Karma with no creator

I dont understand how someone could believe in Karma but not God. If you dont believe in God, then you basically believe this universe was created at random and accidental. How can you believe in something as big as karma, but at the same time see this AMAZING earth we live in and believe all of it came out at random?

The bottom line of my whole point, "How can there be a karma without anything controlling it/making it happen IF this world is just here randomly"?

Im stoned and i thought of this question, help me out.

 

god isnt "random and accidental" ?

karma is about your being and aura, not about some guy sitting in the clouds looking down on you

 

Well im just saying there needs to be something controlling this karma. Aura and being? Where did aura and being come from then? There MUST be a source to all this, so i put my faith in God.

 

well, the same question could be applied to god... where did it come from?

 

exactly..

how can aura and being just not exist as entities within a person themselves?

why does there have to be a greater being residing as a governing body?

god is signpost, and religion is a crutch

 

All i know is that this isnt it, after this life on earth we will be home again.

To answer your question, i believe theres been a God ever since...anything. We live to die, to be with him again.

Just some private thoughts from yours truely.

 

so you belive, that your physcial body, the one which u enhabt now, will some how magically re-apear in this "heaven" yet the one on this world will be rotting in the ground being aten by worms?

 

not that I don't respect your beliefs, but how did you come to this conclusion?

 

Why do you think it has to be a being?

Atheism and karma does not mix, otherwise there is no way karma could work because, like smokindude stated, something has to control it.

 

I still don't get why something would have to control it.

 

RangerDanger comes to mind off the top of my head. I just dont understand it.

 

WHY DOES SOMTHING HAVE TO CONTROL KARMA?!?

who's to say the universe itself does not align in proper formation due to good deeds done and rightousness [non-reglious] provided by the example?

who's to say the entire universe itself is not conspiring for the events in your life to occur?

how can u use a "definate" answer for anything relating to god??

where does fate come in to play??

a prime example are the degenerate gamblers who sit down at slot machines for 2 hours, losing every dime they have

then, the second they get up, an old lady sits down and on the next pull of the machine wins 100,000$

then the degenerate says "oh..if only i had stayed that money should be mine"

NO..no it wouldnt be, because things were not aligned for that to occur, it was not meant to happen, therefor it didnt

is this god?

 

How would it align in proper formation without an active force (which would be its God, by definition) to cause it to do so?

This is one of those debates we have the capability to answer, but cannot delve into our minds deep enough yet to answer. For now, questions can't be answered without another question arising.

 

couldn't agree more.

people who speak of some higher entity with any sort of conviction need a strong dose of Kierkegaard.

 

How does the universe decide which acts are bad?

If you lie to a friend, and say they looked good but they really look ugly, is that good or bad karma? Who decides this?

 

Well, I've never understood Kierkegaard's views on doubt and God. How the hell would doubting him make you a stronger believer? It is contradictory.

 

I don't think anyone is capable of answering this. but then I think religion and atheism are equally groundless. people usually don't even know who they themselves are, but still feel qualified to give definite answers to things they could never begin to comprehend.

 

All I know is we are what we are. But the rest, I can believe, not know.

 

not quite. he just acknowledged that the whole point of faith is that you have no proof, but still devote yourself to revering a god. religion doesn't lend itself to deep examination, because when you look at it close up it falls apart. real faith means you give up the entire notion that there could be no god; you take it's existance as a given. hence, "the leap".

 

my understanding is that nothing "decides", just that the general path one takes in life and how they affect the world around them will begat how they are, in turn, affected. I don't think it's a quid-pro-quo kinda thing.