Is Free Love the same now as it was in 1968

Free Love, to me it was something that happened to me in 1968 ( yeah I know 100 years ago ) but I was at a party and got a little wasted and was just laying around on the floor and some chick that I knew from school came over to talk. it was like hey whats up what are ya doin, hey how ya doin I'm just layin back, she said I like your face can I lay with you, sure there's alot of room. And blah blah blah, we started to make out and fell into each other, made love and then crashed, that was it, we saw each other after that but nothing more ever happened with us after that one time, she was a senior and I was a junior so we would just say hi and pass each other by in the hall. That was free love to me. The end

Peace

 

First, it is a helluva lot more dangerous. If you read and believe the journalistic bullshit, one in four kids have an STD. Second, AIDS was unheard of, monkey fucking had yet to make it to Canada. Third, pussy is easier to come by nowadays. I can't speak for the chicks in 1968 but the number seemed much more limited. Forget about the age I have posted. I know first hand. I went in for group living and group groping.

 

I don't know about the STDs we had we really were not careful at all, but they were there. as for for pussy it was not hard to come by at all, right place right time and there it was.

Peace

 

Not to argue, but right time, right place, right now you can get all you want. You may be correct about STD but to my knowledge no statistics said 1 in 4 had an STD. Likewise, if you knew your business you could cure the STDs of that time. Now, it is touch and go with AIDS. Still you may be 100 per cent right. I am always looking for the right place at the right time!

 

free love now isnt the same as it was in '68.. you have to be alot more careful now what with AIDS and all going around. CONDOMS are alot better now then they ever were and i recommend them to everyone.. i use them everytime i have sex.. just be safe and sex can be as much fun now as it was back then ;-)

 

Of course, your advice is correct, but a blow job with a rubber on isn't as good, nor, in my opinion, is fucking wearing a rubber. Moreover, if you like to eat pussy, as I do, I know of no way to protect yourself. I have been reduced to eating only known snatch. Essentially, my wife, my neighbor's wife, and Linda, if she would come back. I miss you Linda.

 

i know using rubbers isnt as much fun but i have found that it delays playtime.. instead of 45 minutes it can last alot longer.. at least that is what i have found anyway..

 

45 minutes. impressive!!

 

I wish I lived during those times...

 

I don't even consider what we have now as free love, at least, nowhere close to what was going on in the 60s and 70s.

 

So you get it Hmmm, free love was not about threesomes or more, or any of this stuff on here, it was loving someone you were with and just falling into each other, no ties no bond just enjoying one another for the time no hangups about it. We gave it to each other and moved on.

Peace

 

Free love is dead because they have the teens and youth in their 20's, etc., all so afraid of sex now. And to be clear, hiv did not come from monkeys. It was released by the right-wing government to kill gays, blacks, and help stop the hippie movement. This is also why hemp is illegal, besides the fact you can make fuel out of it and this will put the oil/gas industries out of business. We probably have a better chance at getting hiv from the cows, etc., which mostly are infected with the animal versions of these viruses, which can mutate. The right-wing government run by rich class protestant zionist christians and big business advocates work hard to keep hippy like groups and organizations from growing large and powerful. They fear the socialistic aspects of communes which will eventually bring everything they know crumbling down. The rich class is not going to just sit by and allow the hippy movement to expand. They worked hard to crush the concepts of hippies. The right-wing moral-value system is what they work hard to maintain. Ideas like free love have been conquered on a mass scale through fear of disease, and inculcating shallow materialistic views into the youth. Communes broken up based upon again right-wing religious-government standards and regulations which see promiscuousness, polygamy, and teen sex as immoral and where children live, child abuse. This gives them the legal power based upon their laws and values to use force in breaking up the communes. They also want to crush any group that successfully establishes a small socialist like community. We all know that success breeds success and this would multiply until their capitalist system comes tumbling down. So, they make it their interest to crush communes in any way they can. I believe the only way to bring free love back now on a mass scale is to destroy the fears they have built into us. This can be done through a spiritual emphasis and a strong belief in alternative healing, yoga, ayurvedic, tantra, etc.

 

Free Love is and always was just a euphimism for being a whore.

Promiscuity spreads disease, and leads to children being born out of wedlock, who are generally less well-adjusted and less likely to have a successful marriage.


People who aren't promiscuous before marriage are more likely to have succesfull marriages.

Children of better marriages are generally more successful and well adjusted, and are more likely to have a successful marriage one day.

In summary, children of successful marriages are generally more well-adjusted and successful themselves, while "free love(promiscuity)" is detrimental to the institution of marriage, which is essential to the well-being of society.

Free fucking is bad for society, quit making excuses to be a whore.

 

I think the idea of "free love" was/is somewhat of an artificial idea.
Spread, not by some right wing government (Rev. Caesar 999 you are crazy), but by men who thought they were freeing themselves and women, when infact they were merely attempting to control them or the good old "male chauvinism".
People who were inclined to sleep around, did.
Now, people who are inclined to sleep around, do.
Move out of the large metropolis's and ask those people living in 1968, if they took part in "free love", the answer would be "NO".
Sure, people had sex outside marriage (thats nothing new), but the consequences are and were unwanted children and sexually transmitted diseases, and countless amount of teenagers carted off to religious hell holes, and made to feel dirty, never seeing their child again.
Not some sexual awaking, or whatever bullshit "free love" was supposed to give.


As has been said: "free love" is another word for "promiscuity".

 

That's a load of crap. We don't need marriages. Though it's up to the individual. And what's wrong with being a whore? The word means lover of many and it is beautiful. The Holy Whore existed long before this christian nonsense and monogamy. People have a right to be promiscuous and teach their children the same beauty. Monogamy actually goes against human nature. It hardly ever truly works out. It's better to be polygamous or just have many partners. It doesn't matter who is the real genetic parents of the kids. If you're in a commune like community all are the real parents and all have the responsibility of raising all the children together. I'm sick to death of christians and their bullshit values. The fanaticism of judeo-christian values helped to destroy the hippy movement. More people should study the ancient Hindu Tantrism religion, it will be an awakening.

 

And again what's wrong with promiscuity? Sexually transmitted diseases have been around forever, but some of these new ones just came out of no where. And just because their is disease doesn't mean promiscuity is bad and we have the absolute right to practice promiscuity and to teach our children this beauty. The right-wing will always condemn such beauty even when we completely eliminate all sexual diseases through science, even as they create new ones to control us. They will at last be exposed for simply trying to enforce their bullshit moral-values upon everyone. And yeah I'm sure many people did not go and have promiscuous sex in the 60's or could not access it. Many were right-wingers as I said and the rest just couldn't have access for various reasons. And if it wasn't for the scumbag capitalist system we wouldn't have a problem with raising more children. The idea of unwanted children is just ridiculous. It comes down to people not being able to properly take care of children or a mother not ready to have more. The rich class has for centuries upon centuries kept us in poverty slavery and locked down in a system that teaches us total independence rather than interdependence the way it should be. The mercenary capitalist world is crooked to the core. And the right-wing christian works hard to enforce their moral-values upon everyone through civil laws which strip away our rights and freedoms. They do not recognize our opposing moral-values. And we have a right to religious freedom and to live by our own oppositional values. We have a right to be promiscuous and to teach our children such beauty. We have a right to live in communes if we choose. We have a right to be free from the working class exploitation and monetary obstructionism, etc.

 

I never said there was anything wrong with promiscuity.

Ofcourse they came from somewhere.
I'm not blaming "free love" though.
I'd blame irresponsible promiscuity.

Ofcourse people have the right to sleep with as many people as they wish.
With that comes responsibility.
I never said promiscuity was a bad thing.
Promiscuity has its down side, and the majority of people engaging in promiscuous activity pay a heavy price.

Lets have a look what wiki has to say on "free love"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_love

IMO "free love" should be "able to love without..."
I guess that does not have the same ring to it.

"for various reasons"? care to elaborate?
How about while the hippies were taking lots of drugs and having sex with anybody and everybody, the rest of society had to deal with the real world. For the majority of the world 1968 was, like now, just another year, filled with highs and lows, tragedy and happiness.

Plenty of kids are unwanted

This is not the conspiracy forum.

 

First of all I can write whatever I want in any forum, if you don't like it don't read it. And I was trying to say that many people can not access free love or let's say sexual fulfillment at this point because unfortunately people are by nature shallow even as hippies and may only want to have sex with someone they find personally attractive. So, many people will be left out of the loop. This is where those people will need something like money to buy their pleasure. This is our right too, and we need to fight for it. Though of course it should be free, but it will never be for all because of human nature. Also, I don't think quoting from wiki is even worthy because that site is so corrupt and I'm sure there is a lot of money involved. As for polygamy, and harems, etc., these things fit perfectly into hippy culture. They are beautiful and wonderful for society. Though I don't mean the kind of harem in which women are forced into, but one based upon free will. The hippy movement drew much of it's culture from India. The long hair, the tye die, the music, and the practice of free love, ahimsa, etc. The more ancient Hindus and Buddhists practiced a majority religion in many areas of India which was Hindu Tantrism. They had an advanced free love society. They had promiscuity, prostitution, courtesans, temple holy whores, etc. And this system was spread all over south east asia. It wasn't until the muslim invaders conquered much of India that Tantrism went into decline. Under pressure from outside religion and monarchies, they became more conservative unfortunately. Then later on with the british invasion they were forced to become even more conservative with the christian influence, military rule, occupation, etc. Only now again finally is Tantrism making a come back, as well as Buddhism, and Hinduism. These religions are the conquering religions. This far inferior watered down belief systems like chrisitanity with it's fanatical idiotic views is doomed to soon become another dead religion. In this new age of Horus, or Aquarius, there can only be room for evolved self-liberating, self-fulfilling as well as thinking of the greater community through interdependence, and truly spiritual religions. If people want to be promiscuous so be it, monogamous fine, celebate that's ok, homosexual great, etc. True egalitarianism needs to be established, not this false nonsense under the current capitalist system and hypocritical christians, judaists, etc. As for sexually transmitted diseases, hiv did not just suddenly start spreading around because people were having too much sex or defying some false god's values. We live in an age where super-science is controlled by the most fanatical and corrupt people on earth, christians and capitalists! There is no doubt in my mind that diseases are being made and unleashed to wipe out whole populations, for population control, religious/political dominion, etc. The goal is also to put fear into a majority of the people to force them into conformity with a specific set of values, i.e. the judeo-christian moral-value system. And I believe the only way to combat this is to break the fears, to live our lives as we would if no disease existed and keep working through our own physical and spiritual knowledge, science, etc., to come up with solutions, cures, etc., and don't rely on these governments for answers or solutions. In the capitalist system medicine is dominated by money and not health. They make billions on drugs that we don't need, when the natural cures exist right there in front of us. We are brainwashed into a culture that is preying on us for money before we are even born. This kind of culture and society must perish with time through our own spiritual and physical evolution. Meaning we have unite and work hard to put these corrupt people and fanatical religions out of business forever!

 

Say what ever you like, I was not attempting to silence you.
But, this is not the conspiracy forum, and that was part conspiracy.
It would be nice to talk about something and not have some mad ravings about some vast right wing conspiracy.
Which seems to occur here quite often.

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You say people can have any sexual experience or be anyway they want.
Yes, our sex lives might be governed by religeon or other such influences.
Generally to maintain social order, which is not a bad thing.
We did not start out having "free love", there has always been some form of nessesity that keeps people in a "family" for life.

Where is it wrong?
Why is it corrupt?
I thought it was non profit.
Maybe you would like to contribute what you have written here, to it.

How did it spread around then ? In the Ether?
Sadly, I don't think they practiced safe "free love" in Africa.
People don't have to be having too much sex, they just need to be having unprotected sex with several partners.

Yes, but people can fight this vast conspiracy with a condom.
When the global population starts to fall rather than rise exponentially, I'll maybe give your theory some thought.

Dominated by money, but saves millions of peoples lives every year.
You can't question that, that is just a fact.

The majority of drugs are extracts of natural substances.
Good look producing enough medicine "the old fashion way".

I'm sorry I'm not responding to the majority of your post.
You said don't read it if you don't like it, so I didn't.
Well, I did, but I'm not going to respond to it.

 

First of all it's not a conspiracy theory, it's fact. The reality is the left wing must fight off the right-wings efforts to stop advancing toward the freedoms we believe in. Some of the aspects of what I'm saying about where certain diseases like hiv came from can never be proven, at least not at this time. That scumbag reagan the big enemy of hippies waited until over 4,000 gays and others were dead in the u.s. from hiv before announcing it in a speech to be a major threat to civilization. They waited cause they believed it to be a gay disease and the right-wing hates gays and works hard to stop them from achieving equal rights. This is just one example.

http://www.aegis.com/topics/timeline/

Actually, we did start out having free love ideas from the beginning. Family structures as we know them only came about later on and it's mainly judeo-christians with one of the newest religious views that mostly pushed monogamy upon the people by law. Monogamous family units are very inferior and backward compared to polygamous and open family units. It was widely practiced in India, Egypt, Greece, Rome, etc. In India and probably elsewhere they practiced both polygamy and polyandry which I support, we have to equal rights here too. In the Baudhayana Dharmashastra it talks about some of the ancient laws they had.

"There are four castes Brâhmanas, Kshatriyas, Vaisyas, and Sudras. Males belonging to them may take wives according to the order of the castes, a Brâhmana four, a Kshatriya three, a Vaisya two and a Sûdra one. Sons begotten on wives of equal or of the next lower castes are called Savarnas of equal caste. Those born of(wives of the second or third lower castes become Ambashthas, Ugras, and Nishâdas. Of females wedded in the inverse order of the castes are born Âyogavas, Mâgadhas, Vainas, Kshattris, Pulkasas, Kukkutakas, Vaidehakas, and Chandâlas."

Modern Hinduism has been pressured by many cultures especially christianity to become more monogamous. This kind of pressure and force has been carried out through history by different religious groups, military groups, etc., which have used many tactics to dominate and control, enforcing their form of moral-value system. What people have to realize is that there isn't one true moral-value system like christians claim along with their one true god dogma. There are other people who have opposing moral-values and they have rights to live in the form of society they wish, otherwise it is oppression and these people, christians, etc., are not your allies or friends in any way. They simply do not have the right to enforce their values upon everyone through civil laws, because they believe they are the only truth. We don't live in a spiritually enlightened civilization, but a backward one. A truly enlightened one would recognize this fact and our rights.

As for hiv spreading, I was trying to explain to you that viruses don't just appear out of no where. Viruses are not even alive, they are simply bits of code. Yes, they spread whatever way they are capable of doing, sexually, airborne, water, touch, in meat that non-vegetarians may eat, etc. If the government or any other government or military was going to produce a biological weapon, one of the best viruses to use would be the bubonic plague. And the thing about hiv is that it has all the symptoms of the plague at one tenth the scale. I believe it was probably created in south africa first to kill blacks, then sold or retrieved by the u.s. and then it was some how distributed to gay bath houses in locations in america and europe for testing and elimination. A virus like this could thin the population and create a billion dollar market for drugs. Either way, there's no proof that I'm aware of personally, though any country with advanced bio-weapons technology could have created it, especially the u.s. Population control is another idea which they would use many types of viruses, cancers, etc., to shrink the population the best they can without total mass pandemic in too short a time. Every government has a secret population control program. The fact that global population is still rising despite all of these diseases, and more natural disasters doesn't mean there isn't programs out there to combat population, it just means we are much faster at multiplying than we are at dying off, until we get hit by fast moving mass pandemic virus. Then we will all be screwed, except for the lucky few with natural immunities or secret vaccines.

The medical industry and drug industry doesn't save lives, they only pretend to and kill more people than ever before in history. They knew more about medicine over 5,000 years ago than they the charlatans do now. They are only just catching up to much of what they already knew, except for the idiots in the european dark ages which was again brought on by christian fanaticism. We went from what I believe to be a utopia star civilization which started over and built up to an ancient mechanical-industrial age of high technology which we still do not fully comprehend, and then degenerated into barbaric fools and finally now we have the opportunity to rise above these contemporary dark ages brought on by judeo-christian fanaticism, along with several other fanatical religions with pretty much the same values, and a dominating rich class with its capitalist control systems enslaving the majority of the people world-wide in a state of perpetual poverty slavery. This modern medical establishment mocks the hippo crate's, and egyptian schools spiritual devotion to medicine, now distorted into a billions of dollars a year for both the doctor/quacks and the drug companies. They don't treat diseases with the real cures, they substitute them for drugs. And work hard to stomp out alternative, ayurvedic, chinese herbal, etc., medicinal paths that have been around for thousands of years and are better than their quackery. They now try to steal all their natural cures or aides to health for their own profit. They want to dominate the industry. Most people can't even afford their quack drugs. And I have not seen their drugs saving any lives, only making people sicker. And the ones that are usually beneficial come from the more ancient systems. Most of what the government tells us is healthy is a lie and they purposely deceive us, to give the drug companies, and horrible food industry what they want which is government endorsement in exchange for political financial support. We have all been lied to and deceived for generations. Almost all of the nutritional claims are falsified and twisted. The psychological institutes built upon lies and money as well. The prisons, judges, lawyers, cops, all another racket designed to make money. We live in a system where everything is designed to make money. You take money out of the equation and watch how fast those people jump to some other form of profit and control. Everything is corrupted beyond repair in the capitalist system. And they built the corruption into the system itself. Politics won't change anything, because the system itself has to change and they have it locked in place by law for their own protection. Most politicians are from the rich class, because that's their ticket to maintaining their wealth, power, and control. Poor people can not afford to be in politics for long and the major parties won't support them unless they have great powers of speech to bring in massive amounts of campaign donations, but that's rare. I can go on and on, but that's enough for now. I made my point.