Is hunting ok?

Discussion in 'Pets and Animals' started by *RainingPeace*69, Jun 28, 2005.

  1. *RainingPeace*69

    *RainingPeace*69 Member

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    Hello Everyone,

    i was just looking for some opinions on hunting. do you think its ok. i mean all hippies are not vegitarians right? is it ok if you shoot an animal only if you use every part of it? Please give me some opinions.

    thanks
     
  2. Sage-Phoenix

    Sage-Phoenix Imagine

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    Of course if it was totally necessary for survival, the animal's suffer was to the bare minium and every part used. Well guess I could live with that.

    That's not the case though is it? At least not in the Western world.
    So really it's just humans with their self egos depriving animals of their lives and inflicting suffering the process.
    Could never be an advocate of that.

    My Uncle breeds pheasants, releases them and the hunts them.
    I just can't understand how someone could nurture an animal, watch them develop and feel some attachment, then so cruely turn on them.
    Having companion animals myself, there is no way I could contemplate any harm coming to them. There truly isn't a diffrence between so called 'pets' and whatever is deemed 'food', at least I can't see it.

    Maybe I am just a bunny-hugging* veghead. Well am now at least, but I have always held as a conviction that hunting is wrong. Yes even as a meat guzzling child. As do my family, who still eat meat.

    *literally, said companion animals are indeed rabbits.
     
  3. HippyLandscaper

    HippyLandscaper learning a new way

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    Depends on what you're hunting for

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  4. tigerlily

    tigerlily proud mama

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    lol, that picture is hilarious, i must say...
     
  5. inzgary

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    Ok I AM a veggietarian. I dont like hunting. If I was trapped on a desert island with no food and my only chance for survival was to kill I would die. I AM STRONGLY AGAINST BOWHUNTING IT IS CRUEL AND INHUMAINE. The animal suffers greatly and sometimes LIVES runs away and LIVES the rest of its life with an arrow in it. If you hunt I know I cant stop you but please do not hunt with a bow.
     
  6. icedteapriestess

    icedteapriestess linguistic freak

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    I am a vegetarian too, and one of the reasons why is because of the dead deer my step-dad would bring home.

    Now, don't everyone hate me for saying this, but, I also understand that deer hunting is pretty much a necessity. If people didn't hunt the deer, there wouldn't be enough food for the existing population to survive the winter. The deer would be weaker, and more would die as a result of the overpopulation than would die from the hunter. Also, the females wouldn't be strong enough to give birth or even carry their fawns to term.

    Maybe if we hadn't killed off most of their natural preditors, we wouldn't have to hunt them. Like, if their were more wolves they would do the hunting for us. But, even then, that wouldn't work so well. A wolf isn't going to go through the trouble of hunting and running down a deer or elk or moose if he can just stop by the local farm and eat a nice fat calf.

    We seriously messed up the natural ecosystem. So, we can either hunt deer and try to keep their numbers down to keep the rest of the deer healthy or we can just hit them with our cars... or we could all move back to England or Spain or Denmark and in a couple decades the ecosystem might, MIGHT, have worked itself straight again.

    I don't eat meat... I am a vegetarian. But, if the hunter actually uses the meat from the animal he killed, and said animal isn't on any endangered species lists, then I don't think he is doing anything wrong. I think vegetarianism is a personal choice... i don't hate people because they act or believe differently that I do. My step-dad uses all the meat from the deer he hunts.... and he donates the hide and antlers and bones to a local tannery and a local carver. All the deer-parts are used.

    I do have a problem with poachers and people who have year-round hunting rights. Back home, it is common to come across a dead doe and cow moose in the woods with her fetus removed. Some believe the fetal meat to have special powers. They take the fetus and leave the mother to rot. That is with out argument totally wrong.
     
  7. inzgary

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    This is a rather strange story related to what you said about the large population of deer. My dad was driving his new Blazer down a divided highway and a deer joulted out of nowhere rammed the driver's side door in. My dad didnt hit the deer, the deer hit my dad.
     
  8. icedteapriestess

    icedteapriestess linguistic freak

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    A moose once tried to mate with my car. Poor little geo still has hoof dents in the roof. My fault for being in the woods during rutting season! Bet the deer scared the heck out of our dad!
     
  9. *RainingPeace*69

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    I dont use a bow. i hunt shotgun. do you think that makes the animals suffer as much?
     
  10. icedteapriestess

    icedteapriestess linguistic freak

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    Depends on if you are a good shot or not.
     
  11. BraveSirRubin

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    Hunting for food is normal, hunting for fun is sadistic.
     
  12. HippyLandscaper

    HippyLandscaper learning a new way

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    I will start hunting about the same time I start running around the jungle in a loin cloth. I will use a spear.
     
  13. Kilgore Trout

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    I am a vegetarian, but I am not philisophically opposed to hunting in certain circimstances. It's certainly a lot better than factory farming.
    Are you asking rhetorically...or do you actually use the whole animal?
    ...and what precautions do you take to minimize suffering?
     
  14. wiggy

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    there are other ways to control the animals population apart from hunting. hunting is banned in england now which is good thats fox hunting anyway i think people who hunt are sick, they do it for a sport ohh fun lets go and kill this deer sounds like a laugh to me. not. the worst people are the ones who hunt with horse and dogs e.g like us brits used to first they runa round trying to find a scent of a fox, then they chase it for a few miles then when the dogs get it the rip it to shreads and eat it. thats only the things they hunt as for the dogs and horses if they are used only for hunting when they get to old the kill the and feed them to the newer dogs including horses. there is no need to hunt there is enough animals in this world killed everyday and they are achally used not just hunted then left/eaten their leg etc.
     
  15. Elle

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    I am a vegetarian and I don't believe it's right to kill anything unless it is necessary. Fortunatley for me and alot of other people, killing animals for food is not necessary for survival. What I despise is how it is a "sport". That there are magazines and an entire tv station devoted to the "sport" of hunting....that people kill animals and then plaster their heads on the wall like tropheys.........That people actually enjoy hunting an animal to its death is pretty fucking disturbing.
     
  16. shadowd_dreamr

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    my father has always hunted, every since i was a little girl..
    he would kill deer, moose, males and females.. but he always had a licence for doing so.. and he has his rifle licenced as well..

    i dont care much for deer meat, although i love moose steak.. **drool**..
    i could never be a Veggieterian.. i love meat to much..
     
  17. *RainingPeace*69

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    you asking rhetorically...or do you actually use the whole animal?
    ...and what precautions do you take to minimize suffering?
     
  18. *RainingPeace*69

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    i use the entire animal. what do i do to minimize the suffering?... im a good shot
     
  19. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Senior Member

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    It's hard to condemn you if you actually do as you say.

    I still don't agree with eating meat, but this is a million times better than the way most people do it (institutionalized cruelty).
     
  20. vegetable_man

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    When i was growing up, i had 6 brothers, and 2 sisters.... we lived on a farm and, needless to say, we where poor.... so hunting was another way for us to get food...... now, i live in New Mexico and haven't hunted in a few years..... i would love to start again, instead of buying meat from the stores..... i see nothing wrong with hunting, as long as it's for food..... and not for the sport...
     

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