Joe the Welfare King

Wow, what a revelation.

The guy famous for being against the redistribution of wealth would be homeless if not for the handouts he took.

If america has one thing in spades, it is hypocrisy.

 

I want to believe you, but I want you to document your assertions, so that I can use them in future arguments.

 

look it up.

it's all over the news, by the way. he has not denied the veracity of it.

or did you want me to document american hypocrisy?

 

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977500983

 

Joe the Plumber is the Welfare King of Red America. Mrs. Family Values herself has a pregnant, and unmarried teenage daughter. It is fun to watch the GOP go down in smoke and flames as the crowd laughs. :hat::cheers2:

 

I would feel out of place not offering an alternative point of view, so I will suggest that maybe Joe would not have had to use the welfare program if he was able to keep more of his income, instead of paying into the system that funds welfare programs. Sorry, couldn't help it.

 

yeah wacky, good one!

if it weren't for taxes, incompetent blowhards would all be rich!

lmfao

 

And if it wasn't for welfare, Obama may never have talked to Joe in front of his house. Joe might be living in a box.

 

see that's the thing. when you love your country and your fellow man you don't require loyalty before providing someone with dignity.

 

1. Joe told Fox News he has been on welfare twice. It made all the national media.

2. Before he confronted Obama on the street in Toledo (?) and told him he's not voting for him (after which Obama still took an unusual amount of time to stop, talk to Joe with respect, and explain to him his ideas for tax code revisions), Joe had already been on local conservative talk radio shows. It was portrayed as this chance meeting by a resident who just happened to speak up, but by the time he met Obama, Joe had already begun his crusade.

Perhaps he confronted Obama on his own. Perhaps he was encouraged to do this. I haven't heard the radio interview so it's hard to tell.

 

Let me get this straight ~

if someone needs help, gets help, and it actually helps them,

they are hypocrites, 'cuz they were helped by the system that is already in place.

What should his parents have done, MJ?

You don't think they might deserve just a bit of your respect,

for keeping their family together.

How many years did they pay into the system that helped them?

(Oh! That's right! You can't be bothered with sources, can you? Well, unless someone ELSE says something ~ then, sources become ALL IMPORTANT, eh?)

You may not understand this, but some folks actually do pull themselves up by their bootstaps ~ they have nothing, they get help, and they build on the help until they have something. People who work their heinies off for something, don't want to have that something threatened.

Cripes, why do i even bother? You know nothing of working for anything ~ you can't even get a job with some sort of insurance coverage for your wife, whom you admittedly left in dire straits, until she actually keeled over, before you could think of parting with your hard earned dollars.

 

Joe is not a hypocrite because he needed help when he was having financial trouble. That's exactly why our country has social (note the word "social") programs like unemployment and Medicaid and food stamps. We don't want any of our citizens to have to suffer. Sometimes families fall on hard times, and they need help. It's our duty to help them, and the way we do it is pretty efficient. We have government programs where everyone pitches in, and that creates a safety net. It's the moral thing to do (and it's ... watchout! a socialist idea!) Boo!

No, Joe is a hypocrite because he benefited from this safety net, then attacked publicly a man who wants to reverse the looting and destruction of this safety net that Republicans have effected over the past 8 years, leaving millions of good Americans suffering and scared for their families. Joe is a hypocrite because he faked this righteous indignation about something that fed his children. He cried "socialist" and he has no idea what the hell he's talking about. He's a liar, and a phony. And he has been exposed for what he is. His 15 minutes are up.

Here's the Fox News interview for your source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnK84mM5N-o

 

Are we talking about him being on state work-for-welfare or federal unemployment insurance?

Because lots of tradesmen go on unemployment insurance throughout their careers. I mean, going on that type of assistance makes sense if you have been working 10 years straight and then all of the sudden your plant burns down or something let's say, or you get laid off because you're a landscaper by trade and it's winter.

 

Irrelevant, according to Joe ... It's all government assistance. It's all socialism. It's all elitist/socialist/commie/Marxist liberals "redistributing the wealth."

But it's the responsible thing for a government to do if it cares about its citizens. Joe is lucky that he lives in a country that has a safety net for him when he needs help providing for his family. Yet now that he doesn't need it, he attacks those who do. Definition: Hypocrite.

Plumber Joe to Fox: Was it patriotic for Joe Biden to say "take my money and give it to other people? That's patriotism?

Yes Joe, it is. Patriots helped you in your time of need. You can help too. You better pay your taxes first (he owes more than $1,000) or you may be homeless. Then you're certain to be labeled "lazy" and undeserving of my money.

I would publicly humiliate you. I would start by pointing out that you're not even a licensed plumber. I would hate you without even knowing you and I would publicly attack politicians who want to help you.

Actually, I wouldn't do that. I try to have compassion.

 

Joe the white trash media piñata. lol

 

I find it amusing that there is a lengthy wikipedia article about him:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_the_plumber

Interestingly as well real_large (ok that's a strange enough username), the Conservative right-wing Big Whigs belonging to those parties were the groups that implemented the concept of state funded social assistance when they came to power.

It's amusing that the neo-conservative parties today harp on it, when less than a century ago in most cases they were the parties who pushed for it.

 

i don't know what cabbage truck you just rolled off the backend of, but our system of 'Helping" is anything BUT "pretty efficient!' i can buy food stamps from welfare recipients for 50¢ on the dollar, so the food stamps obviously aren't getting to the children they were meant for; senior citizens are going without meds, without utilities, and without food; our VETERANS are left with no medical coverage, which they were PROMISED when they enlisted; we have homeless people wandering the streets, and eating garbage ~

THAT would be the 'moral thing' to do, actually HELP folks that need it, and STOP just throwing money at folks that have made it their Job to figure out how to 'do' the system.

NO ONE wants to stop helping ~ but ALL of us should be demanding an accounting of just where our helpful dollars are actually going. If MOST of those dollars are going towards maintaining the system structure, rather than to the people that need the assistance, there's something bad the matter. And thinking that just grabbing more monies from a certain economic class of society is neither efficient, fair, nor in the best interests of the needy.

And that's where, IMHO, y'all lose the bubble ~ instead of focusing on the person that brought up the question, why can't you see that a valid question stands on its OWN merits?

Another thing you might not have considered is that old Joe SAW, FIRST HAND, how the 'help' could actually help; at the same time, he probably was introduced to the other side of the coin, where the 'help' was considered an Entitlement.

And here's the thing ~ if Obama is going to bring all this Change, EVERYONE needs to be able to voice their opinions about what the Changes should address, don't you think?

 

are you sure you aren't lying or delusional?

paper food stamps have been phased out for quite some time. I just double checked and this is also the case in texas.

 

Texas has had Credit Card food stamps for a while; do you really think that that stops ANYONE from selling or purchasing them???

WAKE UP, MJ!!!

(It's already pretty obviouls who lies and is delusional, and unfortunately for you, it isn't me...)

 

Please refrain from using insults, Fyrenza.