is meditation just daydreaming?

I've been having alot of what can only be discribed as ultra sensory visualizations during the day, when i'm fully awake but happen more frequently and with more intensity when i've been sitting awhile and especially so if I take a walk in the woods (a safe happy place for me) or smoke a little marijuana am alone or EAT A DONUT (sugar?) - usually lasting from 3-10 seconds and usually come in waves of buildup and then finally climax and lessening from there...I usually see this specific girl who I don't know that I find very attractive doing everyday chores and hangs out with me, smokes etc. I would say i'm not a lonely person.

Am wondering what the differences are between meditation and daydreaming, I would call them almost interchangeable, with my experiences, they seem similiar...So am I daydreaming, meditating, fantasizing

this past visualization I had tonight, I saw her in a kitchen, eating standing up and literally heard her and saw her stomping on the floor, but more of a knocking sound. I' ve been having visualizations of her for about 5 months sometimes daily but they have been sooo clear and vivid. Am wondering if it might be a ghost, spirit guide or strictly fantasy. I never see her in a sexual way eventhough I saw her on a vid that was adult oriented. It feels and seems like these visualizations are coming from the same path that I use to psychicly see ghosts that once lived on land in town, I proved one visualization (He told me his name and I looked it up in town records and he lived where I saw him and wearing period authentic clothing (civil war attire)
this girl feels just as I imagined her momnths ago, but now she's moving and doing things, which is a new thing. The only other time I saw her was 2 months 3 months ago when I saw her in a very black room sitting on a bed, she motioned for me to come to her and she then handed me a pencil and paper, like she wanted to talk. And now with her stomping on the kitchen floor I feel like she's gotten my attention but i'm trying all I can to help my visualizations throughout the day. I burn alot of calories at work, physical labor and eating a donut really helps these visualizations so i've been having a donut a day, just at dusk is the perfect time, I can see her better and dusk and into the night than during the day.

 

Meditation is grounded in Self Realization, if one lacks a genuine Awakening of God bodily, then all that one is doing in every moment is daydreaming, even when they think they are meditating. ;]

 

Hmm I never heard that "no idle thoughts"

Does your comment on joy or bliss have to do with these visualizations i'm having. Does anyone else have these? I wish I knew how to describe the experience, certainly blissfull,but maybe it doesn't matter how I would describe them? I've just never had such intense imaginery visualizations,

It's like when I hear ghosts breathing trying to communicate with me, when i'm alone and quite I can hear them (i used to be able to) Now it is this girl that follows me and I can call on her, she helps me make decisions and has a personality, she dresses very nice lol

 

are your eyes open or closed:? are you sitting:? where? how, etc.

 

I thought meditation was counting breaths. I'm doing it so wrong.

 

High

 

Hey lovely

 

sometimes i'm sitting, walking, doesn't matter really...see her all the time pretty much

 

she's sticking around - hope i don't screw up when friends are around and start talking with her lol

 

what does everyone think this being is spirit guide? ghost? what should i be looking for?

 

I don’t think meditation is just daydreaming. In meditation we try to concentrate our mind on an object. Controlling the mind is not an easy task. When we close our eyes, our brain makes some imagination. During this stage some visualization appears in our thoughts. That is not daydreaming. It is just a part of meditation.

 

when you start to have thoughts and visualizations youre supposed to let them go and breathe them out in meditation, so your mind is free and clear of all thoughts. Thats where you enter into the fourth dimension, or whatever you want to call it.

 

so am I training myself to be in the fourth dimension or not letting go lol
hard for me to tell

 

not lettng go? All you have to do is clear your minds of all thoughts easy.

 

Meditation is not daydreaming.

Is this woman you 'see' a daydream or are you doing some sort of inner dream quest?

If the answer is no then are you experiencing claravoyance?

All other possibilities excluded, and say that you are tapping into a frequency then you should know something about the 'skydancers-' the dakini.

The dakini is the finest relative realm. One shouldn't mistake them for human as they are very subtle mechanics of manifestation ability which we anthropomorphise.

If you study the systems I have then this next thing would mean something - Chhandas=Dakini. Maybe someday.

You are a man and having dreams of woman, which says at very least that you are in tune with the feminine. That's a good thing.

Please describe what type of meditation you are doing.

 

Well i'm not totally set on whether i'm daydreaming or "dream questing" it certainly seems more the latter. I start it as a relaxed meditation and the only time I see her is when i am relaxed. When I am with her I feel like I am at home. I'm not sure if it is clairvoyance, but of who? can you be clairvoyant without knowing the person? She certainly has been telling me alot about what is going to happen or what is happening. She works in colors and lets me know what colors I will be seeing within the next hour that pertain to my questions and and trying to find things that can be lost or that people have put out for me to notice. One time I awoke easter morning to see her on my bed in a bright yellow dress. Later that hour I was looking through my closet at my moms house which I never go in because I live in another town I found a bright yellow shirt that she had placed in the closet the night before for me to wear that easter day!
Also I was walking one day with my girlfriend and noticed that this lady was wearing a black dress and thought it was interesting. So the next hill we went over we discovered the entire valley was devastated by a forest fire and burned black to the ground.

I really like reading about the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakini
The symbolic meaning of dakini certainly seems like it is her energy.

 

I've always wondered about that. I don't really get the whole thing, but I like to get stoned after a work out and do a bit of yoga and I can feel the Kundulini energy as they call it and all that.

But all this talk about freeing your mind and transcending reality and feeling like you are dissolving into the fabric of space and time and all that jazz- just go to sleep and have a dream. Isn't it the same thing?

 

Kundalini may be all, but not all is kundalini. Flowing energy during mental sessions is shakti, or the power of thought, often during meditation techniques the energy of thought, is separated from the usual object of thought and so the more sensitive will note that energy. It doesn't mean that that is the same thing as kundalini.

On the other hand if one has had kundalini experience true and proper then all that one experiences is kundalini and none other. This is the path of the Shakta. The one who recognizes the power byeyond thought as supreme to thought itself.


The contents of ones mind are not separate from the things which one experiences and the ground of all thought is at one and the same time the same ground as all things. Thus even daydreams can resemble the things of life. In fact, it's probable that the greater unification of right and left brain hemispheres which occurs during daydream is closer to reality than any amount of rational thought or theorizing. There is not much difference between daydream, stoned daydreams and night dreams.

But is this meditation? Not unless you're doing so called 'astral' or 'spirit guided' meditations. In which case observing daydreams is a big part of the process. People often confuse astral travelling and etheric body travelling. We all astral travel constantly. Our imagination is our astral body travelling through the astral planes. In some instances the travel concurs more truely between mind and physical, and at other instances they are more remote.

Some people are already untethered from their body and their entire nervous system can shake loose. Those very few people can move their etheric bodies away from the physical. This is not something which all people can learn. Some people are more integrated into the physical, which is really what we are here to be. And those who are into the physical which requires mind-body coordination are usually the last to have out of body experiences.

I was taught during my early years of meditation training that OOBE weren't good. That it was better to live in ones physical container. OOBE do not prove or disprove life after death or anything. Because one still has a body and subtle mental phenomenon are continuing even when OOB.

Many people teach that meditation is the spiritualization of the physical plane. This is an essential teaching of the kundalini adept.

On the other hand, some systems of meditation believe that the physical place and spiritual are one and the same by virtue of no distinct separation being affirmable. Which is the reality of things. Each thing defines another and nothing exists in a vacuum.

 

I really enjoy reading the post chodpa made about astral travel being an aspect of our imagination. I never thought that imagination was a "form" (?) of astral travel! Is astral travel real? I would say about half of my spirit guide visions are placed in locations I heavily travel in the woods on a monthly basis and the other half are locations that are half made up and have a tone of locations I have been.