Is smoking marijuana in front of your kids child abuse?

Discussion in 'Cannabis Activism' started by ProudAtheist32490, Sep 11, 2009.

  1. ProudAtheist32490

    ProudAtheist32490 Member

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kssS_TEeQfU&feature=related


    I just found this movie on youtube of the show "O'Reilly Factor" on Fox News. Bill O'Reily argues with the author of a book called "It's Just a Plant" and he absolutely goes off on this guy for wanting to legalize it. The author says to O'Reilly "There are 6 million parents in America who use Marijuana" and O'Reilly goes as far to say "Oh, that's Child abuse if they do that in front of their own children." That is so ridiculous- a parent smoking a little weed every now and then isn't going to have some detrimental effect on their child.
     
  2. deleted

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    i dont think anyone should smoke weed, tobacco and even turkey in front of their kids..
     
  3. rollingalong

    rollingalong Banned

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    i wonder what bill would think about smoking WITH your kids as i do and many others on this site also do....besides bill is one of the biggest assholes that i have yet witnessed on this earth
     
  4. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    It's not child abuse but it's not always a recommended thing to do either. Depends on the children and the situation in my opinion.
     
  5. Death

    Death Grim Reaper Lifetime Supporter

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    There's a middle ground somewhere in between both of those fucks.

    that's where i fall.
     
  6. DdC

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    Only idiots like O'Really would make such a bogus claim that educating kids is the same as providing them pot or toking around them. Sick kids like Jeffrey do better using Ganja than Pharmaceuticals and therefore it is no different than white powders medicinally. Re-Creationally its not physically harmful, short or long term. But historically it does seem to provoke questions in kids. Rebellion maybe. Not good for an institution relying on blind obedience and one answer tests. Truth doesn't always jive with curriculum. Answering Columbus discovered Indians might flunk the test. So I'd advise to get the diploma first, then score the job without piss quizzes and buy a house to toke in peace.

    childrens book - "just a plant"

    Pediatrics: W.A.M.M. has been documenting the use of medical marijuana for young people with multiple behavior disorders. A report on this subject will come out shortly. For now, please read the articles below regarding one of WAMM's patients.

    Jeffrey's Journey

    "There are no long lasting ill-effects from the acute use of marijuana and no fatalities have ever been recorded ... there seems to be growing agreement within the medical community, at least, that marijuana does not directly cause criminal behaviour, juvenile delinquency, sexual excitement, or addiction."
    ~ Dr J. H. Jaffe, The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics.
    L.Goodman and A Gillman, 3rd edn. 1965.


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  7. rollingalong

    rollingalong Banned

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    one of my kids is older than you...the other is a teenager....
     
  8. MaryJBlaze

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    smoking weed or anything in front of small impressionable children is one thing, smoking with/around older teenagers/adults is another thing...

    i dont agree with smoking in front of kids, let them make the choice(with out your influence) when they are mature and responsible enough to do so.
     
  9. rollingalong

    rollingalong Banned

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    exactly what i did..and as soon as i found out i told my kid he didnt have to hide it..i have enough problems,i dont need the cops pickin my kid up at the park for weed...i prefer he do it in his bedroom
     
  10. MaryJBlaze

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    i feel ya on that....and when my sons are old enough to understand and make their own decisions, if they wanna smoke weed- they best be sharing with me:cheers2:
     
  11. rollingalong

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    :cheers2:
     
  12. GregTheMagician

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    That author definatly held his own. I've seen Bill O'Reilly destroy some people, but that guy was excellent and he knew his stuff.

    O'Reilly is a complete asshole anyway, and his claim that smokin marijuanna in front of kids is child abuse is rediculous.
     
  13. deleted

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    I have a couple asshole friends that smoke weed around their kids (11&15yrold)..
    once was at their house and there was 5 or more Vicodans just sitting on the table..
    and they dont even live in a trailer..
     
  14. MasterKush421

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    Not even its not child abuse i never smoked in front of kids but its not abusing them your not hurting them or nothing
     
  15. waukegan

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    it's not abuse.i wasn't able to get away with it though.after work it was fun spending time with the family doing other things.i couldn't really afford it either at least the kids wouldn't see it that way.now that they're grown and i'm single again i can smoke up anytime.except when the grandkids are over.kids can seem pretty annoying when i'm high anyway...but i'm not against it .it worked out just fine for some families i know.
     
  16. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Directly in front, why would you need to?

    Even if you just duck out to the garage, have a puff....
     
  17. rollingalong

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    i was at a friends house and she told someone to spark a doob as her newborn sat beside her in a baby seat....i quickly said lets go outside to which she said..''dont worry,we do it all the time''...i freaked ..i told her i didnt give one flying fuck what she did and that smoking anything in front of a baby was stupid and i would be leaving....her friends later thanked me as they were too chicken...apparantly she had a rep as bein a badass....
     
  18. strat

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    Don't smoke around young children, like five years or less, doesn't matter if it's cigs or herb. 5-10 years, just don't blow it in their face or something, and don't intentionally place them where you plan to be smoking. (If it is herb, don't let them know, they have a habit of telling everything to everybody)

    Don't smoke indoors where others will be inhaling your smoke, period. Doesn't matter what age, it is common curtesy and consideration. Unless you are in your room with the door shut to prevent the smoke from drifting about the house, because then only you have to deal with the smoke.

    In my opinion, the smoke is the issue, not necesarily what you are smoking. People drink and become intoxicated around their children all the time, people just try not to do it too often or be passed out drunk in front of their kids.
    What is abuse, (or at least it seems like it) is a drunk dad or mom smashing things around the house and yelling and flipping a bitch, even if it's not at the kids. It's even worse if it is in front of your stoned kid, even if you aren't yelling at him.

    So long as you aren't too stoned to complete common household tasks and take care of your family, then I see no issue with it. There are plenty of people who do wonderful jobs raising children and providing for a family, even though they toke.
     
  19. DdC

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    Wouldn't it be ironic if human families and tribes, for thousands of years in caves and tents breathing carbon emissions from the camp fires prevented cancer and lung damage by toking Ganja...

    Scythians High Plains Drifters
    From the seventh to first century BC the Scythian people travelled and settled extensively throughout Europe, the Mediterranean, Central Asia, and Russia, bringing their knowledge of the spiritual and practical uses for cannabis with them.

    Ancient Temple Hashish Incense...
    Did Jesus and the kids inhale?

    Blasphemy

    Dogooders paving the roads with good intentions, never watching where its leading. Thousands of years of organic tobacco from Indians to Sir Walter, Forefathers and Europe and no health problems until the same chemical poisoners crop-dusting Monsanto's various strengths of agent orange, aborting babies and contaminating water supplies and dirt kids are playing in. Same korpses adulterating organic tobacco after its planted. Sold by Ronnie Rayguns. For your pleasure, to make the smoke pure and white, oral gratification with every suck of the nippled filter. Chemicals to flavor, preserve and flame retardants and burn enhancers. Chemicals to keep it lit, hundreds added and never mentioned.

    Wall street's Spontaneous Abortionists

    So "progressives" can have their own profits prohibiting. Causing more house fires hiding. Causing the poor to buy generic with even more chemicals. More taxes for ER care sooner than later. No comparison to organic Ganja. But the professional liars still do. tsk tsk Tell the Truth and provide a place to exclude kids until this blight on society called the Ganjawar ends. Then Apothecaries can do it right. Cloning buds for patients, using what works. Consistent and quality assured, weighed and labeled for vital info. Re-Creational the same or from local growers. Educate the kids but Hemp has absolutely no business scheduled a #1 narcotic. Lies to kids backfire, lies to we the people explode. So many lies being exposed while the do goobers keep paving the roads...

    Cannabis is the best natural expectorant to clear the human lungs of smog, dust, and the phlegm associated with tobacco use.

    Marijuana smoke effectively dilates the airways of the lungs, the bronchi, opening them to allow more oxygen into the lungs. It is also the best natural dilator of the tiny airways of the lungs, the bronchial tubes...

    Jack Herer,
    The Emperor Wears No Clothes


    Jack Herer Electric Emperor

    “Taking a hit of marijuana has been known to stop a full blown asthma attack.”

    Asthma # Emphysema # Tumors
    LUNG CLEANER AND EXPECTORANT

    Cannabinoids Produced in The Human Body
    Endocannabinoids seem to play an important role in regulating inflammation processes.

    CANNABIS AND TOBACCO

    "Users in our matched-pair sample smoked marijuana in addition to as many tobacco cigarettes as did their matched non-using pairs. Yet their small airways were, if anything, a bit healthier than their matches. We must tentatively conclude either that marijuana has no harmful effect on such passages or that it actually offers some slight protection against harmful effects of tobacco smoke"
    Cannabis in Costa Rica:
    A Study of Chronic Marijuana Use; Institute of Human Issues.


    Bong Rips Cure Cancer? By Alex Hoffman
    CN Source: Daily Nexus October 07, 2008 USA

    Ganjawar Prevents Brain Tumor Treatment 04-02-2009
    US: Pot Shrinks Tumors; Government Knew In '74

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    JOHN WYETH & BROTHERS CANNABIS POWDER

    The audacity, trying to cure chemzoid profits...

    "Run from the Cure

    The Rick Simpson Story

    RUN FROM THE CURE
    The Rick Simpson Story (Part 1 of 7)

    Run From The Cure
    How Cannabis Cures Cancer And Why No One Knows
    by Rick Simpson (07 Mar, 2008)
    Cannabis sativa hemp, the miracle plant,
    contains the cure for cancer and other ailments


    Cannabis Compound Stops Spread of Breast Cancer
    Medical Research Study
    Cannabis cures cancer - how many more studies are needed?


    THC Kills Human Brain Tumor Cells
    SETH Group focusing on cancer treatment with THC

    The Cross Canada Crush Cancer Tour with Rick Simpson

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    PROTECT OUR CHILDREN -
    "They corrupt, seduce and or destroy our children."


    Dare has stranglehold on Drug education!
    Communities should have alternatives to using the DARE program, becuause of it's ineffectiveness. There are other programs out there infinitely more effective, but DARE has a stranglehold on drug education. DARE has, you stated contributed to increased drug use, and should be replaced with a more effective program. DARE gets some of it's funding from Pharmaceutical companies, so there lies a dubious fact.

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    Teens More Likely To Try Ganja After DEAthreats

    Think of the message being sent to the kids?

    Human Rights Watch has documented abominable conditions for children in detention in countries around the world. In the United States (Colorado, Georgia, Louisiana, and Maryland), Pakistan, Jamaica, among other countries, children are subjected to excessive force, inadequate medical and mental health care, and are provided with little or no education. Often, these children are placed in the facilities along side adults, exposing them to physical and sexual abuse.
    'Relax Your Muscles as Much as Possible'

    Despite all the problems with Ritalin, on August 3, 2000 the New York Times reported that the Food and Drug Administration has approved a 12-hour tablet form of the drug to treat ADHD. Called "Concerta," it can be taken in the morning to keep youngsters drugged all day, thereby avoiding the inconvenience of periodic trips to school nurses for medication (Ritalin requires two or three doses daily). "In tests of the drug," the Times noted, "the most common side effects were headaches. Less common were respiratory tract infection and stomachache." Perhaps the most serious side effect, that of conditioning for future illegal drug abuse, was not mentioned.
    ~ Robert W. Lee,
    Prescription for Addiction


    Politics of Pot

    Prenatal Marijuana Exposure and Neonatal Outcomes in Jamaica:
    An Ethnographic Study

    US TX: Column: Seeds vs. Suds

    Virtues' of Ganja

    Granny Storm Crow's MMJ List

    Cannabis Exposure Not Toxic To The Developing Brain

    A Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) survey of 1313 pregnant women found that 3.5 percent admitted to having seven or more drinks a week or bingeing on five or more drinks at one setting within the previous month. Fetal alcohol syndrome is a leading cause of mental retardation. continued...

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  20. dollyfizz

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    But your 'kids' are grown up. They're not kids. The clip is about a book reference at kids. Kids = small impressional children. If you smoke WITH your children who are old enough to make their own decisions then that's totally different.

    Death didn't call you a fuck, the two fucks are Bill O'Reilly and Ricardo Cortes.

    I personally think smoking around or with kids is a terrible idea. Some do see that it's child abuse and they have that opinion box you are intoxicating them with fumes when they don't have the ability to say no or to leave. I can understand why they think it's child abuse. I personally don't know if I'd go as far as to call it child abuse but I do think it's pretty stupid. Once the children are old enough to understand and make decisions for themselves then that's fine, it changes things totally.

    When I was 15/16 and stayed at my friends house her parents would roll us a joint before bed. We were old enough by then, her parents knew we liked it and we'd do it anyway. They were content with knowing that we were at home and safe, we never had to loiter a street corner or go somewhere strange we didn't know as many teenagers sadly do.
     

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