I've noticed something....

there are always alot of posts here from girls who "think" they "might" have been raped. Not that I'm belittling these girls, there's just a LOT of them. There's at least one new one every week or two.

This is just an observation, no harm intended.

 

yes i have also observed this......and have also come to no conclusion ....for fear of making a conclusion

 

conclusions are BAAAD....someone will always jump on your ass about it no matter what you think. Not thinking is a lot safer, but far less interesting.

I think there are a lot of pig-men out there, and alot of young girlies who need to watch out for themselves a little more. Is that a bad thought?

 

I think you're prolably right, and I've noticed this too, without making a conclusion.

it's just whatever it is I think...

we're all gonna get negative reps now, huh?

 

i dont think we have stepped on toes...it's just observation....

pig-men yes, deffo, but young girls can have brains too...thats how i survived the trouble i got up to in my young teenaged yrs...

 

We can all thank babyfreak for starting this.

 

yeah, I've been in a similar situation twice, once when I was 14 and tripping on mushrooms at a friends house and woke up to find her older brother laying on top of me half naked and trying to get my pants down, and another time when I was 20 and managed to drink a pint of tequeila and lots of vodka by myself, passed out on the couch and woke up to find the gross old guy who had bought it for us with his hands down my pants messing with me. Both times I was able to stop it. I don't consider it rape....definitely unwanted and disgusting, but not rape.

What I really don't understand is why so many of these girls wake up to the same thing happening to them and they don't really stop it. I mean, if it's violent like he's holding you down or has a knife at your throat, or maybe you've just passed out to the point of not being able to wake up and notice something's not right the next morning, I can totally understand that. But if you've got friends around or at least other people (which is the story most of the time) and you wake up with some grubby guy messing with you but not being violent or forceful, couldn't you just yell or scream, or slap/bite/scratch/kick him or something? Surely if there are others around and they hear you calls for help, they're not just going to sit back and LET someone do that to you.

Not that I'm in any way BLAMING any girl that's gone through this, or saying that she somehow brought it on herself or caused it, I'm just saying I don't get it. Maybe I'm just willing to take less shit from sickos, or maybe those girls are just scared, I don't know.

 

i agree....i have had two simialr sitchos....one when i was 15 a guy my age and i were out in the bush drunk (everyone was running from cops) and i thought he was a friend and he had me pinned down on the ground trying to make me do things to him...i was pushing him off and thank fuck one of his friends was in the same hiding spot as us and crawled out and said "oi lets go"...

and last time was when i was 19 we got a new housemate and he liked me cos i would talk to him about atral plane projecting and other things... he came camping with a couple f my friends and when i passed out he tried to get on with me..i woke up with his hands up my shirt and stuff and got up...pulled the pillow from under his head and walked to the car and locked myself in it....wouldnt talk to him next day..he tried and i told him he had his two weeks notice...my kindof boyfriend went off at him and called him a perv and other shit... the asshole didnt even move out sooner...
pretty gross, but atleast i knew in my head where to draw the line....
i also have know people who have actually been raped and it is sad how much it affects their lives....i hate to see it used the wrong way (conversally)

 

different people react differently in situations, it's part of what evolution is based on

alot of my female friends have had trouble, some worse than others...that's probably why there's alot of posts about it. Generaly from younger people, due to reasons often due to their age, such as social life, but if you speak to older women they've often been through it.

 

So what are you saying ?.

 

mmmmmmmm just my two cents here but ,,, many a time young folks n not just limiting it to young folks but folks in general without much sense,,,, but many a time we put ourselves into situations where we are havin a good time,, tkaing this that whatever, drinkin up smoking up and start havin a fine ol time n not think anything more of it,,, then when reality sets in n we realize what the fawk we did,,we question it and try n find a way to make it sound better, look better on our own part,,,, where it then raises questions in our heads n then feel we have to justify said actions by bringing them out to others,,,,

then again there are also the piggish young bucks n real piggisn grown men that tend to get what they can when they can n it dont matter to them quite how they get it,,,, n havin a girl that is 3/4 innebriated or wasted on something just helps them along in their endeavors n yes tis wrong butttttttt these girls put themselves into said situation n dunno how to get outta them,,,,
then again there are times when yes there are truly just plain PIGS out there that do actually do shit like this and i can attest personally that prolly the one n only time i imagined i was havin some erotic dream i woke up to my father beginning to molest me but it was at the stage of sleep where it was hard to differentiate reality from sleep until ya wake up a bit more n go woahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what the fukkkkk is goin on,,,,
so theres lots of reasons why shit like that is posted,,, other than the wanting attention crap and lack of havin a real human to talk to or being embarrassed to talk to someone,,,, and then too the pathetic liars that are out there that just do cuz they aint got anything better to do than post shit here,,,,

 

I read what you said twice , and i agree completly..

 

i'm with dilli. if you're gonna get yourself all stupid on various chemicals, you gotta know shit like this could happen. and i've witnessed a couple of occaisions where the girl's willing, that is, until later. talk about your mixed signals. it's not fair. even if you're drunk, if you're smiling and going along, you can't call it rape later.

 

I wasn't really talking about the girls who are into it and then claim it was "rape" the next day because they regret it or don't want their parents/friends find out what they did. I cannot stand bitches like that. I guess that type of girl figures she'd get in trouble for getting drunk at a party and willingly have sex with a guy, so when mumsy and dadsy or Mr Boyfriend find out she claims it was rape to take the heat off herself. I knew a couple of skanks like that when I was younger.

But really, when I started this thread I was mostly just refering to the number of "was this considered rape?" threads that get started here. For now I'm going on the assumption that what they say happened did happen. And apparently it happens alot.

 

I know I'm going to get myself in shit for saying this, but I'm going to say it anyway. I think there's a lot of women (both online and offline) who cry wolf for attention. Yep that's right, I'm calling them attention whores. Like Moonshyne suggested, I think a lot of it is a case of buyer's remorse - or fear of being caught. But what pisses me off the most is that these people are taking attention away from women who were ACTUALLY raped, and lowering THEIR credibility. It's sad.

But also, to some of these girls who were raped or at least assaulted in some ways... I'm not *trying* to judge, but think of the situations you're putting yourselves in. I'm not saying you're asking for it, but I am saying that if you drink or use to the point that you're out of control, stuff is going to happen to you - maybe you don't choose to be assaulted, but you do choose what YOU do to your body and what kind of situation you put yourselves in. That's all.

Ok, so let the negative rep role in...come on, you know you want to. I'm just speaking the truth here, but I'm sure it's pissed off some of you.

 

A-T-T-E-N-T-I-O-N

 

I've always liked this saying..."If you have to ask, the answer is NO."

 

I understand what you're saying, but I disagree. Yes, ladies need to be more careful sometimes to avoid such situations, but if you're with other people, or even just one guy who you've known a while and are friends with him, this isn't the sort of thing you expect to happen. I've gotten so ripped before, and never had a second thought about it. The second situation I was in, with the old grubby guy trying to feel up on me, wasn't something I expected. My boyfriend at the time was there (he had puked earlier that night and in his drunk state didn't clean himself up very well and got vomit on our bedsheets, which is why I stayed on the couch) and his other 2 friends were there...in fact one of them was sitting in the chair across from the couch I was on. He told me later he thought something might be up, but he couldn't really tell because I had a blanket thrown over me and the old gross guy was sitting up down by my feet. As far as the old guy goes, he was someone my (now ex) boyfriend had known for like 10 years, like a family friend or something. I thought I was safe.

My point is you can't really say anything about a girl "putting herself in that situation" because from what I've read most of the time the guy is a friend or there are other friends around. I don't think that females should have to be the ones to hold ALL that responsibility and live their lives out as if it would somehow be their own fault that some guy couldn't keep his hands where they belong. Being drunk is not a reason or excuse to take advantage of someone.

I don't know, see, it's such an iffy subject.

I guess my biggest thing is, if you are able to do something about it, you shouldn't allow a dude to continue doing something like that. If he sees that you're awake and you're not doing anything to stop him, he might get the idea that it's okay, even though it's not. It might still be considered rape, but I think it's a rape that didn't have to happen.

 

I like that one to! You are a library of sayings, I see.

 

I bet you it's some guy trying to be funny. (Well you aren't.)