Judge says Parents can't teach pagan beliefs

This made me so mad when I read it!

Judge: Parents can't teach pagan beliefs | IndyStar.com

 

thats absolute bullshit!! grr

 

i live in indianapolis and i agree thats bullshit. I'm ashamed of my state

 

The judge says it would confuse the kid, attending parochial school as a pagan. Since when is it up to the government how we raise our kids, and what will and will not confuse them?

Anyways, this is definitely irritating, but they will certainly win the appeal, so not to worry.

 

Why would a pagan family send their child to a Catholic school?


Ah well that's irrelevant, the whole thing is totally fucking stupid.
Seperation of church and state
Or has someone cancelled that without use noticing.

 

yeah thast what pissed me off about it... its not the governments decision on what religion parents should teach their kids... no matter what school they go to. Maybe the parents thought he would get a better education at a catholic school... even though his religion is different.

 

Actually that ruling by Judge Bradford took place in May of this year and the ruling was eventually struck down by the Indiana Court of Appeals (date unknown). It would really help if I could get to the Indystar website but the link above as well as the ones on Yahoo and Google all time out. Smells of conspiracy...

Anyway, this was all started by the investigative arm of the office of domestic relations, an office of the state that is tasked with mediating child support and child-rearing issues between divorced parents with the strict purpose of keeping these issues OUT of the courtroom. As a single parent for over 10 years, I can tell you that their mission statement is bullshit. Their true mission is to inflate their caseload with asinine crap such as this to perpetuate their own jobs and budgets. Whenever I have an issue with child support or even a change of address, and present myself to our DR office they always pull the file and call out my ex-wife's name because, as we all know, men are incapable of rearing children.

 

Jones has brought the case before the Indiana Court of Appeals, with help from the Indiana Civil Liberties Union was all the info that I could find. Glad to hear that it was struck down. Now my question is how much suffering did the parents have to go through and how much tax money was spent because some fool in a black robe did not understand the Bill of Rights.

 

The father is pagan. The mother is pagan. How can paganism become an issue in such a case?

 

Because the child attends a parochial school. In the state's eyes, that creates a confusing environment for the child.

Imagine, spend all day hearing about Jesus and then go home to Cernunnos and Camulos.

 

Well thats kinda how it is for me...

 

One could make a case that it is the parochial school that is confusing the child by contradicting what the child hears at home. If the parochial school wanted to do so, they could probably refuse to admit any students not of their faith because of a potential "confusion."

And let's face it, lots of children are confused by lots of things. It seems to go with being a child.

 

You're absolutely correct, SD. That case could be made, but it wouldn't stand up in a court case because 1) it's a parochial school and they sent the child there by choice for a better education and 2) it's a parochial school and since "God" is on our money and in our constitution, some judges (this one for instance) seem to think that He is the ONLY god that matters.

 

Yeah that is just so stupid.

Can say one thing for the perhaps overly politically correct policy of the British government; at least they butt out, and err on the side of not offending.

Maybe it is confusing, but I'm sure the parents can sort that out. There's no need for a judge who doesn't know them properly to decide if it's an issue, what does he know?

Good thing it was thrown out, just proves how stupid it is.

 

Scary. I've heard worse, but that's frightening enough. I hadn't heard about that case, thanks for posting it.

 

You don't have to be Catholic to go to Catholic school. The only real difference between a Catholic school and a public school is that the classes are smaller and they push you harder on Math and English really early on. Yeah, they do have bible classes, but a lot of the time, they're optional. They're really expensive, but then, all private schools are.

I just don't understand how being a Wiccan can cause confussion for a Catholic School student. The worst that would happen is he gets made fun of a bit- well, kids do that to eachother.

 

How would it be different from an atheist, jew or moslim attending a catholic school? In some areas you just don't have that many schools to chose from and if one is best in academics then parents could just chose to send their kids there regardless of the religion. My parents were non-believers and I attended a catholic school for that reason... the public school near my home sorta sucked in general. No one complained it would be 'confusing' for me, but then they seem to overreact like that only when paganism is concerned... so many people still believe it's devil worship no matter how many times you tell them different.

 

They need to scream "DISCRIMINATION! RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION! What about the 14th amendment? Why can't we teach our son wicca because wicca isn't a "mainstream" religion?

Its oppression of the minority, in this case its wicca. That law is unconstitutional. They should appeal, and it would probably be accepted by the supreme court (if it didn't get solved before then).

They should just appeal directly to the supreme court of the U.S. because their state court has people who haven't read the constitution in it.

Anyways, how the hell is the government going to regulate what they do and don't teach their kid in the privacy of their own home? Are they going to install video cameras or something?

If their appeal never gets excepted they should just practice civil disobediance and teach their son wicca in their house... nobodys going to care or do anything, and if they do, then it would really make a case.

 

green, dude, calm down and breathe a little. i agree it's an outrage, but it was overturned, because it's a blatant case of discrimintation.

 

and people wonder why christianity ticks me off,,
anyway pretty much everything is confusing when your nine
i wonder if this guy is gonna get reelected