Jesus was a great guy

Jesus was a really great guy, and you know why? Because he said you should love your neibhor (sp?). That means you love them reguardless of who they are, or what they have done. He didn't say "view thy neibhor in thee eyes of god!" now did he? I see so many so called "christians" who are extremely judgemental, and hate gays and all kind of people. I just can't believe those hypocrites.

Edit: What are the eyes of god anyway? Shouldn't you just leave the judging to god, and take care of your own business? I mean, if somebody wants to "go to hell" why don't you let them?

 

Humbling; good word, thank you.



David

 

I've probably said this elsewhere, but I'll say it again: This is what was meant in the Ten Commandments when referring to taking the Lord's name in vain.

 

There is a HUGE difference between judging and correcting. 2 Timothy 3:16 states, "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness." The phrase has been said numerous times, however, it is true. "Love the sinner, hate the sin." It is possible to love another without condoning their actions. If someone was to slip and fall away from God, showing love would be to hold onto them. If you saw a friend in danger, you would help, correct? You would not simply sit on the sidelines and watch them destruct. "Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently." (Galatians 6:1)


The scripture specifically states that we are witnesses to the gospel. We are to spread the word of Christ. "Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins" (James 5:20). Caring merely about your own salvation means that you are not loving your neighbor, as stated. "Love your neighbor as yourself." If you love yourself enough to be saved, then you must spread the word to others. Sefishness is not of God.

 

So basically if your neibhor is gay this means you should make them ungay? No way, I think that is fucked up. You shouldn't be saving somebody from something you aren't even sure exists, it ruins their life which you are sure exists.

And being gay shouldn't be considered a sin.

Knowlegde over belief.

 

You're correct to some degree by saying that some of those who have embraced christian fundamentalism have had past experiences which were horrific, including substance abuse or abuse in a relationship. Sometimes such people are just weak-willed as well. These people view religion not as an inspiration but as a crutch. With so many fundamentalist preachers seeming to offer simple answers to many complex life issues, it is easy to understand why such folks embrace such doctrine and dogma.

For some, this may be a positive change-at least from a personal perspective. Unfortunately, many of these people feel that because they have had their lives changed by their 'conversion' that others should follow their path as well. They buy into alot of the subtle intimidation tactics that preachers 'feed' them and feel that because their acquaintences may not feel as they do that they should follow the same 'spiritual' path or 'suffer the consequences' upon death.

Because so many preachers-particularly from a fundamentalist perspective- take scripture literally and often times out of context and with so many of their followers buying into what the preacher says without questioning it, it is easy to see why the true message becomes compromised. I can appreciate your anger, but your judgements and strong statements (some might even say cheapshots) are not productive in winning over anyone. It is also unwise to judge. You have to answer these people's shortsightedness by providing logic and principled responses.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/christ.htm

 

Actually, the decision is ultimately up to the person themselves. No one can force another to believe in something they do not. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head in the situtation. Man made religion has ruined many lives. However, there is a difference between, "religion", and true faith.

I am sorry you feel that way. I suppose you should take that up with the Lord.

I have both knowledge and beliefs, and my beliefs have won over my worldly knowledge each and every time. There are many people who can testify to my words.

 

Don't kiss the thorns babe.

 

explain, please.
Jesus wasnt even his name, so by using the word Jesus to refer to him is sin too then, right?

 

i think jesus used the frankinsence & mirh to cover up the smell of the ganja he smoked..jesus was a hippy & probly had dreads too

 

I hope everyone burns in hell. I like hell.

Bet I didn't. My comments are way over your head... whooosh...


fuckin quote slashes and stfffff////

 

Then he probably used the frankinsence & mirh to cover up.. what the fuck, let's just call it petrouli... anyway, he used it to cover up the smell of his dreads.. and that's why he smoked weed too- it's not like a true spiritual man needs a drug to get high- they are always high.

 

What taking the Lord's name in vain origionally meant was that you do not commit an act of evil and say that "the Lord commanded me to do this" or state that someone is "going to hell" because of an act they committed or because they're a 'non-believer' or state that "what God hates, so do I".
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_10c7.htm

The name 'Jesus' was a greek translation of the name 'Yeshua', I believe.

 

Ohh, but they are.

Ahh, so you remember the etymological root of my name.

 

Jesus was a hypocrite. He preached one thing and practiced two different things.

He failed to condemn slavery, insulted and threatened those who disagreed with his philosophy, and used violence and a weapon (a whip) when he was angry.

Boo Jesus!!

 

Sound's like a good guy to me.

 

I'm not so sure I understand what 'born-again' means. I first heard this term about twenty-four years ago and I've never gotten a straight answer from anyone as to what it means.

Again, 'christian version of God's word' is arguably a relative term. Fundamentalists may have one interpretation as to what this means, other folks another.

Well, I've been accused of "manipulating God's word". Examples: http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103126&page=2
In the eyes of many of the preachers, they feel that they are doing "the Lord's work" by promoting such doctrine. Some of these individuals don't know any better. They may have had (a) negative life experience/s and see religion as the way to cope with their ordeal/s. Others, particularly preachers and their sympathizers, may likely have a personal agenda to promote.

Sadly, this is true! Unfortunately, This type of "religious elitism" has prevailed through the ages.

Your kind words are appreciated. FTR, if your interested in learning a little more as to how Christianity has been manipulated as well as other information of interest, may I suggest the websites below. These may not provide all the information that you might want and you may not agree with all of what is stated, but they should provide some interesting insight.
http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/godsreligion/p/aa082499.htm
http://www.americanunitarian.org/mianoarius.htm
http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/mo...=article&sid=48-Keep in mind this site has a fundamentalist bent. Take it with a grain of salt.
http://www.christian-universalism.com/
http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/uc/wuf.html

 

because many don't know that they're going to hell, which ain't a pretty place. And I don't know of a single Christian that hates gays, if so, you're right, he's a hypocrite.

 

There is no hell. That's all spooky bullshit designed to keep the minions in line.

 

If I am following you correctly, you are saying that individuals hate homosexuals, not Christians as a whole. This I could agree with.

Besides that there are real practical, prudent, wise reasons why such things as same sex marriages must not be socially accepted. I commented on this in my The Axis Of Evil Bush Did Not Talk About thread. One thing that I never mentioned at that thread was that many people who claim to be homosexual are actually heterosexual. They are in fact heterophobic because of bad experiences with people of the opposite sex. Also read my comments in reply to the confused thread, started by another forum member here. I hate repeating myself. Later.