theres no languages no words no countries, no bounds no set point yet it goes on be wary of rabbis who go on and on about these things as if they matter, what true rabbi could not see everything as God know that Israel, like the Tree of Life itself is verily everywhere, in all beings, they just want to cause trouble and protect 'their properties' from those wanderers who would come there with a true feeling of God which would dispel the lame illusion they have divided us all falsely, and bring war against them who see truth, what is the meaning of this? look to your heart where the true torah resides have no fear, because Love is still rocking it true happiness comes when we no longer fear death what is the temple if it is not open to all?
Where is the sanction in the Written or Oral Torahs for there not being now- or ever again- a nation of Israel? Where do you get the sanction to claim so? As far as "no languages no words" I don't know what you mean. As far as "no set point", I take God in Judaism to be the set point; so if you say there is no set point, then are saying God doesn't exist?
I didnt say there was no nation of Israel, but I would actually agree with that, I'd say Israel is not nation implying government and outward rule and organization, but Land, even a state of mind that is more about inner cultivation and fruition and the harmony of the inner being which naturally brings forth the goodness of the outer world like a heart beat deep inside the earth which causes the plants to sprout and flower even far away, a way of being and it is everywhere, in truth, and especially in the hearts of the Jewish people and perpetuated by their moral doings in the spirit of God. no languages no words, I mean do not be bound by the words so simply, because the heart speaks as well and the heart is the first purest origin of the words, it is the heart which knows God, the words are only seeds, their true essence is hidden to most, who only look with their minds, its hard to explain. But the Torah is not what it seems but an intense riddle and test, llike the ultimate of koans if you are into zen at all. Only those purest of heart can really grasp its meaning. as for saying God doesn't exist, far from it, I am saying Adonai is everything, the miraculous plant (for lack of a better word) from the beginning who is all things, of which all of us all living things are the leaves and seeds, in divine processes! there is no set point, existence is for sheer love of existence, the point is to share love and spread love, and enjoy as much as possible, regarding all beings as one does their own self, this is where nations make it difficult and the idea of property which I am speaking against, this is a division which only causes selfishness, its not in the true spirit of the Holy land, which again is not something that is so much based in science and the reasoning critical mind and all this, but is really a miraculous place or plane, that embodies the compassion and blessing of God, All that is. sorry if any of this is hard to understand I/we (wife and I) are trying to hone our ability to convey really exactly what we mean, its difficult, but it will be worthwhile in the end, and at the same time we definitely don't know everything and we are open to other perspectives we're here to learn and teach, and share love SHALOM!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks. I assume you are Jewish. But the statement you made- "Adonai is everything"- is Hindu/Vedic(thou are That/tat vam asi)- although its more complicated(in the Vedas) than that. You said that "the Torah is not what it seems but an intense riddle and test". Do you mean that the test and the riddle are about our really being Adonai?
i feel i am jewish, but i am not technically, at least physically descended from a jewish family... maybe mystically, i've always just felt different, maybe we're just spiritual people, we're from wanti... its hard to explain, it sounds strange, but just as much judaism feels natural in some ways, the energy of God... maybe i am wrong and have total misunderstanding, but I was interested in mysticism of all kinds, I don't think specific traditions matter so much all of it is one in life, its a part of life a part of the total experience, we perceive them all for a reason, and at the root they are all one is my belief. Everything is God, that was one of the most memorable lines from a book, Introduction to Jewish Mysticism by Perle Epstein, it just always stuck with me, even before the torah, that book was my first introduction to the tradition, maybe that was foolish, but I was just seeking, pretty young and I had ideas like this anyways, but I talked about it in terms of love at that point, but God is Love, and Love is the truth, and thats beautiful in the end all words are the torah, words seem to live on their own sometimes... but its true, love, i feel outside theres many judgements i am this or that, never am i really understood, but love, god always understands, i had a vision of being back home everyone was there too, and it was here, it was beautiful but it falls apart here, the love, the endless love overspilling from tradition to tradition which is askance from all words and yet a part of them, the divine truth which is in everything i casted some people aside i was angry, because i didn't understand none of it made sense, i ended up offending some people, they didn't understand is it so radical that ways can be together, that there is no difference, no i don't think so, there can't be any fear if what the radicals preach is simply love and thats it what is so radical there? it is the divisions i don't understand i heard once in the synagogue that the jews are a moral people and it is the morals which keep us coming back after so much so i know i am jewish in a sense, and he also said something in hebrew but it sounded like amanita, like the mushroom which returns, he said the jews are the amanita people, the forever people, we are cast out but there is always compassion, because of our kindness, we return so i wonder sometimes, as i am cast out, and turned away, or as nature is bonded and these stories begin to live, what do they really mean? what is the meaning of my actions, perhaps its better just to simply love god, because from there no harm can be done, i loose myself in the senses, but all of it is one, i come back, here to love, its difficult, so many influences pulling in each direction, so much reasoning, where is the middle ground, its like the koan SHUZAN held up his staff and waved it before his monks. "If you call this a staff," he said, "you deny its eternal life. If you do not call this a staff, you deny its present fact. Tell me just what do you propose to call it?" how to find peace in it all, embracing all, the name is everything, everything as in endless, silence sound light form void and it frees you from something, it always brings you back to it, it is all the cycles and happenings not from within but from a deeper center, a deeper force like this which even creates these things a stirring and it is alive it is wisdom it is love, somehow the world represents these things manifest, i've heard it and seen it all, i've felt it and known it, somehow my family comes between all of this, am i really that special i wonder? what does it matter, if these beings exist, these wise ones, these mystics who have always known and tried to come through but the world on the outside, it only speaks of death and war and servitude, it really is the system, its beautiful though the whole thing, becomes inseperable, brings you to the deepest most natural unadulterated area of the soul and lets that ray pour forth, yes we are all adonai, these beings are around who help and live in this truth, its funny how things can suddenly happen, there is fear and there is love, and there is true love which is eternal true love which is the reason we are all here, born of love, isn't that amazing into a world of love, this is just one way to the source, its one path, a spontaneous path but it is based heavily in judaism based in reality, all of them are or they would not exist and anything can lead you there, but we must chose with our hearts, i see nature, and the animals and the beautiful things of the world and i say woah.. woah its so deep and the Goddess was there its so deep, it has become like life and death, it has become love itself and then the bounds which leap upon it, love is a battle field, that seems to be what the classical written torah is saying, unconditional love unconditional love unconditional love if we all came from that place what would be lacking in the world we have it in us... i dont understand, but it takes me, its like a dream i really don't kno we pray for the earth pray for all worlds, pray for the animals, pray for the trees, pray for our wellbeing and that of all people and things, pray to understand what it means, the spirits who move through the streets and what we do, when we act in innocence, it seems there is something there, which is reacting, perhaps seeing something we do not, but it is love with gathers again and again, love which grows constantly in an instant infinite like the oceans of space we all drift in and it takes me back to something so beautiful, beautiful hearing the bird songs, the fairies, the freedom, not the fear, but the freedom, it departs from being anything then, its just goodness its just love, they are the fairy songs, the silly music of the leaves and the sun pouring through the sky and the world just coming into the morning, it is all connected, all things are related, it is all connected, we cannot act upon another without bringing the same upon ourselves in some way or form, because we are them... this is all rambling loosely connected, i think God enjoys different forms of worship everywhere, which is what makes each place a different place, and makes it worthwhile to travel, i don't think its wrong to go into other names but the unity is always there and underlying... i keep hearing things.. yeah, this is just writing, its writing its prayer its meditation its dance its moving its sowing its trying its living its dying is that not judaism is that not everything all together in the face of the ultimate reality holding on for dear life and slowly dissolving away, like a deer, just as a being before Creation, hearing from the source, the great mother this, these inspirations hitting you, if God has created you I believe you are jewish, its just different, you are here all things have the blessing, not some and others cast aside all things, like the animistic world, life itself, existence itself, but no even deeper than that, at the realm of nonexistence to in pure potential, or maybe thats just talk.. chrysanthemum rays he says and he walks on and life goes on the birds are there it goes on its like some crazy garden, and you see it is truly God and who cares what it was before who ever cared about names it is just love that is what life is, life is the process of literally making love, creating love, transforming love into all things and all things into love, in all the ways and it has been endlessly perfected and reverie upon reverie upon reverie even into boredom where the very boredom is the reverie and even if nothing in consistent still something is there and that is beautiful, everything is good there is just what happens, we are ourselves, perhaps all from totally seperate worlds, interlocking and changing all the time, wytipodating, and forming different and different patterns, i have no idea, its pointless to go on, but its good, its just good, good is what we are all trying to do, we always all do the best thing we think is possible, whoever makes a decision which they believe in the worst possible, even in a moments instant, it doesnt even come from us, everything is always ascending, everything innately knows the deepest wisdoms though nothing speaks, because maybe nothing truly is, it is all truly the dream, perhaps i am the sun... i have no idea.. i hear them speaking (i am schizophrenic) warning, talking about past events, in the sky, its god its the angels its everything, its all changed once again its the arcane nature of the universe, of the self of life... its what is yeah, so maybe i should not say it is judaism, but in a way i think it is, its just another aspect of it, an aspect of many things, looseness, anything, freedom. not knowing, growing in love the rainbow family, the family of the lights, all colors through the prism, all the ways are like all the shades vibing with eachother, like the feeling of being each of those shades, life as a shade incarnating and incarnating who knows whether better to grow darker or lighter or if it matters or if each one is drastically different, and it has no pattern. I have felt it is all I can say, only I can decide for myself, despite what the world says, and it will always say something it seems, and never nothing, but sometimes people just talk, tthngs are just done, life is just lived, and there is good from all of it, miraculously, all of it every random meeting all of it, everything anything anyone does, all of it is the doing of God, there is no one besides God to know, to interact with, all of us are inescapably lost within him, within her, within it, digging the pure whateverness that is there... its interesting to think, and letting go, maybe i have to, this calling has been building that it is God, God, what will you do, what will happen, what are all the things that are happening, what do they all mean? maybe its always happened like this, always and forever and all the forces in our lives are the Gods the primal energies and we the awareness partakers beholders just because thats the way it is, not much point but to feel good, and spread love see the sky feel the joy when you can, feel everything though, all the feelings are there they have a message when you go through them.. i don't know and yeah, wanti... wanti is a good place, i remember wanti its coming back good things, its not really about anything you could say its crazy, it doesn't matter, its just like you know warmth, open skies, gatherings, wanderings, solitude, peace company, but everything, just like everything else blah blah oh well who knows, who knows, we all have to dream and dream! that is why we are here to dream if no one dreams we will get no where, if no one feels we will numb the whole world, if no one laughs we will all maybe be very bored an box everything up lol, its a great crazy endless joke, all of life, the best comedian ever best comedian, Upto Adonai Ranadoli Bingam here again to say random things and experience life life be alive, do as you can live, not just one alone, one apart, all together its a band its together its just yeah..yeah i don't mean to desecrate anything, but not to leave it lifeless either so this is the best i can do, maybe i will stand corrected, i am always uncertain.. my mind says but my heart is sure they all keep yelling, they all keep talking yelling but its beautiful its the hallway its a miracle man, its the rays of YHWH! its life its algae and green stuff and blossoms and water and jokes and rabbits and daffodils and apples, and mulberries and pumpkins and shamans and bean toys and peppers and swans and clouds and villages and wells and rivers and raves and yeah I am Schizophrenia! i thought about that earlier, and yeah, its God though its the archons and the angels, right here... its ridiculous, its so ridiculous... i've been here before, through it all! its funny to sit here writing about it when its alive everywhere, but yeah... yeah they're saying all the beautiful things it links and connects it couldn't be scripted it too much it couldn't just be that no they are really spirits and they are even people just like us it is just life it is like water, life stream always changing, everything, everything is together its one thing yeah... wow thanks! I have no idea what its about, it might be about that, i think thats always true, it reminds me of so much so many parts of my life, parts i never thought i'd remember, parts even from other things, its about everything, its a riddle about riddles themselves and about obviousness and about harmony for all beings and the thriving of the earth and all life, the circle of life... aloha.. hakuna matata.. amen and all that corny stuff
when one comes upon this, in my experience with the state, one appears to be rambling and ecstatic. when i yank off your covers, you appear to have had it. now you will have to figure out what to call it (the indefinite pronoun), so you don't freak out everyone you come into contact with. of course, perhaps it is good for those you freak out to be freaked out....i don't know. it's not on my daily schedule... you DO realize it is a PRO-noun...it shamelessly visits anyone who wants it and charges nothing. what a slut it is! enjoy, spiritual israeli.
its noon again, and i've ignored everyone and gone off alone i don't consider it really apart though whats in them is in me i grow wild like onion grass near the river then i start talking about going on home with the trees, the leaves know what i mean, they ask the sun the sun says, im just spinning around, i'm very revolutionary i like my coffee cold, i enjoy long walks on the beach my favorite color is teal everyone ends up hears this, its like a huge bellow, many lose their hearing forever (gaining a miraculous hidden sense in the process), some asteroids are actually able to make it back from the resulting gail back to Wanti love is good, babe, got my motorcycle and my juicer is my friend i eat the little winds i'm lent too, because i know they wont die and yeah the trees have grown a lot, and the carpenters have gone on to bigger and better things "a'hempin' is a home, resurrectin!" dang hippies ya gotta love em
That was beautiful. For various reasons, I couldn't go [too far] down that path. Had to keep it inside. Judaism was good for me because it didn't shove Love(as an object of MUST-worship) down my throat. It respects separation and boundaries. So I've grown in it. Maybe Judaism contains your interpretation too. If you feel it does, and live Judaism better because of it, who am I to argue.