It is noteworthy that the Bible makes no mention of Jesus Christ between the ages of 18 to 30 . Jesus Christ lived in India between the ages of 18 to 30 . After crucifixion , he returned back to India where he lived in Kashmir till his death . This has been stated by the Indian spiritual masters Paramahamsa Yogananda , Satya Sai Baba, Osho and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. Jesus's teaching of chastity, non-violence, and renunciation were derived from Hinduism, Buddhism and Yoga. The proof for this can be obtained from the books 'Jesus lived in India' , written by a team of Western scholars and archaeologists and ' Hinduism and Christianity' by Sri Sri Ravi Shankar( the founder of the Art of Living Foundation).
Hare Krishna! From Niranjan..... Jesus's teaching of chastity, non-violence, and renunciation were derived from Hinduism, Buddhism and Yoga. Jesus was a born 'Avatar', He did not need to learn the basics from anybody else.
Well ,Rama was an avatar, and he did learn from both Vashistha and Vishwamitra. Ever heard of the Yoga Vasishta ! Yoga Vasishtha is an ancient scripture narrated by sage Vasistha to Rama. A unique and an extremely profound discourse, that provides innumerable insights and secrets to the inner world of consciousness . This extremely huge scripture covers all the topics that relate to the spiritual study of a seeker.
You're stating that Jesus lived in India as if this was established fact. It isn't...this idea is considered to be only speculation by many. True, nothing is known about his life from an early age...I always thought it was between 12 and 30...and that was plenty of time, even 2000 years ago, for him to have traveled to India, studied extensively there, and returned to the Middle East. I see this as plausible, because Jesus did teach principles of sanatana-dharma. However, the idea that he survived the crucifixion and reurned to India is farfetched IMO...an essential component of Jesus's mission was to demonstrate the illusory nature of death by resurrection from a state of true physical death in a spiritualized body, and then "ascending into Heaven" or entering the spiritual dimension.
Yes, the story is certainly not proven. There is also a legend that Jesus visited Britain as a youth in the company of Joseph of Arimathea. Personally, I think both are probably no more than legends.
And are there books with proofs from scholarly sources , as I mentioned above in my first post, to substantiate the legend that Jesus visited Britain!!
I really don't think so. It's just legend - there is absolutely zero evidence for it, like many christian myths which aren't in the Bible but were developed later. In fact, other then the Bible, there isn't a single scrap of evidence to show Jeus even existed. It's more a question of people wanting to show how great their particular country is because Jeus came there. I've heard the Mormons think he went to America too.
I would recommend looking at the creation of the roman silk road to the east and the activities of missionaries of Ashoka the Great (the first buddhist emperor of India). The foundations are clear and span hundreds of years prior to Jesus's teachings. Ashoka the great sent buddhist missionaries into the west in about 300bc. The expansion of the roman silk road allowed for unprecedented mixtures of cultures and Alexander's conquest into the east further drove the cultural mixing. Jesus is just the most obvious focal point for the hybridization of these two cultures. For example, Jesus quotes "Love thy neighbour". The Buddha himself in the Lalitavistaras, states ....... "Through love alone can hate be vanquished; through perfect love evil may be overcome … Speak no harsh words to your neighbour, and he will respond to you in like terms." It should be mentioned that the term 'neighbour' is clearly used by the Buddha. Another similarity of Jesus with the Buddha is that both had stated that one should reciprocate evil or injury with good and love. As Swami Vivekananda said, Jesus ,Buddha and LaoTse are the only prophets in the world who have stated that one should reciprocate evil or injury with love and good. This above teaching of Jesus is far removed from the ' eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth' teaching of Judaism , in which he was born . The teachings of chastity and renunciation too by Christ , is not found in Judaism, but are found in Buddhism and Hinduism. Also , Jesus's teaching of " I and my Father are one " is similar to the Upanishadic teachings of monism or pantheism. An example of this is the verse in the Upanishads ," Aham Brahmasmi ", which means " I am He". There are much more of these striking similarities in the books I have mentioned that are more than mere coincidences.
The thing is that you can find similarities in scriptures from all cultures if you look hard enough. It doesn't mean they had a common source - at least in terms of established religions etc. If there is a higher spiritual truth, you'd expect that there would be similarities in the way this is received by people in different times and places. There are similarities in the ancient Chinese I Ching and some Christian and Hindu doctrines too, and the spiritual teachings of the traditional Hopi Indians are also full of stuff which resonates with other religions - but I don't thnk it needs to be explained in terms of cultural influences etc. Incidentally, some say that Vaishnavism was influenced by Nestorian Christian missionaries working in India.
Well, I believe there are far more similarities between Jesus's teachings and the Hindu-Buddhist teachings, than between Jesus and other cultures. There is even a book published recently on the similarities between Jesus and Buddha's teachings , called 'Jesus and Buddha: The Parallel Sayings ' . And I don't think that these similarities are entirely coincidental. And I think most people would come to the same conclusion after a study of the books I have mentioned in my first post in this thread. Here is an another striking similarity between Hinduism and Christianity. Christianity has a trinity of God, in the form of Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Hinduism too has a trinity in the form of Vishnu, Brahma and Shiva. The Puranas and hindu scriputures state that Vishnu is the father of Brahma, as Brahma is said to have come from Vishnus navel . So we have a Father and Son in the form of Vishnua and Brahma. That leaves us with the third element of the Hindu trinity, Shiva, the Lord of Destruction. An another name for Shiva is Bhootanath, which is the sanskrit name meaning ' Holy Ghost '. Bhoota in sanskrit and other Indian languages clearly means ghost. So here we have a Father , Son, and Holy Ghost, in the Hindu trinity as well , which is strikingly similar to the Father, Son and Holy Ghost of Christianity. All this is clearly presented in detail in Sri Sri Ravi Shankar's 'Hinduism and Christianity'. Well, I must say that the worship of Krishna was prevalent in India before the birth of Christ himself. And this has been recorded by Greeks at the time of Alexander's conquest of northern India, which clearly precedes the birth of Christ. But I must say that the dogmatism of Iskcon is very similar to christianity. I wouldn't argue with that.
The Hinu and Christian trinities are quite different in meaning, as I'm sure you know. You could also mention the Buddhist doctrine of the Tri-Kaya or 3 bodies, another trinity, but again, with an entirely different meaning. Although more similar to the Christain than the Hindu trinity. The Chinese seem to have a trinty too in yin yang and Tao. The ancient Jewish Kabbala or mystical doctrine also contains the idea of a trinity, but again, it doesn't have the identical meaning to that of other religions. As to possible nestorain influences on Vaishnavism - I'm not saying it's correct, but some scholars do say so. There's no doubt that a lot of Vaishnavism goes back probably only to the middle ages in the form in which it now exists, so it is possible they may have had an influence.
Well, I see similarities between the Christian trinity and the Hindu trinity. According to wikipedia........ Shiva is believed to be a formless, timeless and spaceless Supreme God. Adi Shankara interpreted the name Shiva as meaning "one who purifies everyone by the utterance of his name" or "the pure one", as such the name Shiva is considered the holiest of holy names. Shiva is beyond and unaffected by the three gunas (characteristics) of Prakrti (matter/nature) namely Satva, Rajas, and Tamas. This is very similar to the charecterisation of Holy Ghost which I have read.
But some regard Shiva as the supreme deity - the ultimate absolute. Vaishnavas regard both Brahma and Shiva as demi-gods, not equal to Krishna or Vishnu. They think of Vishnu as 'the father', whilst to fit into the christian scheme Krishna and Christ would seem to be more similar. In my opinion, there is much more resonance between the Buddhist tri-kaya doctrine and the christian trinty. Dharma Kaya - the supreme, formless and unembodied pure Buddha nature. God the Fther Sambhogya Kaya - the Dhyanai Buddhas etc - same as the Hindu gods. Holy Spirit Nirmana Kaya - the incarnate Buddhas such as Gautama. Christ. Even here the parallelism isn't exact. Anyway I've got to grt going presently - I'll get back to this tommorrow. Regards - BBB.
The Shaivas regard Shiva as the supreme deity , while the Vaishnavas see Vishnu as the supreme deity. However most Hindu scriptures and sects give equal importance to all three. Both Rama and Krishna , in the Ramayana and Mahabharatha , respectively worships Shiva . The same with Parashurama. It should also be mentioned that while Shiva, Brahma and Vishnu are distinct from each other, they are also the aspects of Brahman, the supreme impersonal Lord, and hence Shiva , Brahma and Vishnu are also one and the same. Here is an excerpt from an article in a Hindu website. Destruction and creation go hand in hand. They are like two sides of a coin. For example, the destruction of morning is creation of noon and the destruction of noon is creation of night. This chain of continuous destruction and construction maintains the day. Similarly, the destruction of childhood is the creation of youth and the destruction of youth the creation of old age. In this process of birth and death the individual is maintained. Hence the three gods of the Trinity viz. Brahma, Vishnu and Siva representing creation, maintenance and destruction, are essentially one and the same. The above idea is well portrayed in Lord Dattatreya, in whose form the three gods are combined. Dattatreya has the three faces of Brahma, Vishnu and Siva to indicate that the three principles for which they stand are inseparable. Lord Dattatreya is shown with four dogs following him. The four dogs represent the four Vedas. A dog is one of the most faithful animals in the world and it follows its master in all environments and circumstances. So, too, the Vedas are said to follow a man-of-Realisation in the sense that all his actions, thoughts and desires are in perfect accord with the principles enunciated in the Vedic textbooks. And this is what Wikipedia has to state about the Christian trinity........... In Christianity, the doctrine of the Trinity states that God is one being who exists, simultaneously and eternally, as a mutual indwelling of three persons: the Father, the Son (incarnate as Jesus of Nazareth), and the Holy Spirit. Since the 4th century, in both Eastern and Western Christianity, this doctrine has been stated as "one God in three persons," all three of whom, as distinct and co-eternal persons, are of one indivisible Divine essence, a simple being.
In my view, God the Father has to be equated with Brahman to make the correlation work You can then say that all the forms - Vishnu, Shiva, Brahma etc are aspects of God the Son, and the localized, internal paramatman is the Holy Ghost. What is missing here is any conception of the Goddess or Shakti.
back to the topic, there is no evidence that jesus or his disciples or anywhere in the christian tradition to eat with your right hand or wipe your butt with your left hand and so therefore it is highly unlikely jesus was ever in india
And how is that logical! Brahman is impersonal. Hence I believe that God the Father has to be equated with Vishnu. Shakti worship or mother worship is prevalent in India . Perhaps this could explain the reason why many Christians pray to the Virgin Mary. This too is presented in detail in Sri Sri Ravi Shankar's "Hinduism and Christianity."
Must say that your 'logic ' is a bit idiotic. I don't think Jesus was a pedant and gave much attention to these details as you mentioned above, as they do not have anything to do with spirituality.
<<<join me in creating a new God...the old one isn't doing too good of a job >>> Ever heard of Aham Brahmasmi meaning "I am He." Stand up and manifest the divinity within you. --Swami Vivekananda
Christians don't actually pray to Mary - they ask her to intercede, as per all the saints. And actually, it is only catholic and orthodox who pray to saints. Protestants reject such practices. Is god the father personal? Only in the exoteric populist view I'd say.