I'll ask the elders

Yeah maybe you guys and gals know a good route in this situation. I'll keep it as short and sweet as the situation allows

I hang with my group of friends 3-4 times a week, depending on when they and I work. We've always been into drinking some beers, smoking a joint, playing some pong and enjoying tons and tons of good tunes.

Recently, one of my friends moved across town right next door to a GENEROUS coke fiend. I know, it would seem hard to find, but there you have it. Now 5-7 years ago, me and this friend made a pact...we would never do synthetic drugs unless its name was acid. No coke, no crack, no heroin, no meth, nothing.

He's begun to do coke at an alarming rate. Taking a sniff of it every 20-30 minutes when he's over there, over the last week or so. Its kind of that 'thing' that no one talks about due to that awkward energy. He even puts on top of bowls of weed and ruins the smoke for me because I WILL NOT smoke a bowl with coke residue. I'm not okay with him doing coke because of how he acts on the substance. Two seconds after he mixes alcohol into the situation he gets all irate and starts accusing me of things, he begins to take his pride way to seriously and it really bugs me. It bugs me because I have done acid with him numerous times and I thought he had moved past all of that masculine bull-shit.

He keeps trying to get me to snort some but he doesn't understand that I wont do it under any circumstance or justification. I've tried talking to him about it but its obvious that it will only go one way, violent. I don't do violence. That's the pretense of the matter, here's the question.


Would it be better to just stop talking to him? Just let my phone ring and ring until he stops calling? And what if he comes over to my house? Should I just not answer the door? Evil confusion.

Any help is appreciated! :2thumbsup:

 

TTough situation man I mean he's a good friend, right ?
Speaking from expeience - when you're doing coke you have only one best friend-COKE - everybody else is an acquatance. More specifically, coke is your lover. What she wants trumps all else. No reason is involved.
You've got to back away - it is a losing battle. When he runs out of money, and he will, yo will get him back - til then, back away as far as possible. Good luck man.

 

Yeah he was at one time my best friend. I'll take the low road for now. Sounds like a good plan anyway.

 

Dorights got it. Time to say so long old pal. Thats a bad trip with lots of evil energy. He needs to go that road alone. Maybe if you ever catch him when he's not coked up and has some semblance of the friend he used to be you could tell him why you're splitting. Won't do shit for right now but if he ever gets his head back straight he might remember what was once there. Walk away clean and don't look back. Best of luck to both of you.

 

Much appreciated. Much

 

:iagree:

Hopefully he'll snap out of it like I did.

It was fun at first, but it got bad later. I regretted the things I was doing at the end. That's one of the reasons I quit.

Good luck to you both.

 

i can't add much of anything to the disscusion.
the only thing i will add is this; see the movie "basketball daires."
sounds like he is on the same road as in the movie... don't let him drag you down with him.

 

I will not even play with you....that is his favorite movie.

It seems some men even idolize self destruction. I'm gonna stay away from him. I'll find some new friends somewhere. Not even a big deal.

 

sorry that this is going on.

I would like to imagine that there is some way you could help him pull out of this, but I think the truth is that it is already too late

 

A good relationship deserves (a try at) a good ending. Tell him why you're splitting - you can be his first loss behind the cocaine. If you think he might be violent you owe him nothing.

I don't see a good end to his scene.

 

When the young reach out to the old it honors us, so that too is much appreciated. You are at a classic crossroads in life. Much of how you handle this will determine your future well being. These are the kind of defining moments that separate men from boys. I wish you the best.

 

Good course of action as there has been some great advice already given. Your friend has to understand that his decision comes with a very steep price.

 

the stuff supposedly was a big part of the downfall of jerry garcia. i had a friend go down with the coke spoon, myself. sad to watch. i made the right but hard choice....told her 'don't come over here high any more...'. she eventually wound up in a trailer in new mexico with no toilet, no water...had to haul water from a creek by bucket...heard nothing after that last. had 3 of the cutest red haired children you ever saw.....bummer.

hang in there. sometimes the best thing to do is to stay out of things...really, that is one of the first choices to consider in a lot of matters.

 

The thing with coke is that it is an ego booster and you can almost never tell a coke head there is anything wrong with it.

 

It was indeed a big part of Jerry's downfall and not only that it was the main cause of the downfall of the Haight as I saw it and I was there watching friends and neighbors crash and burn one after another.

 

if he has all this coke and no hookers,,, Im just wondering ... Is he gay?.. Not theres anything wrong with that.. just coke and dudes, all the time, is kinda gay...

 

No he's definitely not gay. Slept with a stripper from the club up the street from his house. I know this for a fact. She was like 30 and had a kid. Dirty in every sense of the word. He admitted to me after they had 'separated' that he only dealt with her crap so he could get laid. I never stopped giving him shit for that. He even bought the kid a happy meal.

Hes the guy who calls the cute chick over from his work while your un aware. Then takes her into the next room as soon as she arrives and bangs her regardless of whether your the only other one there or not. Which is no big deal but you can only watch so many re-runs of fresh prince while half drunk and be tolerant to your surroundings. After that you just kind of wander off and he calls you the next morning asking you 'Dude what happened, you just took off'

He has a huge ego man, he wants more pussy, more alcohol and more reputation. He describes himself as a 'peaceful satanic'. I swear I'm not trolling. Hes off his rocker to be sure, hes just been my friend for awhile. He mainly gets his respect because of his skateboarding ability. The guy is talented, and that's how he appeals to people, otherwise there is just nothing there. I guess its just that time to disconnect. Trip by myself a few times and find some new friends. He hasn't even been that good of a friend anyways.

 

Congratulations you have now figured out the main reason I avoid coke like the fucking plague. It really makes people into Self-important, Egomaniacal assholes. I had an uncle who did a year for dealing, and 2 more who were hooked. Even the uncle who was dealing was addicted to the money that was coming in and all of the toys he bought with that money.

Stay Brown,
Rev J

 

+1 What he said.

 

I'm not an elder, but honestly cocaine can be a fucked up substance and it can change a person. You should say almost exactly what you said here, but to him. Try to get him thinking, make him realise what he's doing to himself. Get him to come over and chill for a night, smoke a few bowls and maybe drop some acid for old time sakes. Try your hardest to pull him out of the yay, don't abandon him until you don't have a choice. Just think what his life could turn into from coke - you're capable of changing that.