I am woman and I am entitled.

Discussion in 'Men's Issues' started by IronGoth, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    [size=-1]Two points:
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    [size=-1]1) Imagine the arrogance of a man saying the same thing
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    [size=-1]2) You cheat, she gets your stuff. She cheats, she STILL gets your stuff.

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    Women Who Cheat Say They Enjoy the Thrills, Study Finds
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    [size=-1]Posted July 14, 2003 -- Virtually all of the adulterous women interviewed in a recent survey said they cheat because they deserve all of the pleasure and thrills associated with a secret affair. [/size]

    [size=-1]Ninety percent of the cheating wives said they suffered absolutely "no guilt" but felt "entitled" to the good feelings they got, according to Susan Shapiro Barash, a professor and author, who randomly interviewed 120 women from a diversity of professional backgrounds, ages and races for a recent book on the issue. [/size]

    [size=-1]She posted ads in YWCAs to find women who were sexually active, according the report on her study in The New York Post. [/size]

    [size=-1]She said her research reveals that six in ten women will cheat on their husband at least once during their marriages. [/size]

    [size=-1]"Women feel entitled because they're not getting what they need in marriage," said Barash, who wrote A Passion for More: Wives Reveal the Affairs that Make or Break their Marriages. "These women would recognize her need - her desire to have more in her life than she had in her marriage. "For the women who choose it, it's with great effort, so they really juggle the affair and somehow fit it in." [/size]

    [size=-1]Baltimore psychologist Shirley Glass agrees with Barash. [/size]

    [size=-1]"I don't see women feeling a lot of guilt," said Glass, in her recent book, Not Just Friends: Protect Your Relationship from Infidelity and Heal the Trauma of Betrayal . Women with careers and financial resources can take more risks, she added: "If their partners find out, they can take care of themselves." [/size]

    [size=-1]But Barash has her dissenters. "I have not witnessed a growing experience of 'entitlement.' Their conscience is bothering them," Kristen Harrington, a marriage counselor in upstate New York, told the Post . [/size]

    [size=-1]Glass also found surprising changes in men who mess around. [/size]

    [size=-1]She said that men's affairs tend to be almost exclusively about sex; they're usually just getting "a little on the side" with a female subordinate. [/size]

    [size=-1]"Now, men and women are working together as equals, with a lot of intellectual energy and common interests," Glass said. "It's a combination of emotional and sexual bonds. And it's more dangerous because it creates an alternative to the marriage, rather than just a supplement." [/size]

    [size=-1]Still, being equal in some ways hasn't erased the differences in why men and women cheat, some experts say. [/size]

    [size=-1]"Men have affairs to boost their self-esteem and because it's available. Their feelings are closely tied to their sexuality and potency," Brooklyn psychologist Marcella Bakur Weiner said. "Women don't just want a night of joy and pleasure. No matter what the feminists say, women want love. They want emotional attachment and bonding." [/size]
     
  2. Green

    Green Iconoclastic

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    Mmmk? Have any thoughts on this?
     
  3. David54

    David54 Member

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    Iron Goth, why do you talk about women more than you talk about being a man?
     
  4. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    I don't need to talk about being a man. I simply AM one.
     
  5. David54

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    So you're really just here to complain about women?
     
  6. IronGoth

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    Yeah, pretty much.
    SARCASM OFF


    No, but really, where do most of our problems come from?
     
  7. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    yourself and your poor choices?

    anyway, interesting article. women have affairs looking for love, men have affairs looking for sex. neither seeks to quit or feels particularly guilty about it. they're fucked up narcisissists. so...what does this have to do with anything?
     
  8. David54

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    RE : No, but really, where do most of our problems come from?

    You're way off base. Women are our allies. Where did WE come from?
     
  9. IronGoth

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    Obviously women. I forgot the men had nothing to do with it.
     
  10. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    so i guess by that logic, most of women's problems come from women, too. lol.
     
  11. David54

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    Yeah Goth. They wouldn't get too far without us either. That's what makes us good allies.
     
  12. IronGoth

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    Yeah, we do all the unpleasant and dangerous tasks - they get to decide if and when we get intimate with them.

    Can we trade?
     
  13. Green

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    The extre feminists (feminazis) still want more.
     
  14. IronGoth

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    It's like the equal pay debate.

    "WOMEN ONLY GET PAID 70% OF MEN!"

    Not so

    Factor out the fact that they take more time off work, choose less dangerous careers, stay in jobs less, pick jobs they like rather than what pay - and women typically get paid 100-150% of what the same men would earn, QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE.

    So now they want it so that you get paid as much to take time off and have kids, to take a job working 34h/week as someone working 50h a week doing something dangerous. Ain't it grand....
     
  15. interval_illusion

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    90 percent of women who have cheated have no guilt about it?

    sorry um after i read that, i had to wonder where that study was done from and i couldnt even continue reading because i cant believe it. cant.
     
  16. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    yeah. that's pretty much completely bull.
     
  17. IronGoth

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    *shrugs* these modern girls.
     
  18. Green

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    Girls feel bad about cheating when their boyfriend they cheated on buys them a $300 gift.
     
  19. IronGoth

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    Green - according to the article, 90% of em don't. They simply feel entitled to whatever they want no matter who it hurts.

    Keep in mind, this is 90% of CHEATERS not 90% of the adult female population.
     
  20. pabsy

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    woooah.... steady here.....( trying hard not to take the bait....f*ck it...)

    where to start... well as i cant speak for all society i'll start with my own experiences...

    Fact - More of my male colleagues take time out... sickies? nah... usualy they got too pissed up the night b4... or they just cant make friday coz they need to prepare for that golfing weekend... and stress?...now thats always a good one....

    Fact - Women can and DO carve a career AND have kids...often having to study at the same time so that they can return to their careers not having been left behind by technological advancement... something most men wouldnt be able to cope with.

    Fact - Qualifications and experience are NOT just a male thing. i'm as if not more qualified than most of my male colleagues.. i do longer hours and my salary reflects that.... I also have always been the main wage earner throughout my marriage AND i have brought up 2 kids..

    Fact - Yes.. women pick careers they like... men dont?... how sad... if you want to get up in the morning and work your balls off in a job you dont get any satisfaction out of then hey... just goes to show we women have more self worth.

    and your original question was....... ;)
     

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