Is God Vain?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by def zeppelin, May 1, 2009.

  1. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    It seems from reading the Bible that God doesn't like imperfections, either in reality, the spirit, body, or action.

    What does everyone here think?
     
  2. dubtrice

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    if that were true then your god wouldn't like anything
     
  3. def zeppelin

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    How so? And what do you mean by 'your God'? If there is only one God then he is everyone's God. Yes or no?

    Personally, I think that God is vain because he cares. He doesn't want us to be less than what we truly are. If we are less than what we truly are then that can bring suffering that could be avoided. If God had a plan for us and we did something to go against that plan then we would enter into a lower realm that we shouldn't be in. But it acts as a 'punishment'.
     
  4. Jagadananda

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    Since God is the perfection of all attributes I would have to say no.
     
  5. def zeppelin

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    I agree with you that God is the perfection of all attributes, but is vanity necessarily a bad thing? Is God's vanity different than from say a woman's vanity?

    But in the end, the question remains, does God act vain? Does he not like imperfections?
     
  6. Monkey Boy

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    If you take the definition of vain as being excessively proud I would have to say he's the opposite.
     
  7. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Considering how flawed god's supposed "divine plan" is, and the idea that he is also invisible I'd say he would be more embarrassed than vain in nature.

    If there is a god he or she would have to be the ultimate underachiever.
     
  8. def zeppelin

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    When did I say that God is proud? I am just asking whether or not God likes imperfections, and if God does not like imperfections, can you call that vanity, but not in the human sense, but in the higher sense.
     
  9. def zeppelin

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    I am going by what the Bible says and whether or not the God of the Bible is vain. Not whether or not God's plan is false or flawed, or that he is or isn't invisible, or if he likes to achieve.
     
  10. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    I guess it would ultimately depend on what god and from what holy book or edition of the bible you were talking about.

    As for whether or not he enjoys imperfections, I personally would say that a being who is omnipotent would be unable to perceive or understand what a flaw was simply because they would be unable to make a mistake.
     
  11. def zeppelin

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    The God from the Bible. That specific holy book. The one that I just mentioned :p

    The current edition that I am going by is the NIV and from the first chapter. Does the character that represents God act vain? Does he dislike imperfections? From reading that first chapter, does it seem like he enjoys flaws? If so, then why.

    A flaw in this sense is something less than perfection. Think of Plato's forms as a reference.

    Can God think of flaws? I don't know, but it seems like he would be able to.

    Can you add on that one?
     
  12. def zeppelin

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    Some definitions if it is helpful:

    1) Who/What is God?
    The character that is represented as god in the bible
    2) What do you mean by imperfections? something that goes against gods plan
     
  13. Mrdude46

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    You need to listen to Jethro Tull's My God and Hymn 43
    It's on you tube

    Peace
    Dan
     
  14. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Where as I believe this to be true, I don’t think it makes God vain.

    The Hebrew word for “vanity” literally means “breath” or “vapor” and suggests a lack of substance, permanence, or enduring value and I don’t think God is any of that and in fact is quite the opposite.
     
  15. def zeppelin

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    I agree. I guess that I used the wrong word. I don't know how else to express what I was trying to, but thx for pointing that out as you did.

    If anyone feels that I ignored their point, I'm sorry.
     

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