I hate how people think acid is dangerous and will make you crazy

Whenever i tell people about acid and ask them if theyve done it, theyre all like DONT DO ACID MAN, ITLL FUCK YOU UP AND MAKE YOU CRAZY, which is totally false and most of those people think shrooms are totally fine. And i hate how lots of people believe all those myths about how shrooms make your stomach and brain bleed, most people i know think that, and its comletely pathetic

 

So what do you recomend?

 

What do you mean, what do i recommend? Im just saying how ridiculous it is that most of the population believes these myths, when really if everyone was to try them youd have a full blown revolution, or something at least close to that lol

 

mmtg those people are alienated to the LSD society lol

 

Yeah. And they tell me three tabs will make me "legally insane" and that I won't be able to get on a plane ever again because I'll start tripping balls and freak out and jump out.

What the hell?

 

I either just shake my head and walk away or try and educate them. Very few listen tho, the government has done a good job of giving acid a bad name.

 

Thats how i was thinking from november to March, after awhile i just let it go...Just go with the flow brother feel gifted, because i sure as fuck do :cheers2:...Something Big is going to come, humans have been on earth way too long for something not to happen, could either be bad or good...It is hard for me though when iam talking to someone who has not had a Psychedelic Experience or anything along them lines to not think about what their reality-is like, but iam getting used to it ....But it makes everything more fun,sometimes i feel like iam studying them haha like some sort of scientist

Whatever though its one of those i know something you dont know types of things. Except the something is magnificently beautiful.........:cheers2:

 

I tried being a educator too my friend....... but Oh Well

 

Someone in my town told me that it'll turn my into a hunchback cripple that will get flashbacks every time I crack my back.

Just say "prove it" and when they can't show them proof about the facts (all the people who have done LSD or documents on erowid).

 

Alright man, no disrespect to you but these things got to be said for the forum. All of us need to realize that it's only about 1% of the population that can handle these experiences or at least obtain quality realizations from them that promote our lives so that we can grow and cope with them. Most people just don't get it, and that's fine because they just are not supposed to get it at this time. On top of this it's only about 5% of the population that can take LSD and actually enjoy/respect the experience for what it is. But even this percent can be easily off-tracked by the weirdness or intensity of the experience and fail to see the deeper meaning behind ingesting LSD which is going beyond the LSD itself. Our forum is littered with this 5% and it's as if they are comparing tripping to some dreamworld fantasy land where they experience things "SOOO FAR OUT MAN!" and "Wicked Intense" that they don't realize you can transcend all of this and reach a higher state. So when I say they get caught up I'm saying they are missing a deeper aspect of the psychedelic experience. These stigmas are the way they are for some reason unbeknown to my puny brain, but remember for some reason they are.

YEAH MAN I AGREE, it's freakin annoying listening to all this bullshit, but remember man it's all just bullshit. Don't let it get the better of you man, or even your attention span. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY WE CAN STOP IT> what I mean by this is that the veil will be lifted when the veil wants to be lifted, NOT WHEN WE WANT IT TO. Sure I don't enjoy all the bullshit but I tell what, I deal with it too man. I go through the same shit, but the thing is, it's not shit when you don't deal with it. I used to care about all this but it doesn't matter. The reason I say we can't lift the veil is because even if you convince one person there is still about 95% of the rest of the population that still feels the same way. Don't get me wrong, if I have an oppurtunity I definitely take it but I'm not going out there trying to change the world or anything.

Oh and as for a "full blown revolution" as you put it, it just isn't too plausible. I mean think about it, we'll say about 5% uses LSD and only about 1% can understand that they can't understand it. If you gave even 50% of the population LSD they would just be lost in its weirdness and form all sorts of positions and notions about it as well as some very freaking weird shit, just weird shit man, cause LSD is pretty freaking weird to begin with. Don't get me wrong that's a reason a like it, but at the same time if your caught in the weird then your just caught. When your caught your bound, and when your bound your just not truly free man. Reflect on your own experiences with acid, Think of your views on it after your first time, think of your views on it before you first time, think of your views on it as you began using it, and think of your views on it now, and with all these thoughts tell me, What is LSD? We musn't get lost in our own worlds and realize LSD is a part of this world, the only world(we know) and use it accordingly. Use it to help yourself that you may help those around you by developing altruistic compassion. Let us also reflect on the role of shamanic substances in indigenous cultures all around the world and our history. Remember there were shamans, not everyone was shamans but there were shamans. The whole village wasn't "getting it" but the shaman was and he/she was there to help the people. Now think of LSD and it's role in our society, I mean doesn't it make sense that everyone isn't doing it. The Universe doens't want to just completely experience its true nature, that would be boring and dull, a primordial utopia of perfectness. There is no exciting experience in all that but there is exciting experience in our world.

I hope some of this helps and I just want to reiterate that this post is directed towards the whole forum and any LSD users and is nothing personal towards anyone. AND ALL CAPS and bold lettering definetely does not imply yelling or heavy tones what so ever, it is only there to stress the significance of the CAPITALIZED or Bold material as very important in its context. Any reference to "you" is directed as I just stated to the LSD forum and/or LSD users and is nothing personal.

I LOVE!!!

And just a side note to you Magical Mystery Tourguide: some time ago I presented a post extremely similar to this one stressing my feelings toward the subject you mentioned and was unavoidibly shot down by the community and now I really agree with what they helped me learn because now I better understand the situation as a whole. But all i'm really saying to you is that this is totally normal man, we all go through it and I still fall into it occasionally, less and less as time goes on...

 

and by educator i mean i went to alot of people i knew and started saying apocalytic stuff is going to be happenining in the near futre i even said that theirs going to be a huge conciousness shift in the near future...They all looked at me like iam crazy which i dont blame, i should have kept my mouth shut haha...Like i said though life goes on

 

I hate it how people think acid is totally safe and could not in any circumstance lead to long lasting disturbances

 

Yeah that would make sense as to why they would say "don't do acid". The truth of the matter(if you can call it that) is there isn't any proof of apocalypse or consciousness shifts in any future because the future is only a concept until it becomes the reality of HERE and NOW. "life goes on" - a very ZENesque statement that i'm so glad to hear many westerners adopt.

 

hey man my friend took lsd and ended up not sleeping for 3 days and believed he controlled the world and he was trying to make it a better place then he ended up in the hospital for 2 weeks and now is anti-psycotic medications ever since

 

First of all i want to thank you for taking the time to write all of that, i really do appreciate it.

I realize what i said was totally naiive, and now since youve explained it i totally understand what you mean, and once again thank you very much. But if you looked at the 60s, even most people werent turned on, and still most of the population looked down on the people who did as 'dirty hippies'. But obviously the 60s failed, and within 5 years everybody grew out of it and then you had the 80s. But think of what would have happened if the 60s never did fail, and they kept on going on, it just makes you wonder, you know?

I know you could never have the whole population turned on, not even 25 percent, but if you had something like the sixties happen again, but more succesfull and more mainstream, you have to wonder how amazing that would be and how much of a change that would bring up in our world today, the condition our world is in DEFINITELY needs major change like that, or at least something similar in my opinion.

I once again wanna thank you for taking the time to write that, it was a huge eye opener.

 

LSD can be dangerous and should be treated with much care and respect!!!!

 

well if we can take the 60's movement as an example: at first, everyone was having pure and mystical experiences with lsd. the doses were really high and they had certain literature to develop a spiritual mindset, and bad trips were virtually nonexistent, and the resulting shamanic personalities were not the rare exceptions. once it hit the mainstream and the media were portraying hippies in an incomplete and shallow way and all the kids wanted to be hippies thinking it was just about partying and innaccountability, then bad trips started occurring and they had to shrink doses, etc. Then the public attitude about lsd altered and it is that attitude that largely determines the nature of the trip.

I don't know, just speculation really. It seems impractical to have any reliable shamanic guide for lsd but now that mainstream media is much more multilateral, the public attitude about lsd could be changing. there's signs everywhere:

http://www.livescience.com/health/top_10_badthings_good-1.html

check out item #7

 

I lost my mind for a couple of months oh well, iam getting better, iam pretty sure i wont lose it again....And many people believe their is some type of global change that is going to occur in the future, but like you said their is no way to prove it to be sure, and i am one of those people that believe...The future is the future, i dont think its a concept, the future is a term given to the unkown, but events from the present effect the future, and such wonderful affects are occuring on earth..As we can all see today

 

what i always say is.

" so you heard acid makes you crazy? i bet you heard that from same people who say you can die on marijuana."

 

yes it is very dangerous. i am crazy..... in a good way