...it started getting too cold and too dark where I stay/live so mid-process using a variation (not too different) on Spicey's DMT recipe, I had to stop at the part where I need to siphon off the naphtha, also, I lost the time & went over by 45 min. when waiting on the lye/water/MHRB mix. Is a) the second thing going to fuck up my yield, and b) is waiting until the morning light comes in to finish going to fuck up my yield? Spicey, I know we've had our differences, but honestly, you probably know best where this is concerned. Here's me offering the laurel branch and asking for your help (if you get a shot to read this before long)..... if not, can anyone else answer those questions?
Yeah, but there are basically just recipes galore across the web, not specific answers to how long stuff can sit (and another problem I had was probably letting the naphtha too hot, who knows yet). Will report back when done! EDIT: Well, after a little trial & error, I figured an efficient way to pull the naphtha, & it appears to be the right piss color it should be, so I can only assume that I didn't fuck it up! AND, my pipette isn't broken, it just has difficulty siphoning up so little naphtha from so much water/lye/MHRB mud.
You didnt fuck up. The only risk you ran is having your pull be brown/red/burgundy which would have required additional procedures to eliminate the resultant plant fats/waxes/suspensions from the mix. Your pull will be fine; if there is a variation where you believe you have lost the pull, do not throw away the pull; seek additional help, it can be sorted out...
Thank you, now I'm having the strangest problem, one I've never, ever had in I don't know how many pulls I've done: The naphtha isn't separating from the STB mixture, no matter how much lye water I keep adding (I've added an additional 2 160ml quantities with about 50-75g of lye... grams, does that sound right, I'm not looking right at Spicey's recipe so I don't know offhand). Weird, huh? I don't know what to do to make the naphtha come to the top otherwise. Suggestions???
leave top lid ajar. set jar in stew pot of warm water. keep water warm by replacing with a new warm water bath periodically. If still no layers, set on washing machine or dryer while running to cause sustained vibrations for awhile. if still nothing add plenty of no additives non-iodized salt (will make water more polar and assist seperation). Still nothing, add more lye. These suggestions are straight off dmt nexus faq, this website is a dmt dedicated website rather than a token dmt forum on this far more diverse website. you may want to post questions over there... I believe spicey cat is referred to as "pandora" over there, if she is unavailable here.
I appreciate it Ancient One, what I ended up doing for better or for worse (since I didn't see this 'til now, and also 'cause life just had to go on ya know?) was let the whole mix sit for about three days until today when it had finally settled out into two separate layers. Also, I don't need to use the hot water heating method as I've got a magnetic stirrer with a heating mantle built in. That's safer here at this house than the stove since the stove is a gas stove and thus has an open flame when in use and also, the heating mantle produces zero sparks and heats from around 20 degrees Celsius to about 50 degrees Celsius in a matter of less than five minutes (and I use beakers made of borosilicate glass, so heat, corrosive material like strong acids or bases, etc. won't make them crack or break ever, ever, ever). Anyway, pipetted the remaining good stuff out after pull number four (the fourth being the pull that took three days to separate from the lye/H2O/MHRB mud), did the two hours of drying under a fan, replaced the mixture back to mason jar where it's been sitting in the freezer for 8 1/2 hrs. now. Should be good to fully evaporate come 7PM Sat., I can't wait!!!
My Extreme Q "Multi Purpose Hot Air Machine" aka vaporizer & my crazy-ass scientific "water pipe" otherwise described as being made of three interconnected parts--a glass stem reaching down into the water with a fitted glass bowl & a shallow basin for the water with a pinched-in section where the water level stops so that ice can be added atop the pinched glass, not get into the water, & thus freeze up the smoke upon intake--are all made of borosilicate glass (well with the vaporizer, just the glass parts, which even includes a potpouri/incense bowl). But aside from my mason jars, every piece of lab equipment I have from my beakers to my pipettes to my thermometer (that only reads in Celsius, which works perfectly since room temperature is about 20 degrees and when it hits 40 degrees, that's about 105 degrees Fahrenheit, the perfect temperature for the gentle shaking procedure) to my stirring rods to my filtration devices to my seperatory funnel, et al are all made from borosilicate glass. It's great stuff since I can like mix water and lye and heat up the naphtha all very fast, safely, and efficiently without worrying about anything breaking due to corrosion or heat while the magnet stirs the solution so fast a funnel develops and all lye blends with water in a few minutes (and boy does the water mixture get awfully hot very, very fast so not worrying about the beaker exploding is a luxury) and also without worrying about the naphtha catching fire and also within mere minutes getting it up to the right temperature to an exact science (literally, yet another luxury). I guess these are some of the basic alterations to Spicey Cat's recipe I've made, and it was a costly start-up, I won't lie, but the peace of mind in knowing that I'm being safer and getting things done much, much faster (unless I must wait like I did for three days for total seperation) is a totally worthwhile pay-off. I've been accused of being elitist for having all of this fancypants stuff to do kitchen chemistry with, but I can say that in all honesty, it has paid for itself. Out of 500g of MHRB, I did a STB pull four times from just 125g, the first three within a few hours, the last one yesterday, which was day four, and after evaporating the piss colored naphtha down by 50% and putting it in the freezer, within 8 1/2 hours I could already see over a gram and a half of nice white lumps freezing out of the naphtha, and this morning, after about 15 hours, it's now up to about two grams!!! This is my best yield yet, my patience paid off greatly. I also had a chance to test what stayed behind in the Pyrex baking dish after the evaporation and after the seperation into final mason jar (I actually made another change to her method and decanted the naphtha about four times so that not a single speck of black mud remained). Oh me oh my! I smoked a lump caked between a few thin layers of herb about the size of two and a half peas and had a good ten or so hits through the aforementioned bong that holds ice, and shit is this a damned fine batch! That spaced me out right after waking up around 9:30AM almost on the verge of a total breakthrough (about a +++ experience) complete with partial ego death & a good buzz that lasted a little bit over 20 minutes!!! It's been a total success, and tomorrow it'll be ready to filter, evaporate, dry, and set aside until my changa made of opium lettuce, spearmint, blue lotus, white lotus, sacred lotus, dream herb, and wild dagga infused with 5-MeO-DALT, & JWH's-081, 122, 203, 210, 250, & 251 arrives. THAT, now that is going to be some serious changa to enjoy the deem with considering all of the properties of those herbs/chemicals. I know it will be a very immersive experience! I may add some kratom to it, I haven't decided yet, but I'm very tempted to!
Well, good for you! I'm glad that those weeks spent enriching uranium to weapons grade has well equipped you for your new hobby...waste not, want not, and what not... Cheese, Grommit!....
LOL. Sorry cosmoknot I didn't check sooner. Feel free to PM questions and I'll do my best to answer quickly. Sounds like you got the answers you need. I've taken a really quick scan here, so if I missed anything, it's because I read to quickly. In general: Extra time does not ruin my extractions, though sometimes I've noticed a correlation between letting it sit longer (for example overnight) and yellower spice. I do not know if correlation is causation in this case. When layers are stubborn about separating, good tactics are to simply add more lye and/or more water. If emulusion appears to be a significant issue and it doesn't settle down over time, adding vibration can work wonders. Sounds silly, but touch it with a vibrator, put on a Harley seat, put on the washing machine.
Well, I finished batch one of five or six, and I think there is a correlation between letting it sit longer (in my case, three days) and the end product not turning out pure white. This first batch in many months turned out a good yield (I think I began with approx. 125g of MHRB) and I have a slightly yellow, but mostly off-white batch that's somewhere between 1 and 2g of good deem. 10 or 15 rips through my bong sent me skyrocketing the other morning, I woke up, and the first thing I did was sandwich about a marble sized ball squished between two layers of weed and went to town good fun. Too bizarre to explain in any sensible detail, it was one of those deem experiences though where the deem was "laughing in my face" if you know what I mean, hard to explain in any other way. Intimidating but fun nonetheless. I can actually see how vibration would assist with separating the layers. See, the issue I had with continuing to add the lye is that my food grade lye is beginning to run low and MUST last for the next four or five batches. I absolutely will never, ever use drain removal grade lye again. Fuck that shit. So I did add as much as possible, but eventually, I decided that since I have a surplus of naphtha, I'd just heat and add more of that until there was enough to plunge it out with my pipette. That worked, but it took three days to settle. So thank you Spicey, next time I'll put it on the washing machine (I don't happen to have any vibrators handy, lol). You actually did hit every major point. The one big sucky part was when I was filtering the naphtha through my ceramic filter thing into the beaker with its rubber stopper and the tube out the side where the hand pump air presses the liquid down to every last drop from the filter paper, well, while doing that, I don't know what happened, but I broke a key tiny part inside the pump mechanism which will cost about $30-$50 to replace (it's a worthwhile thing to own, it may be fancy, but you certainly get every last scrap separated after you remove it from the freezer 48 hrs. later and pump it into that funnel). Otherwise, though, it all worked out quite well! Again, thank you for the assistance here, it *will* come in handy in a week or so
