I'm suprised I don't see more threads abotu this kramer thing

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QgmCBKPHnSY

your thoughts?

 

a freind in japan showed me that an hour ago..thats just like so fucked up
especialy with that great big laugh behind it like we should think thats funny...

 

that guy is an asshole, I had the misfortune of being around him back in my LA days

clearly insane, and clearly out of line

 

wait like... did you actually know him?

cause you could probably give an interesting take on if what he said shows that he's racist or not

I think that what he said was pretty fucked up, but not racist, as it was focussed on those specific people

I also think it's complete hypocritical bullshit that they used "white boy" as a derogatory term right after getting so fired up by the word '******'

 

Wow, that really is insane.

 

That shit is fukt up. I still love his character on seinfeld, but I don't like the actor anymore.

You know what I think is odd?.....the fact that they edit out the F-word but not the N-word, which is far worse than the F-word. I have always found that to be very strange.

 

they are just words man

 

well people get pissed off and they retaliate, so I don't blame the black guy for coming back at him. the use of the word N____ reinforces inequality and racism, things we need to be working to get past, not yelling in a public place, it was uncalled for.

I can't tell you if he is a racist or not, but once I was leaning against a wall with my back towards the direction he was coming from, he slammed his hip into mine, then looked back and glared like he wanted to fight me

another time he was going way over the top in the fight scene on his crappy cancelled show, and threw a chair about 1 inch from my head, then my friend was in a scene where he was playing a chef behind one of those little windows where the food comes up, and Kramer kept jumping through there and flailing all over my friend each take when there was no reason too

then

he stormed off set leaving about 40 extras/actors, a full crew, and all of the directors and producers to wait for 3 hours, burning hundreds of thousands of dollars, while he at first yelled at network exec looking people, and then left with them.

he's a complete asshole

 

i saw the clip....but i'm not going to come ot any conclusions about it - plus its at a comedy club - i've seen and heard some pretty bad things watching comedians

 

Nah man. "Fuck" is just a word. "******" is not JUST a word; it is a very evil word that is used to insult people for no reason. I just think it's fucked up that society sees the need to censor words like "fuck" and "shit", but "******" draws no censorship. It's bass ackwards man.

 

you say that ''******' draws no censorship', but this guy's career isn't fucked over the word 'fuck'

it's bullshit that '******' is evil but 'cracker' 'honkey' 'chink' 'spic' wouldn't draw up shit for controversy

stop discriminating.

 

you don't think if he would have yelled "chink" at an asian person there would be controversy?

you are wrong

and you seem to be hung up on this issue, I've read you talking about it before.

its funny, I don't go around calling people racist names, and consequently I have no racial problems with anyone. How about yourself?

 

I have honestly lost any respect that I had for that man. I never realized the person he really was...they're so good at portraying certain images to the public, until they slip up like he did. *shakes head*

 

i want to see what forced him over the edge..the hecklers too

of course if its Richord Pry or Dave Chapelle doing this its funny.

 

bullshit

Mel Gibson caused controversy cause he freaked and said anti-semetic shit, and the media is largely jewish
this thing with Kramer is causing so much because we have this whole liberal guilt thing going on about the slavery

we nearly wiped out the indians, yet we have the Redskins, if a team from the south wanted to use 'the lynchers' there would be so much controversy

and what about what happened to the Chinese when we built the railroads?

or how much shit the Irish immigrants went through?

it's ridiculous

 

I don't like any of those words either. They are all said with the same intentions.......to insult someone simply because of the color of his/her skin. It's discraceful. The man in the video shouldn't have call michael richards a whiteboy or a cracker. Both of the guys were wrong in what they said.

 

I know, they had to pull a Rodney King and start it at the reaction, and not include the stimuli

I mean, it's basically a given that he overreacted, but I would like to know just how much

 

yea, i want to see the whole video of what happened, not just him flipping out.

 

It's part of their act and they are equal opportunity about it.....meaning they make fun of their own race too. It's different when someone intends to insult someone, as opposed to just making a joke. Either way, I can't stand racial slurs.

 

yah the audience called him a cracker ass. we should be up in arms about that just as much as what he said.

playing devils advocate