If God Is A Contradiction Then He Does Not Exist

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by relaxxx, May 2, 2014.

  1. AiryFox

    AiryFox Member

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    Projection?

    Hardly.

    If that was the case, everyone else would have verifiable evidence to share with the rest of us.

    Since they do not, their delusion is just as real as mine was in thinking that god actually exists.
     
  2. Menezes1337

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    Science axiom, nothing comes out of nothing.
    Regardless how much you go back to something, if there is no being such as 'God', which is the Α & Ω (Was always there, will always be), you'd never have a logical explanation for anything.
    Oh, and that means believing in Big bang, evolution, etc...
     
  3. Menezes1337

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    I suggest some reading, try 'When the impossible happens - Stanislav Grof'.
    You'd start doubting science a little bit more, other than God.
     
  4. guerillabedlam

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    Science has no qualms with emergence, that is higher complexity arising out of lower complexity.
     
  5. OddApple

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    Hardly. You have left out everyone who did not wish to bevdemanded by some insignificant pinhead to say anything. You just can't face the fact that even if they did, it still would not be anything but you, speaking about you. Since you use childish tactics and demand it's true, that kinda puts you on the further end of the delusion board it seems. Just sayin.
     
  6. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    Actually there are many books written by Stanslav Grof that has verifiable evidence that the non-physical exists. If the non-physical exists than obviously an absolute entity must exist.

    Dr. Grof has thousands of case histories that get into all kinds of areas that have been verified by various experts and people other than Dr. Grof. Just before coming to America (thereby expanding his research) he had somewhere around two or three thousand case histories.

    Then there is the work of William Tiller, Ph.D., Walter E. Dibble, Jr., Ph.D., and Michael J. Kohane, Ph.D. who have developed a series of experiments that have been independently verified to consistently show that human intention can definitely influence physical reality. (For example, see their book, 'Conscious Act of Creation, The emergence of a new physics,' which not only provides the results, but also the specific details of the experiment so that any researcher could recreate it.) No atheist has ever provided me with a sufficient explanation of how they achieved the results they have.
     
  7. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    OddApple is right---it is projection, because all you have is your own subjective experience. You think that everyone has nothing more than the illusions that you had. My moment of truth was not a vision, it was not a hallucination, nor was it even an illusion. It happened in such a way that no matter how hard I tried to rationalize it, or disprove it, I was unable to. And what's more, I was left with a physical proof of what happened. From that point on, there was no way I could rationally go back. There was no rational way of denial.

    But you are very vocal---as if you are trying to proselytize everyone to your dogmatic beliefs (yes it is dogma because it is based on the fallacy I explained earlier---was it in this thread, or your other one?). There are a lot of fanatical Christians that act that way. Do you know what usually drives a Christian to fanaticism?

    They are dealing with repressed doubts of their own faith. They are especially crazy about their faith, and wanting everyone to be Christian. The former actions are intended to convince themselves that they do not have doubts, and the latter desires are based on a rationalization that the more people that are Christian, the more true Christianity is, i.e. the more invalid are their repressed doubts. They don't realize this of course, and if you were to bring it up---they would be very defensive, and would deny it.

    So what are you trying to prove? Are you dealing with your own repressed doubts? After all, in your other thread---did you not want to cleanse the world of religion?

    ...But here is the fallacy of such rationality---if you cleanse the world of religion, you would not have really dealt with the doubts----because they are not out there---they are within you. The rationalization would have failed because the doubts would still be there. but then again, you would never truly cleanse the world of religion, just as fanatical Christians will never cleanse the world of heretics, atheists and heathens. So the game continues, the doubts live on, and the shadow of the psyche continues to express itself.
     
  8. OddApple

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    And dude, I ain't sayin' you are wrong, stupid or suck. No man regards another who says "oh delusions are so much more fun I just do them because I can" or any intentional falseness & etc.
    Where you are is where you've made it to and best to let ya be and perceive all that you have around and before you. I did not want to say "Well I'm righter than you cause you're stoopid" at all.
    People attempting to be honest is a rare treasure we are sometimes able to honor each other with.
     
  9. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    One ALL GOOD.
    Yeah clearly,
    NOT.
     
  10. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    He has verifiable evidence? I'm sure it must be scientific gold. Someone get James Randi on the phone quick.
     
  11. OddApple

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    Oh. So you are righter because everyone is stoopid. Gotcha.

    The smoke screen of bile maketh a poor parachute - and dinner guest as well.

    What makes you think a G-d would owe a talking monkey any evidence whatsoever? Even tho many say it abounds, whether or not it satisfies human demands. I guess I am saying it seems counter productive to talk to a soul or G-d with that mouth and expect any answer?
     
  12. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Yeah, because when I think credible people, I instantly think LSD spiritualists.

    I can just imagine the SCIENTIFIC experiment;
    -Dude, I'm tripping my balls off!
    -I am also tripping my balls right off my body...
    -CONFIRMATION!!!!

    Speaking of smoke screen bile, thanks for contributing such works of insight like this one;

    AHHHHH HA HA HA HAAAAAA!
    BLUHHHH HEE HEE HUUUHH!

    ASSHOLE!
     
  13. OddApple

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    You def win the poorest loser award. Great beliefs too. L8R ~
     
  14. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    I don't have great beliefs,
    I have realistic probabilities.
     
  15. AiryFox

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    relaxxx, you are amazing.
     
  16. thedope

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    Faith is necessary for the formation of perception at any point. We always choose with a guide we trust or trust more than less and consciousness itself is essentially for finding direction. The question of god is an authority problem, and centers on our own right being in the world We might choose god in regards to understanding our relationship with the processes of creation. We might choose god as a broader appeal for certainty in life. We might look for a better way or higher authority finding our own learning at some point suspect. We might be looking for a less brute way to settle disputes among men or in a smaller minded way we might be looking for advantage over our enemies. I could be the conclusion you come to when someone asks what you want to be when you grow up.



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    I can't finish that sentence because it is not a sentence I would start. There are two words that are synonymous in the practice of any statement when substituted for the word god and they are good and real. I come more to the opinion that reality is secure and fear is a liar and this informs my reasonable responses to what I see and hear and so I demonstrate the peace of god or clear mindedness as mind heedless of anxiety is patient for the truth. Anxiety is caused by the misapprehension of what is so and is a sign that more information is needed.
     
  17. thedope

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    This is not a point. How was reality impacted, hers or anyone else's? She cannot agree and mortality is 100 percent. Reality is not at war with itself but you can certainly view something else by distorting proportions. There is no author of death it coming in a myriad of forms and times. Accusation is a temper tantrum about the seeming frailty of our own lives and assigns no correct proportions.
     
  18. OddApple

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    You have little but air and attitude. Your probabilities are no better than any believer person's, but you think having some fit fools anyone or makes it so. In a thing that is neither win/lose, you still manage to come out on bottom.
     
  19. AiryFox

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    That is an erroneous statement.

    Those whom prefer make-believe, religion, over reality will always be at the most disadvantage in the world.
     
  20. OddApple

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    Then how come you have to kiss muslim butt under the command of another religion you are the total, do whatever they want slave of? What is make-believe is that the "reality" people are living in it.
     

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