Ketamine questions

Well I'm going to be doing a K-hole dose tomorrow night, and I was wondering a few last things.

Is there any danger of asphyxiation (choking on your own vomit)? It seems like that could very well happen since some people get nausea on it.

When your in the K-hole, do you know that you're in a k hole and that it is all drug induced? Or are you not even able to comprehend what a K hole is?

And lastly, though I was told that you DO NOT get any ego loss from ketamine, apparently the mental effects are extremely similar to DXM and I've definitely gotten ego loss even on 3rd plateau trips. Has anyone experienced ego loss from ketamine?

Thanks.

 

I never had any fear of asphyxiation, though I'm sure it's possible with heavy doses.
I didn't fully realize I was in the hole until I looked back on the experience the next day.
Something definitely happens to your ego, but I wouldn't call it ego loss...really have no way of describing that feeling, but I can say that I liked it lol.

 

ketamine does very strange things to my self perception, more so than any other drug i've done... a lot of times i feel like this reality was peeled away and that i've been "overlooking" something really important that hits me full force on k... everything daily fades and i usually get a sense that i'm some cosmic, powerful eternal force... to be honest it's more egotistical than ego loss and i get very god-oriented delusions that i get drawn into... drugs become irrelevant to me so i wouldn't say that it's all that easy to tell myself i'm on a drug. it is, in a way, a lot like high dose DXM trips in the sense that the same principles seem to apply about being aware that you're on a drug and all that. if you know what high dose DXM experiences are like then ketamine shouldn't be a *huge* surprise, although naturally they are two different drugs so it won't be exactly alike.

as far as asphyxiation on your vomit... i could see that being a concern but personally, i get nauseas but i've never vomited while totally under the effects (only 2+ hours after dosing or so). someone else can answer that concern better than me i'm sure.

 

Yeah I did a 25 mg dose, which brought on a nicely intense 2nd plateau dxm feeling, but not that sick feeling that dxm has. I didn't get any nausea then.

I'm thinking of doing a 100 mg dose to guarantee k hole but not go too far where I get amnesia.

To avoid asphyxiation, it would probably be good to avoid eating 5 hours before it, but we all know how much it sucks when your nauseous but you CANT puke cause you don't have any food in your stomach. But I imagine ketamine wouldn't make you THAT nauseous though. Does anyone know how they prevent people who are getting surgery from asphyxiating?

 

well IM ketamine wouldn't nauseate you, which is what they'd use in a medical setting... it's only when you swallow it. if you can avoid swallowing the drip then you'll be perfectly fine. it's just that i have trouble getting it from my throat and spitting it out (lol) so i just swallow the nasty chemicals and that's what makes you nauseas, not the drug itself if that makes sense.

also, 100mg won't give you a k-hole dose. i actually enjoy k the most at exactly this dose because it's not quite such a heavy trip but it's still VERY nice and floaty/euphoric, and it's beautiful to just close your eyes and lie in bed with the lights off.

if you definitely want to k hole you should go for 200mg all at once (within a minute or two, doesn't have to be one line)

but ketamine is easy to play around with dose-wise so you should start with 100mg and adjust accordingly.

 

there is no way in hell youre going to choke on your vomit and die from a 100mg dose. thats like being worried that 5 beers will make you choke on vomit and die

in the VERY UNLIKELY event that you actually vomit (VERY UNLIKELY, you body is COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN IN A K HOLE, INCLUDING VOMIT, I LIKE CAPS), you will still have no problem moving yourself or even getting up and running to the bathroom, albeit clumsily

 

Seriously? I thought that at a K hole you couldn't respond to any extrenal stimuli? From what you and everyone described. I guess I'll see tomorrow night

And yes, 100 mg would definitely give me a K hole. I'm very sensitive to this and dxm, considering that 25 mg gave me a very intense dxm like buzz, and that 300 mg of dxm will easily give me a 3rd plateau trip.

Is the come up at all anxiety-ridden like it is with DPT?

 

dude, unless you weigh like 70 pounds, 100 mg of K [nasal, idk about IV or IM] isn't going to give you a full K hole, though you'll probably get something like it. you'll certainly still be self aware [i was still somewhat self aware at a nasal dose of ~350 mg the other night] but it's just skewed.

in my experience, i've been "aware that there as a person called 'me'", but just not that person.

i wanna hear about your trip though!

 

damn you are lucky if it only takes you 100mg to khole, i tried it for the first time last night and i did 100mg it was wicked fun but i knew what was going on pretty much the whole time. but w/e im gonna get some more

 

100 mg got me nowhere near a k hole, but now that I have 2 needles, it probably would injected IM

 

good point haha, have fun man and i want a report as how the needles went, personally i wont use them (im deathly afraid of them) but i just want to know

 

I don't have any anxiety during the come up at all compared to something like DPT. As far as external stimuli...it depends. I've done it mostly by myself, but did more than I was intending at a friends house and I was completely out of it(according to him) even though my eyes were still open. He was yelling at me/tapping me and I didn't respond.

 

yeah i didnt hve any anxiety when i tried my 100mg dose, it just started to hit me

 

Gonna be insuffulating 200 mg next weekend, the proper way (by snorting softly, unlike all other times where I would snort as hard as possible and keep on trying to suck the drip down my throat). Will report in a new thread in the RC forum, as I think thats where K threads should go.