for human survival, so why would I need that if I was not human. What is more important than survival and reproduction?

Agreed. some do, some do not.

 

I was just fucking with itsallgood, hehe. He said he thought he was God in the other thread. Don't get me wrong, he may very well be "God". You're right though, the term God is sketchy as fuck; words are limiting.

I'm kind of glad I don't have an answer for you. I enjoy this process of not knowing, it makes things really interesting.

I think fear is the only problem that needs to be solved...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtJzjc_ff78

 

I never made any assertion that evolution had a goal. Shouldn't intelligence be something we strive for? Animals know a lot less about the world, and are much more ignorant given their lesser cognitive ability. Intelligence allows us to do something most other animals cannot, use our minds to contemplate things which are beyond our survival needs. Humans possess more patience, less agitation, and more spiritual potential than all other animals i know of. Intelligence allows us to figure ways to eliminate suffering rather than spend our lives bound to impulse and primal instinct.

Without intelligence we wouldn't have lsd.

 

Eliminating suffering is more important. Are survival and reproduction the most important values to you in life???

 

How is that more important? Its a subjective short term goal. While survival and reproduction are a long term goals of all life.

Which sounds better? Being a human who may or may not have the ability to end its own and others suffering, or being a plant who dose not feel suffering in the first place.

 

yeah like someone else said, consciousness is a blessing and a curse, but still kicks ass. you have the freedom to do anything basically, just a matter of putting your mind to it. the power to choose your character (sounds like a video game haha), the power to innovate, the power to improve, to speculate, to admire. it's all spectacular!