hunting american style

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  1. shaman_stig

    shaman_stig Member

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    hey hey people just wondering if any one else has heard of anythink like this on there travels. when i was a wee lad at school we took a trip to america to wisconsin adn i stayed with a lad out there that had some strange ideas on hunting now im not anti hunting really i worked at a folconry centre over here for some time and have been hunting with air rifles quit a bit i always use what i catch and always use as much of the animal as posible i belive its a nattural to hunt my own food but in america i found they had very strange ideas about hunting and this lad i was stoping with his uncle had a bear licence as i belive few of these are given out a year and it entitles you to kill one bear so i imagined that they would go and look for the bear no they didnt they used to feed a bear every morning they would put food out for this creature and it would walk right into there back yard there plan was to wait till the bear season started and just sit on there proch waiting for the bear to come get its breakfast then blow its head of as it ate is this common practice out there
     
  2. Haid

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    No, and not only that it is illegal. You can not bait what you are hunting for so many days before the season(don't remember how long). I have heard of them baiting bears into an area on the day of the hunt with a small gut pile. I believe bears are the only animals this is allowed for though. Never went bear hunting myself, so.
     
  3. dusk

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    try showing some love and peace to the animals your hunting, i dont think your being forced to hunt because of hunger are you. killing animals for (sport )is cruel .
     
  4. shaman_stig

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    killing animals for sport is cruel but we evolved to be hunter gatherers i like my heritage it is how nature intended it that is why i hunt
     
  5. dusk

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    no, most of us have evolved past that, unless you live in a poor part of the world, were you need 2 kill for food, then you are killing for sport, talking about blowing a bears head off, and then saying peace and love, do you no how stupid you sound, try joining the army , o no ,in the army things shoot back at you, and thats not fair is it.
     
  6. icedteapriestess

    icedteapriestess linguistic freak

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    i would just like to say that I think that is the longest single sentence ever created in the English language! haha!

    No, that method of hunting is not common practise
     
  7. shaman_stig

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    if you read my post correctlyy i did not blow a bears head of that was a famly in amerca i stoped with and i was sickend by this method of hunting and we have not evolved past hunting technology has taken our heritage from us that heritage did not damge the enviroment and didnt wipe entire species of the face of the planet what weve "evolved" into has
     
  8. icedteapriestess

    icedteapriestess linguistic freak

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    Shaman, those of us who actually live surrounded by wildlife often realize that hunting is, a fact of life. Around here if someone doesn't hunt the deer then the farmers don't get crops, and the Dusk wouldn't get any bread to eat.

    While I don't drive around with my shotgun in my pickup (for I have neither a shotgun nor a pickup) I understand that people hunt. I can even say that while I would never to it personally, I have no real problem with it as long as the meat is eaten, and the hide and everything else is used for some purpose.

    Some people just can't wrap their heads around the fact that we've screwed the earth up sooo badly that hunting is now needed in many areas of the world.
     
  9. dusk

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    hunting in some part of the world may be needed,but is it needed in the us,no it is not.
    ps. read the name of this forum--pets and animals--and below that ,it reads, be kind to animals, and remember peace and love thats unless your looking down a gun ,
    and if farmers want to protect there crops it would not take much to put up a fence with a low elecrical current running through it, would it now.
     
  10. icedteapriestess

    icedteapriestess linguistic freak

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    lol... know many farmers? Big time farmers? Am talking single men who own 3600 acres of land?

    My dad is a farmer, and also a non violent man. He has never been hunting, and does not allow hunting on any of his 3600 acres of land. That being said, he is also a rational man and he realises that since the wolves were basically whipped out there is no real predator left for the deer, moose, and elk that enjoy eating his crops sooo much. My father has tried buying wolf urine to spray along the edges of his fields.... any idea how much wolf urine is needed to spray the diameter of 3600 acres of land???? It was costly, and uneffective. Fencing doesn't work when you need large access portals, and need to be able to drive machinery from one field to another in random order... there would need to be large access points everywhere... it wouldn't work.

    Look... no one is saying "yeah, lets go kill all the animals" or "animals suck". In fact, the thread was started out of semi-outrage in reaction to behaviour the OP recently saw at a bear hunt.

    But that being said, the issue isn't black and white. Hunters aren't all horrible people... in fact some really respect wildlife, which is how the OP sounds to me. Respectful.
     
  11. dusk

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    Point taken, but some one who quotes peace and love, should not be talking about killing, full stop.
    I will admit i read it wrong ,thinking he wanted to blow the bears head off, and then see,ing peace and love set me off.
     
  12. dusk

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    i am a vegitarian, but i am not a peta member.
     
  13. DeathRowDisco

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    Sure, hunting when you can just go to the store and buy meat, that's cruel and horrible and we should stop. But feeding ourselves/our kids the hormones that they pump into factory-farm animals these days? Oh, that's totally fine and American and good.
    I like wild meat because it tastes better and it's way healthier. I'd rather eat a wild moose steak than a store-bought T-bone that was fed chemicals all it's life, practically tortured on a farm, and nice-and-neatly packaged for me and my family.

    There's an ugly side to everything.
     
  14. lunarflowermaiden

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    Well, I see that people are getting annoyed with the comments against hunting, but you couldn't honestly expect people to keep their mouths shut about how they feel. I, personally, believe that humans were never meant to hunt in the first place. If evidence ever arises proving that we are equipped with carnivorus teeth (by carnivorus, I am not referring to the two measly, sharp top teeth in the front), nocturnal vision, and a faster running ability, I would change my mind. If there are areas that still, for whatever reason, depend on hunting, so be it. What I am wondering is that when it can be avoided, why do people continue to hunt? If there was no possible chance of survival without meat, I could see the point, but it truly is not necessary. I know that most people who hunt in America do it for sport, and don't try to tell me otherwise. Every person I know that hunts, which is many (I am from a mostly rural state) hunts for sport. Is destroying lives really worth the coats, hats, and heads above the fireplace? That is what I don't understand.

    Back to the OP, I have never heard of such a way of hunting, but it does sound very gruesome. That is not common practice here, but there are people who hunt way beyond the limit (an act which is supposed to be illegal) and, sadly, get away with it.
     
  15. Haid

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    We developed a high functioning brain and the ability to use tools for this purpose. It is well known that the extra protein in meat helped evolve our brains into what they are today. Besides that it is like buying broccoli at the store vs. growing a garden. You are disconnected with your food. I think everyone who eats meat should have to hunt once to connect with nature and where meat really comes from. Not to mention getting in touch with ancient insticts that a lot of people only feel during fear or sex.
     
  16. lunarflowermaiden

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    Haid, I understand and respect your opinion of the advancement of humans, but I disagree. I feel that humans have advanced beyond eating flesh. Growing a garden would be better than buying vegetables and fruit in a store, and for those who do eat meat, hunting is better than buying packaged meat. I am not arguing with you there. I am not trying to turn this conversation into a debate over food choices, but I honestly do think that it is pointless to do the unnecessary.

    Dark_Pitt, I have never needed a long neck or claws to pick and eat fruit and veggies.
     
  17. lunarflowermaiden

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    Excuse me for misreading your name, Dirk_Pitt. There is no need to snap at me.

    I don't think that you are understanding my reasoning. While humans can eat meat easily, they cannot hunt without tools or some form of an aid. I have never seen anyone walk out of the woods after chasing and eating a deer, bear, or even a squirrel. People who hunt for sport don't have much competition, as I do not see forest animals walking around with rifles.

    You are free to think as you wish, as am I. I am not trying to put people down who hunt, so there is no need to be defensive. I was just sharing my thoughts. If people are going to be snappy in this thread, I will go elsewhere. I thought that free speech was welcomed.
     
  18. lunarflowermaiden

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    I am sorry. It is hard to read people over the internet, you know :).
     
  19. dusk

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    love the way u think, dont ever change.
     
  20. freeinalaska

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    This reasoning tends to bother me. Is there anyone in the world that does not use some tool to produce and eat their food? Come on, those veggies you eat are not cultivated by hands only. Do you ever use a knife or fork to eat? Do you think that tofu and tempe you get at the heath food store is cultivated, harvested, processed, transported and cooked without tools. Every aspect of out lives use tools. Please be against hunting for whatever reason, but quit with the tool excuse.
     
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