i don't believe in God

I don't believe in God (i'm an atheist) and I don't believe in a heaven or hell or the devil. I don't believe in a greater power greater then yourself... I wasn't there back in time when all that stuff all of a sudden appeared when some god was born.. I wasn't there and I don't believe in a bunch of rumors that God is real and stuff. All throughout history people spoke of god's/goddesses such as: Hurculeas (however you spell his name), zues, Aphrodite and so on and so on. I mean their is no real evidence that God even existed... A man made bible people believe in and believe that tells everything. I don't believe in a god becaudse it's hard to believe in a so-called "god" making the earth and making everyone in it. Their must be some other way everything was created and I kind of believe that Science created everything in some way. I think people make up a God in their minds and just decide to dump all their sad thoughts and everything on God because their is nobody else to blame for them and they hope that by praying to God he'll help them... Ok if people say worship the "devil" then I guess all their prayers get answered by the devil because they believe in the devil. I wasn't their in the past so I don't know what happened... If I was actually there and experianced "god's" great power then I would believe in him but I've never seen a God and I have never seen any of his powers and seen him use them. So therefore I don't believe in him.

 

I certainly can't fault you for not beleiving in God, and I am certainly no fan of organized religion, but maybe you do see God at work everyday. Maybe you ARE God and the simple fact that you are able to think, reason, write and breathe is a testament to its (and your) power.

 

but how can i believe i'm God.. when i don't believe in a god... it doesn't add up in my head.. because to me their is no such thing.. so how can i believe in something that to me doesn't exist... it's like believing in something you have never heard of or saw before.. so in your mind it's a blank so in my mind their is a blank

 

I can't diagree with you at all. But, you have heard of God.. or we wouldn't be discussing it. No you haven't seen God... but have you seen gravity? Have you seen atoms? Do you beleive in them? Now I do realize that there is 'evidence' of these phenomena, but what is gravity? No one really knows... all we know is that there is this force that holds things together and we labeled it gravity.
Well we know there is a life force on this planet that reproduces, thinks, evolves, grows, and doesn't play by the rules that inert matter plays by. I just label this force God. The word itself is overly weighted I think, but put whatever word on it you want... life on earth is a miraculous web. When veiwed from afar we are one big organism feeding off itself and the sun. That's all I mean when I say God. Not a creator, not a father-figure, not a old man on a throne. Just the force that is behind life, because there is a force behind life... that you can see. That you can test.

PS: Do you beleive in UFO's? Do you beleive in ghosts? Do you beleive in ESP? All of these, I suggest, point to the possibility of God.

 

What do you believe in then? Or, is everything pretty much spelled out in terms of matter-of-fact to you? If, by your own admission however, you are a creature of belief, then that opens up the door of possibility that there is a God. Why? Because that tells us that man is religious by nature.

 

How can you put faith in science and not in the idea that God does exist...And how can you say well i wasnt here so i dont believe it...We werent here during the American Revolution but we know it happened. It is a fact that a Jesus walked on the earth...Furthermore...w/o the idea of Heaven what is the point of living. Everyone longs for somethin else...longs to know what awaits us. I believe in God. I am Saved. I also believe that with every lil seed planted god works. I dont undermind anyone for there on beliefs...and i think it is great that u can share your opinions...But have you ever thought "What if i am wrong???"

 

I don't believe in organized religon, or God persay. But I do believe that there is some sort of force or power or plane of existance that is above us. To believe that God did not create everything is very understandable, but to believe that all of this around you happened because of science is obserd. Evolution has been proved to a certain extent and carbon dating has proved the earth is older then the Bible says. But if you think of the probability of evolution to form man and for the Earth to be in exactly the right spot so gravity does not send us off in to space or crush our bones, I honestly don't know how you could say that is coincidence or good timing. Science can't explain everything.
Now I guess I can say I don't believe in God, but I believe there is something like God on a different plane of existance. I have some grievences sure: Why are we here?; What is the purpose for us? and so on.
I can't change your mind but at least listen to this.

If there turns out to be a God, the people who believe go to heaven.
If there isn't a God, then no loss.

 

It is not that easy. Believing doesnt ensure heaven. You must accept the lord as your savior.

 

If you were to believe in reincarnation, in soul-energy moving from one state of being to another, evolving as a mind-force just as species evolve as physical manifestations....then you may realise that along the way, there has to be a few older souls, perhaps a certain "Oldest Soul"?

That's what God would be, as the oldest soul it would be the wisest, and have more of a say, so to speak, as to the role and fate of the univerese.

Not the overall, after all he would look upon the youngers as friends and/or children, and thus the Universe!

A wonderful gift, for all sentient entities to be and exist within and to ultimately aid in the manifestation thereof.

No, God ain't a dude with a white beard, but I reckon if the Universe wanted/needed certain people - or representations around - they'd have them.

Just a thought

 

Says who? I've never seen this set in stone by God. The Bible we know is not 100% accurate. So where are you getting this info? Organized religon?

 

Phan (for short) I like what you are saying. I am pretty old compared the others in this thread, but I feel the way you do. My parents were athiests but my father used to discuss religion with my brother and I and I have always been interested in religion and spirituality.

Christianity just does not make sense and is not logical, sorry Megan, but there is too much evidence against your Christ being divine. You and others have been brainwashed by the church. You need to look into the history, ALL OF IT, to be able to determine that a person was a son of a god.

H.G. Wells said that religion is ancestor worship, in prehistorical tribes when the leader died they were afraid he would come back and punish them for doing things that he had made taboo. The leader was always the strongest fighter and hunter in the tribe, so his people were afraid of him. Christianity has this vision of an all powerful father who punishes those who ignore the taboos. Out of this came Juadism with it's war god who protected his chosen people and punished them for going astray.

I could go on all day. There may be a greater power, but if there is it seems as if it is a spoiled child who does not look after it's toys.

If Jesus had been killed twenty years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little electric chairs around their necks instead of crosses.
Lenny Bruce​

 

I think whatever you believe in is good for you at the time, never have fear.

 

grendel 44

Occam is also a 'late starter'
Dont worry my friend...

If we are not 10. We are late starters.
THAT is the potential of human beings.

We are what we are because of the FUCKED system that teaches us.
[late starters]
95% of all occam knows he got for himself.
Society wishes NONE to know too much.

This is the system we live in.

Occam

Are you a grendel from the SF novel ?

 

So you argue against your own divine ancestry? Interesting.

Yep, you have great understanding of God and the reasons that God causes war.

 

listen to this.....she knows what she is talking bout.....i agree fully

 

Aww, shit and shucks, people. Since when did existence have to have a point? And since when did existence not havin a point become a bad thing? I am filled with elation to know that we don't have a purpose, as it frees me to do whatever the hell I want! You know there is a god, I know that there isn't. I just don't happen to put complete faith in a book written thousands of years ago. An that goes fer all you religios peoples out there. I know what I experiance.

 

I completley agree

 

I'm an atheist too. I haven't found a religion that appeals to me.

 

I haven't found a religion that appeals to me either... but that doesn't make me an atheist. An atheist is someone who is CONVINCED there is no higher power. In my opinion this takes just as much (if not more) faith than saying that the Christian image of God is truth or the Islamic vision of God is truth.


I know only that we do not know. I am CONVINCED of that. Anyone who comes along and tells me THEY know (atheist or theist) is only showing how little they understand about how little they know.

Go with the flow... that much we know. Man has evolved as a reasoning, information gathering, questioning stack of inanimate dust rolled into a self-examining thing. If you don't see any magic in that then I feel sorry for you. Life is magic. Our view of reality is an illusion. Around it all is TRUTH, but we are far from prepared to understand it. So claim you KNOW if you wish... but it proves only how confused you must be.

 

I am not confused at all. And the reason you are is because you dunno God. God created everything and i have no doubt in my mind. God knows all and loves all.