is DPT water soluable?

does anybody know if the white dpt can be dissolved in water?

 

fuck dpt

 

hey man I like all the fruits in the basket. You are only missing out by cursing a great thing





and you didnt answer my question. Stop with those bad vibes

 

lol. idk man.. what are you trying to do with it? injection or something? sounds crazy..

 

It is an HCl salt, so yes, it can be dissolved in water.

 

yep yep yep weeeee

 

I am considering injection. I only have about 180mgish and IN MY OPINION, that is not enough for desired nasal resultss. Plus I am very interested in trying new ROAs, its always a dif experience. I want to IV it, I have very large veins, and Im not anxious about the whole zero to infinity in seconds thing. Also I feel IM has a greater chance to harm me. Anyone with experience, thats willing to give me solid truth, would be greatly cherished for I have no experience with injecting DPT. I figure Ill start small with like 10-20mg and work my way up.

 

and this is where GB steps in....

 

GB has only received IV injection from a trained medical student (or something similar). he has experience with IM injection of DPT, among other things. i'd be worried about injecting something that wasn't sterile, but i guess nobody sterilizes their dope before shooting up

 

There are some pretty good and through tutorials on how to IV. If you really wanna go that route and don't know anyone with any experience thats your best bet. I suggest finding a vein that doesn't roll around when it's 'pumped up' or one in the hand or wrist (they blow easily). The hardest part about IVing is going too deep and poking right through the other side. Gotta find the right vein and the right angle and take it slow. It shouldn't hurt a whole lot either, that is a sign that something is wrong. Once you found the right spot, pull back on the plunger to make sure you are in the vein then slowly inject. If you feel that ANYTHING is going wrong STOP. I don't know if DPT is absorbed in fatty tissue, i would assume so if IM is an option but if not you do not want it to sit between the skin fatty layer because you will have a nasty and painful situation on your hands.

 

He hates me too much to share with me. its quite a shame

 

i doubt he hates you, man

edit: guess i will stop speaking for him now

 

But then what would you call the phase just before shooting it into your bloodstream where it's being cooked in the spoon? Heat creates a sterile environment, especially when you boil it down to the bare minimum.

Even at the needle exchanges all over the Bay, when you go in to get new needles, saline solution packs, tournequettes, cotton wads, alcohol swabs, etc. they always preach the values of sterility and give you every tool necessary so that when you go home and cook your dope, you don't get an abcess or some shit and have a real-life Requiem for a Dream thing and really lose a limb from infection.

What I would/have feared with injection is adulterants, not bacterium/viruses.

 

I would rather IM than IV anything any day. If, of course, it can be IM'd. I am totally chicken shit about needles tho too.

 

Everyone is until of course they're not any more. lol.

Once that needle pokes through your vein, the plunger is pressed, & whatever the fuck was in the chamber is released into your blood, especially coke or smack, dunno 'bout dpt, mdma, et al, but then there's no turning back and it becomes an addiction unto itself apart from the drug, or a curiousity of sorts, and before you know it, you love the little poke, and love even more the rush to the brain of chemical "x". It's like a sick fucking love affair/hate affair/love affair. Until you DO get an abcess, then it's Worry City, USA! Those fuckers, even with moist, hot compresses don't wanna leave ya for weeks & you're hiding them under long sleeves from anyone & everyone 'cause wtf? What else would cause a grapefruit sized LUMP on your inner elbow???!!! They hurt to even rub cloth on, too. Dangerous shit, yo.

 

Salts are soluble in water. Freebase is not. Mix small sample with water and answer your original question easily. Most likely unless it is in the form of an oil or tacky resin, you have a salt form.

Please do not shoot DPT IV. If you must shoot it (& how do you propose to clean it up?) shoot it IM. Everything in Enthegen Review, Erowid (for what it's worth) and THIKAL indicate that if you're shooting DPT, you shoot IM. It's a whole different world searching out and finding a vein and shooting up, then pulling the needle out before effects slam you like a wall, than sticking a needle into a big muscle and pushing the plunger.

Think and research very carefully before proceeding.

 

^^^^^ agreed on ALL counts. Fuck. I *HAD* 250mg, split it in two over the course of two occasions. One being tonight (I happen to hate snorting anything but coke and heroin too, everything else with chemical tastes in the drip makes me want to vomit, and I have a strong gag reflex, so vomiting even when desired is difficult. UGH), both times I snorted the shit, god is it ever gross. I don't remember how much it cost, but I don't consider for myself that anything significant actually happened this time or last time, last time the neatest thing was a feeling of smooth skin rubbing against mine, like phantoms, but that was as trippy as it got other than distorted thoughts. This time it just made things a little bit creepier and crawlier than they already were on low doses of other stuff, well low except for m1, but the m1 had worn off long before taking dpt, and even considering cross tolerance into the picture, I should've been seeing appiritions, ghosts, goblins, ghoulies, and all manner of batty shit, but just like last time, I just felt a little bit stoned and had some weird thoughts and an urge to close my eyes (but no CEV to speak of), I wish I could rewind time, put all 250mg into a needle and slam it. I then believe I'd have the time of my life with it.

 

great advice^^^

 

I know, huh? lol, that bandwagon just seemed destined for me... then I read Spicey's thoughts about how/what to do when in hyperspace and you've still got a needle sticking out of your vein... you'd hafta wrap the tournequette really, really tightly so that no blood went flowing into your body until you took it out and then removed the tournequette. Sketchy biz, yes, potentially thrilling & worthwhile breakthrough for us guys that can't reach eutopia at the levels all of you can, almost certain as well. It's a coin toss, but Spicey makes some good points, just not factoring into the equation the tournequette and the lack of blood flow until it's removed. I think it's a 50/50 chance of safety. I guess IM'ing would be safer since that doesn't hit in zero to 60 like any intraveinous drug use does. Who knows if I'll go through with it, sounds like he will for sure though!

 

you just made it sound like you knew it was safe to IV dpt. seems like you've never done it or witnessed anyone do it, so you don't know if it's gonna kill him or send him into cardiac arrest or something. just be careful prone. even if the stuff is 98% pure, it's still "dirty" in some sense. you might not want that going directly into your vein.