is it unamerican to smoke pot?

i know i know stupid question right?
but this post
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3537740&postcount=49
in this thread on graffiti
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3537962
got me thinking
do any others believe that the american way is to obey all laws without question, regardless of the justness of said laws, because thats what it means to be american?

 

i'm canadian. so i'm gonna go with...
i have no answer for you.

 

Well I already answered the question in the other thread, so maybe you want me to make a copy paste of that post and put it here?
ok, i do it.
lol

 

anyone who ever uses a term like "un-American" with a straight face has abused to right to be a retard.

 

fortunately i dont recognize borders as defining us so your welcome to substitue canadian for american or simply human
is it human nature to obey all laws simply because those who govern over you tell you thats what humans (who live where you do) are told thats what good humans from there do


hope that wasnt confusing

 

people would probably like to think that the american way is to follow all laws made by the big people of the u.s.
but all through history, when laws were first started.. i'm sure not every single person, maybe not even half of the people obeyed the laws that were given

so maybe the american way IS breaking laws and not following them?

 

Well I know a french rock band, the best of all, that was totally unknown, and who made their first concert by advertising for free.
To do so htey used all the advertising big banners that were on motorways and in the city, and who were free at that time. And when one isnt advertising with something, it shows the number where to call to put your add on it and says "telephone" and the number under it.
So what they did is to spray under the name "telephone" the place and date where the concert will be, and everybody all themedias and everyone in Paris and else where was wondering whom had done so and what was going to happe that day there. All they knew was the name "Telephone"..
who was written in red letter in all those banners.
And no pub was put on the baners they had painted because some thought it was already a special artistic form for add...
So they made their concert a week later, and incredibly lots of people came up to see it and the tv companyies too, and it was recorded, and it made their first album, who was called "telephone" and that was the name of the band from then on.
And they had a song who was called telephone and made a hit for years, and all the tema were about living in the city, and the life of the kids there, the homeless kids or those living mostly in the street.
So they got known by grafities at a time when grafity was an unknown art form.
It was in the seventies. Was it very unfrench?
They also made "the human Bombe" and many real good music and lyrics, and all their songs and story was like a myth.
I am sure you never heard of them in the US.
They were talking about the deshumanised way we communicate, before the cell phone, and before the internet.
Do you think they were too american for french guys to be?

But I would like to know what it means this unamerican way.
Like smoking pot is unamerican, alright so I thought i was in an american forum, are oyu saying that nobody here is an american?
and what about the gatherings?
So there is 60.000 foreigners gathering illegally inside the border of America and meeting soem place in Arkansas, but who are not going to be arrested?

So you are saying that the entire Hollywodd crew and actors are all unamerican?
And all the singers too?
maybe a handfull both sides that do the booz and not the pot or do both or do coke instead of pot or booz, but nonetheway thats a lot of people who are not american. I guess that leave you with the mormons, which mostly come from Danmark, to live with as entire americans and i hope hell you are wrong.
A french singer once defined the american as :

<<Behonce our winds, over our borders,
In those countries sun of sand and stones
Where thus the cross and thus the prayers
Gods have forgotten those cursed soils

In his poor suitcase, his thin stuff
A banal story of man and misery
He hold in his skirt his ultimate richness
his two couragous arms, his harsh youth
And all against his skin, like an Inca treasure
His name on a visa, for the USA

But long is the road
hard is the way
heavy my load
But deep is my faith
Long is the road

On the 61 highways, the shaddow of a Zimmerman
Ten trains of losers, for one Rockfeller
Burning your skin to become a Battling Joe
When each hope is declined in dollars

Until the bans where the stars show themselves out
Under the lights, all is white, clean and rich
From the "black thursday" until the blue of John Ford
In each story a gold digger is hidding himself.>>

Jean-Jacques goldman
81 - 89 "Singulier"

Well I dont care about being american nor what american is, I love the man, and i dont care if its on Venus or Mars that my star will crash, I will follow him.
American roots are on Europe, being an american, as a most common inheritage, is to be uprooted.

An american is an uprooted.
The rest is history.
And on that, i am sure, all we agree.
Long is the road, to the gathering point, where all will be reunited.
So long after, they are still looking,
for each others, and for the end of the road.
Must be why there is so many highways.
There is always hope, at the end of the road
Must be.
Where else?

Being in love with an american is like loving the wind.
You've got to know what way..
Wait until I got him into my space ship, then we will see winds
of faith and happyness.

Smoking pot is like smiling, thats very unamerican.
yeah.. and ?
So the flower power generation wasnt american at all, and all Katmandou stories werent told by american at all.
Then whom did???
Merde!
We got cheated and we didnt even knew it!
If you add to it that barbecuing is unamerican, you've got a huge demographical fall in the US overnight.
Whos left?
Maybe some gringos from Mexico who crossed the line that same night, from Mexico to ex-mexico...
If smoking pot is unamerican, so I am more american than most american.
And I am french.
Soaring, we are going to have a headhach-

 

the word American means a million different things to a million different people. therefore, it's ambiguous if getting high is American behavior or not. in the sense that the anti-graffiti guy meant, it is anti-American because it is against the law; the government forbids it, so the "American" thing to do is to dociley do as the higher-up's tell you and keep out of the gutter. only devious, subversive un-American's break laws.

 

i'm sure the originator of this statement never thought about wether its unamerican to speed when hes late for work
i bet he never thought of it being unamerican when he had his 1st beer at 15
the american way is freedom afterall
in an age of patriot acts can we still believe in an american way when the government chosen to represent us goes against the principles it was founded on?

& for that matter since when is the way of the people & the way of the government 1 in the same? if they were why do we need the government at all?

 

The american way of life is supposed to be based around freedom, so I say "smoke up" if that's what you wanna do. It is unamerican to put limitations on what we can and can't do, as long as we're not hurting anyone.

 

Eagle, look at the justice system of your county, and oyu've got your answer.
The law there is made to be broken by lawyers living on getting-rich-quick-plans. of their own or of those they are defending or opposing.
They are following the law to the inch, and thats why those with money can easily break it, cause whom, of the beliver and respectable people will ever belive that a lawyer and a judge and a rich and respectable man will ever break the law or buy himslef free?
Nobody. except the poor and middleclass, who therefore break the law because the justice is unjust..to them in particular, who cannot forge the law who cannot buy the judge.
It is unamerican to be or the one or the other, it is american to both break the law and keep it very strongly and got to extreeme to inforce it..but to same extreemes to desinforce it.
with a queart milliard individuals of 56 different nationalities to begin with, well, it make it uneasy and strange to make one copy conform profile that will fit them all.
We can say that the difference between you and me is a visa, but once i got it and we meet, i am sure there will be more common point that a visa and much more differences than having or not a visa.
The question is dull.

 

sounds very frenchy to me.

 

"The American Way" is just another example of nationalism being used to control people. It is something made up by people in order to control other people.

 

my point exactly
& believing in it is to be controlled by it

is this the way we are suposed to be?

 

sounds french too

this too is french.

So is it french or american or are french americans or are americans frecnh or are french ways americans ways in fact, or are most humans just happy for freedom and for doing what they like to do and to enjoy themselves?

 

i agree completely.

 

yup you said it
its all myths & misdirection
its the human way
governments try to claim it for theyre own to demonize all others
try to seperate us with made up proof of our differences without recognizing our simularities

universal concepts like freedom, justice, unity, rightousness are claimed to be exclusively "ours" therefore missing in all others..
& ofcourse if our way is right & all others wrong we must deffend our way..to deffend our way we need governm,ents we need money we need weapons & armies.. we give up THE WAY for OUR WAY without question

then ofcourse we need something to justify the weapons the power given to the handful known as the government, so lets invent a them, lets call them simply them.. so this theoretical them has theyre way, which isnt our way despite all simularities.. ofcourse theyre way threattens our way by its existence because it offers an alternative way to our way & we cant have that now can we? how can our way be THE RIGHT WAY if other ways exist & work perfectly fine?

 

your right the american way is freedom to do whatever you want.
like freedom of speech, religion, and whatever else there is
thats why so many people came to america in the first place, cause of the freedom..

thats what the american way is SUPPOSED to be..
but now all we get is the government controlling everything we do,
and we get in trouble for anything we do even if it is freedom of speech, religion, etc. etc.

 

That's what they tell you in school, at least.

 

so, whats the REAL story?