If humans Evolved from Monkeys

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  1. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Humans didn't evolve from monkeys, as others have said.

    Evolution didn't go dinosaur-bird-monkey-man.

    Evolution is a species biologically changing to meet changing conditions. We are unquestionably changing. Look at the Hispnic population for an example. Only in the 1500's did the Spanish people begin to immigrate to latin america.

    Rather then die out, most of the native population mixed in with the spanish population to give what we would consider hispanic now today. There are dozens of examples of modern evolution. Evolution doesn't happen over a period of lifetimes in a very noticable pattern, but over a few generations, it becomes more noticable.

    There are species which don't evolve as much anymore, crocodiles and some insects. But even they still evolve.

    We're evolving much faster. In regards to fat tony, I would argue that social evolutions count as a whole of part of our evolution.

    Not getting rid of people who would die out naturally, might not be as much of a sign of a slowing down of our evolution, but rather the fact that we can bring them along our evolution with us, so we do, and this empathy might be part of this evolution as a whole.
     
  2. cousinit

    cousinit Member

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    that was been prooven false long time ago. true they can make do with less than most people. but the raw seal fat they eat, (a staple food them back in the day) contains vitamin C
     
  3. Crazy_P

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    It is interesting to think about how technology influences evolution. For example, house pets are evolutionary dead-ends, because their environment is tailored to their needs, instead of them having to adapt to their surroundings.
     
  4. Columbo

    Columbo Senior Member

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    then prove it to us
     
  5. pctec

    pctec Member

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    As are humans!
     
  6. Airfern1313

    Airfern1313 Member

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    Because it takes so long that you will never see an example of it over your lifetime. (its still happening)
     
  7. tigerlily

    tigerlily proud mama

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    humans are bipedal, and we are intelligent. we learn new things, we don't NEED to "evolve" physically because we just invent whatever we need to survive. we make our own fur, food, shelter, we don't need to compete with other animals, we are the top of the food chain.

    how many of you have had your wisdom teeth pulled? we would have evolved out of those wisdom teeth if we didn't have dentists, because they don't fit in our mouths and can cause a lot of problems... (for the most part, some ppl have teeth that all fit, or don't have all their wisdom teeth, i have three and never got the fourth one) if we dind't have a way to take care of those teeth, the humans who didn't have wisdom teeth naturally would have survived, and those with wisdom teeth would have died young and not reproduced more wisdom-teeth-having children. that's how evolution works, btw. the bad traits die out because those who can't compete die without reproducing, and those with the more productive traits live longer and reproduce more and pass on those genes.

    and neanderthals had much bigger brains than us... they were also built thicker and had larger bodies. bigger brain doesn't always mean smarter.
     
  8. tigerlily

    tigerlily proud mama

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    oh and we did not evolve from monkeys. we have simliar ancestors to apes, not monkeys. monkeys were way more efficient than apes AND early humans, so humans used their bipedalism (which is unique to us, and only us... chimps sometimes walk on two legs but they wobble) to leave the forest and find other food. apes evolved their diet to eat only leaves so they had no competition with the fruit eating monkeys.

    i can go on if you want... i just took physical anthropology this summer.
     
  9. HonorSeed

    HonorSeed Senior Member

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    Where are my hipwaders when I need them?
     
  10. Jonsey_Babe

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    how do you know we aren't still evolving from monkeys
     
  11. HonorSeed

    HonorSeed Senior Member

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    hey maybe monkies are evolving from us
     
  12. SpaceTrippin

    SpaceTrippin Banned

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    Darwin is full of crap. We never evolved from apes or monkeys. During our evolution we resembled them at one point in time, but we were never them! We were a seperate species all the way back to the beginning when we crawled out of the ooze. We would have resembled many creatures during our evolution, but that does not mean we were ever that creature!

    Look at the human embryo during it's developement. It doesn't resemble a human being at certain stages. At one time it resembles a tadpole, fish, a pig, and it was never a fish or a pig. It always was and is a human.

    So thats how the big picture of the beginning of mankind started also, but without the human womb. I guess you can say it was mother earths womb that started us.
    I don't believe that we evolved from apes. I believe in evolution the way I explained it here.
     
  13. Snyfin

    Snyfin surfing the astral plane

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    We have no need to evolve. If we we in another Ice Age, we may grow more hair, but since most of us are in good settings, we have no reason to change for nothing. Evolving goes in accordance with what's around us and what's around us isn't really harming us.

    Except, we could use bigger brains...
     
  14. HonorSeed

    HonorSeed Senior Member

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    I have a bigger head, hence a bigger brain, so did Webster. Baseball caps are made to small.
     
  15. Radiation

    Radiation Ruling the Nation

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    :eek:

    You have smoked yourself retarded.
     
  16. Columbo

    Columbo Senior Member

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    Well after spending some time here I am beginning to wonder if its just this forum that attracts all us baboons.
    Seriously, has the point not occured to you that at the height of a persons life (during their 20's) everyone can say "wow, the whole evolution of mankind is in me - I am the height of evolution within my family)
    Well unless you are George Bush or Prince charles in which case you would say "oooh hu hu hooowoo wheeewa" and other chimp-like sounds.
    You have direct evidence of evolution - go to any science website that deals in microbiology and search out evolution amongst microbial life and you will see that the common cold bacteria evolve so fast a cure cannot be found.
    there are thousands of examples.
    Also it is a fact that during the 17th century your adult ancestors would on average have stood at a little over 4.5 feet high (1.3M approx) about the size of todays 12 year old (if they live in the richer countries) People will say thats all to do with diet and hygeine but that all a factor of evolution, plus its not all a one way process - some animals for example left the sea
    walked on land then after 20million years their kind had evolved and gone back to the sea
    evolution simply equals "mutation of a species over time"
    you, yourself, are simply the product of gene mutation
     
  17. yonosoymedico

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    Yeah, our brain cc has been declining since homo neandethalensis(neanderthals)...and esp when I look at birth rates, unnatural births(where the child or mother would have been lost otherwise), new mating methods(internet, global travel) we indeed have created a new set of evolutionary standards for the stage we live on.... in some cases its all about fitness(i.e. the ability to reproduce) but in others its what keeps you alive, kills you prematurely or changes your environment(travel, catastrophy, or the levee's breakin') that makes you live in a new environment...
    whatever
     
  18. yonosoymedico

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    found some random articles on msn incase anyone is too lazy to search.. i havent even read them... but feel free to search on whatever searchengine you prefer, its easy..and may end the stupidity of this debate and move it further forward... possibly involving the possibility of extraterrestrial origins of mankind, as these sites suggest:
    http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/The_Dawn_of_the_Genesis_Race.html
    http://www.tortona.net/message/eng/engmain.htm
    http://www.fixedearth.com/nasas_agenda.htm

    *other sites referring to the original topics:

    http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_047.html

    http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18925421.300&feedId=human-evolution_rss20

    http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18925422.700&feedId=human-evolution_rss20

    lemme know what you think...
     
  19. nobhdy

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    grrr. i hate arguing with the uninformed, but as it turns out, we humans and monkeys, like cats and dogs, evolved from a common ancestor. the monkeys went one way, and humans went the other, we just came out on top.

    so the term "humans evolved from monkeys" is misleading and thought up by someone who thought he was smart, but really was kinda ignorant.
     
  20. nobhdy

    nobhdy Member

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    and we are still evolving. if you took a human from modern times and put him in a time machine set to the very beginnings of civilization, you would find that the modern human, when compared to the ancient human, is taller, has a bigger nose and ears, and has a slightly more complex brain.


    and nowadays, human evolution isnt spurred by natural selection, like in times past, but sexual selection, thanx to the luxury of not needing to fight for survival.
     

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