Islamic terrorists (Jihad)

I have read a few books and watched a few documentaries recently about islamice terrorists.

As you all know islam is actually a peaceful religion in the same way christianity is. In fact both religions started out as one and gradually split apart and went their own way.

The islamic terrorists that walk our world today preach from a very old version of islam and call themselves Jihads. From their old book (like christianity's old testament) they have formed themselves a nice set of rules for themselves to follow to justify their behaviour.

Anybody interested in reading the old testament because we all know there is crazy shit in that thing. We could all come with similar rules which would enable us to wage war against everyone else.

I bet someone is going to say George Bush has already read it.

 

Why there are Muslim terrorists?

1) Tyrannical regimes in the Islamic countries that oppress freedoms and rights.

2) Ignorance of the real teachings of Islam.

3) The American blind bias to israel.

4) The massacres that happen to the palestinians.

5) The occupation of Iraq.

 

Why is it terrorism when a Palestinian kills an Israeli, but it is a mistake when an Israeli empties his (american made) clip into the body of a 13 year old Palestinian girl (named Iman Al Hams)

 

Its neither terrorism nor a mistake. It is a war.

 

What most people don't understand is that the CIA and Mossad are behind the major terrorist networks. The networks have been infiltrated by the intelligence agencies and are manipulated to the benefit of the Elite, who need to create and maintain constant chaos and "terror" in order to create a justification for war and tyranny. Of course the terrorists don't know they're being used. That's because in the chain of command structure, everything is compartmentalized to assure that the real perpetrators are never exposed.

I am not saying that there aren't people that hate us for the things we've done, I guess I am simply trying to say that this "War on Terror" is largely manufactured - including the terrorism itself.

Islamist extremists did not play the major role in carrying out the 9/11 attacks, they simply served as a front. No, folks, bin Laden did not coordinate the attacks from a cave in Afghanistan, like the government and complicit media would have you believe. Islamists did not attack us on 9/11. Period. A rogue element within our government did. It can be proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that it was not 19 Arab hijackers that carried out the attacks on 9/11. Heck, 9 of these 19 hijackers are still alive and well in the Middle East today!

Every major enemy the U.S. has ever had was created by the U.S., not simply though exploitation, but deliberately, through funding and aid. We know that bin Laden is a long-time CIA asset, and that Saddam Hussein was supplied his chemical weapons by the United States. This is a fact!

It's called creating the best enemy money can buy, and it can all be thanked to the hard-earned money of U.S. taxpayers.

 

i hope your right

 

Israel/Palestine. England/Northern Ireland. Similarities in both cases.

I think the way we handled the IRA was wrong. Personally I'd have said, yeah you can have Northern Ireland back but you can't use our shipping lanes and there will be no trade between Northern Ireland and Britain. Also you can't use our airspace. Now to sell goods you have to go the long way round to Europe. Watch your sad little country deteriorate into a third world country. The IRA were scum.

The palestinians..... well, they way they are going about things isn't decent is it. You aren't going to get sympathy for your cause by killing innocent women and children. Fight the armies if you want to fight.

 

ummm, yes, then. we'll take it. no problems there. so when can i have my land back?

 

If you agree not to use our shipping lanes and airspace and accept there will be no trade you can have your land back today.

Do we have an accord. Gargh!!! (pirate style)

 

didnt those 2 towers remind you of a building being demolished with explosives in the basement? seemed very neat and tidy, compared to what it could have been. very neat and tidy indeed. remember the maine and the burning of the reichstag. history will show us the real bin ladens.

 

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I think the people who think the entire world is controlled by evil white people and jews in this thread are racists of a high order .

you seem to discount that anyone else in the world has a agenda, and being non white as you racists see them they are to lazy of themselves to carry out anything linked to that agenda . .

islamic terrorism is part of islam as been part of islam since it first started I just dont see that the cia and mossad has been around for over a thousand years , or have been that powerful in the islamic world for that long.

because the books and the history that people who actually become jihadis follow are that old and older .

for nearly 6 years Ive been posting on this site and Ive asked people who think its all controlled by the cia to actually talk to some people who support islamic terrorism , read the sort of books they read and try to understand them .

ask them why they believe they have to fight non muslims until they become muslims or slaves , why they believe martyres will get rewards , why they should not make friends with non muslims .
I could go on but in each case they will be able to back up their belief with scripture and islamic history .

Ive pointed all this out before, but I have no hope of any of you doing this as you are to narrow minded and happy with your own racist fantacy world .

 

of course. i hate planes and economics so shit yeah. get off my island now.

 

This is the same feeble argument used by the establishment to discredit anyone getting too close to the truth. You should get a job working for the ADL. They'd hire you in a second. To say a person is racist to suggest that secret societies and organizations control governments is completely ludicrous and totally unfounded. The Global Elite is not soley Jewish, and I don't subscribe to the idea that it is.

What is Islamic terrorism, though? Is it terrorism through conventional means and conventional weaponry, or alleged "extremist" hijackers crashing into highrise buildings on behalf of the orders of some guy living in a cave?

Nobody is denying that true Islamic terrorism exists at some level. Yes, they might blow themselves up or wage war using conventional weapons. But do I believe they are capable of carrying out spectacular, large-scale attacks such as we saw on 9/11, without outside help? No way!

 

I think jihad is a better term than islamic terrorism because jihad also includes conventional war with conventional weapons , as well as matyredom operations , and non violent efforts to islamise society .

yep it is possible that cia mossad could have carried out sept 11 , I could see them or anyone else carrying out a single terrorist attack but there have been at least 4000 major islamic terrorist attacks since sept 11 .

I just dont see them carrying out the majority of these attacks , and I dont discount that islamic groups of themselves could carry out a attack on the scale of sept 11 or bigger .

also I dont think that islamists are stupid they are quite capable of doing a big attack like sept and making it appear that your govement did it , islamists are very rich

 

add american blind support of the tyrannical regimes in the islamic countries when it suits 'em! justified with social-economic-politic-religious crap

 

"2) Ignorance of the real teachings of Islam."

which teachings are these
the teachings not to have christians and jews as friends ,
that you get rewards if your a martyre ,
that fighting is good for you even if you dont like it ,
a open ended command to fight non muslims .
jihad isnt some form of inner struggle its fighting non muslims thats why the blind and women are excused in the quran.
the example of mohammed fighting about 80-90 offensive battles in his life ,
his example of making people into slaves and then selling them ,
the rape of captive females ,
the last words of mohammed when he died to drive non muslims out of saudi arabia .

I could go on islamic jihad can be tracked back to mohammed and the early muslims, its been a religion of war against non muslims and between different sects inside islam since the start of the religion

as abu hamsa is saying in his defence of incitement to murder and racial hatred at the moment hes just qouted directly from islamic scripture .

 

jonny ..you come up with the same old shit, all the time ..and what it is ..is YOUR perspective of what you feel islam to be ..and you can't help but insult the prophet of islam each time. you are full of hate ..and for that, i pity you and your likes

 

an excerpt from the holy book
"...but when a decisive surah (explainin and orderin things) is sent down, and fightin is mentioned (ordained) therein, you will see those in whose hearts is a disease (of hypocrisy) lookin at you with a look of one faintin to death" - 47:20

 

Im not insulting him stoney

your own scripture says what type of man mohammed was

and I dont believe in a book that tells me not to take jews and christians as friends and to kill pagans which it says in the quran so whose the one with the hate .

all Im doing is pointing things out to non muslims who may not have taken the trouble to read these suras and haddith,and dont know what a nasty religion islam really is .

and I dont hold any hatred towards you , if I were you I would examine islamic scripture and see its false and leave it well alone, religion is a con , but its up to you what you do