Killer Oil Using Butane

I read about this method of making oil on the internet back in '95 or so, and I'll never do it any other way again! Even if you don't like oil, I would suggest trying this method. The quality of oil it produces is better than honey oil, I shit you not. Also, you can process a Lb of pot into oil in less than 1 hour, ready to smoke. Furthermore, if you process bud, you can take the used buds out and smoke them still, and they are still very potent, especially the bottom portion (even better than originally!).

I'm describing it here because as far as I know it's not a well known method, and it should be.

I've made butane oil many times and the product looks like vegetable oil when you spread it on a paper and heat it up. It's very similar to honey oil, slightly lighter golden color. Extremely pure.

What you need:
A 2ft long section of 2in PVC pipe
1 2in PVC cap
Round coffee filters (the frilly ones)
Duct Tape
Bottles of butane (the regular size, larger bottles. I think they are 16oz)
A glass or metal dish at least 1 litre in size. A bowl is preferable, since it has no corners.

Making the butane filter:
Step 1.
Drill a hole in the cap just large enough for the last section of the butane nozzle to fit through *only to the first ridge on the nozzle* *IMPORTANT*. You need to be able to depress the nozzle, and you won't be able to do that if the hole is too large. The hole should be between 1/8 and 3/16". Match the size of the drill bit to the end of the nozzle.

Step 2.
Tape a coffee filter over one end of the PVC pipe using the duct tape. make sure the duct tape is actually stuck to the PVC as well as the coffee filter, and you haven't just clamped the filter with the duct tape or it will come off.

Processing the oil:
Step 1.
Put up to 1/4 Lb of leaf, shake or bud into the pipe. Do not stuff it in. It needs to be loose. You can fill the pipe, but in my experience you will get better results if you only process about 2 to 3oz at a time using the size of butane bottles I described.

Step 2.
Put the cap on the open end of the pipe.

Step 3.
*DO THIS OUTSIDE!*
Make sure you do this outside since you are dispensing a whole can of butane in a very short time. If yer gonna smoke around the process, you should be 10 feet away.

Step 4.
Holding the filter over the bowl, empty the cannister of butane into the PVC pipe through the hole in the cap. It should take about 3 minutes to dispense the whole can. You will know when you don't hear it discharging anymore. Keep the bottle depressed against the cap for 1 more additional minute after you stop hearing the butane, so that any pressure left in the pipe has a chance to filter out. Scrape off as much of the oil as you can that is still stuck to the filter.

The oil should start coming out of the filter within 10 seconds of applying the butane. It will be really frothy golden color.

In the bowl, the liquid will boil rapidly without applying any heat. As the oil gets thicker, keep stirring it to release any butane that gets trapped. After about 15 minutes, most of the butane will be evaporated and you can bring it inside and/or smoke it at this point. The more you stir it, and the longer you let it sit, the oil will just keep getting thicker.

I've made butane oil outside, in the middle of winter and it still boiled vigorously. Pretty neat.

Spread some on a paper, add some green, roll it up, light it and watch the paper become invisible as you toke!

Regardless if you use leaf, shake or bud. The quality of the oil should be pretty much the same. You will just get alot less oil if you use leaf compared to bud. The better quality the product you put in, the more oil you will get out.

Don't throw out your used organic! You can reprocess the organic to get another 25% to 100% more oil! If you used leaf, it might not be worth wasting the butane for a second run.

Alternately, you can save the organic and smoke it. I like to use bud or good trim, and I will save the bottom half of what I put into the PVC pipe. It works out I get about 3 to 5g of deadly oil plus about 1oz of super sticky bud out of an original 2 to 3oz.

I like to freeze the pot first before I make oil, as I beleive this helps the butane to remove the crystals more effectively and also helps to keep the crystals from sticking to the pot as it gets filtered down. As far as I know, the whole process works because of the cold temperature of the liquid butane. (You can use propane too or any similar compressed gas)

I've even made oil with a spoiled batch of moldy pot that stunk of ammonia!

 

I used to make ice water hash and ISO oil regularly and tho I never personaly made BHO I can safely say that I would never try and smoke anything I'v done an extraction on. If theyrs anything left in the material get it out with more solvent but dont smoke the waste. The way you described the extraction was prety acurate but just dont smoke the waste when your done. Blessins on Ya Brudda. and Stay safe.

 

Butane and other compressed gases will evaporate at less than 0 degrees celcius.
There won't be any residue. There is no risk of being poisoned I assure you.
The article where I got the instructions from was quite scientific and described in technical detail how the process works. Butane will evaporate at something like -20 celcius.

Isopropyl is much worse for you. Even industrial grade isopropyl has additives which are toxic. It also has to be cooked out so there is always going to be residue. If you will use a solvent, you should use ether or ethyl alcohol.

Butane just has an odorant additive, so you can smell it.

I think if you tried making it, you would prolly think differently.

 

I never made it myself but my boy did a fyew times on my porch. Im familar with the teck. I just chose ISO and ice water hash over it. I got nothin against the teck if its done rite and with the proper butaine. I just disagree with smokin the spent material. I dont dispute that the butaine evaps off, what I contend is that it prolly sits residually in the solid waste product that you consume when you smoke the material left over in the tube after a butaine extraction. Just smoke the product left over in your plate after the butaine evaps off, discard the waste product . I know the butaine evaps off in the plate but I think it leaves a residue in the buds you used to make the oil with. Throwem away! And another thing. Iso evaps off clean, it leaves NO residue when evapt completely. I dont know what you meen by "cooked" when you speak of iso extractions, theres no "cookin" involved whith a Quick wash Iso extraction and its completely free of any residue from iso. Iso leaves no residue when evapt rite. Ethyls not suitable as a solvent when makin oil, if its drinkin grade from the liquor store it has a sugar content that wont evap off completely and ya dont wanna be smokin sugar its slightly carcinogenic when burnt. If ya get the ethyl from the drug store its no good either, its denatured and will leave a poisonous residue. Not tryinna be critical but please consider these things . Blessins

 

Regardless of what solvent you use, you need to use industrial grade. Consumer grade chemicals always have additives. Most people just get iso or ethyl from the local store though. Ether is much harder to get and is extremely flammable.

There is no residue for the butane to leave behind. There is one chemical additive which serves as an odorant which makes butane smell like 'butane' and it is harmless. Same thing as propane. They are both odourless gases.
Even if you are still worried about the odorant. Consider that the purpose of the odorant is to make the butane smell, and then consider that the used product doesn't smell like butane, and it should be elementary. One of the primary reasons why I was originally intrigued by the method is because butane doesn't leave any residuals and it's easily obtainable.

Regardless, you are entitled to your opinion and your caution is healthy

If you really are worried about residuals, you shouldn't be processing your pot at all.
It doesn't matter what chemical you use and how well it evaporates, as long as it is liquid the oil will have gas trapped in it, in larger amounts than would be residual in the product when dry.

I referred to cooking the iso, as most people I know that make iso oil will heat it on a hotplate or at least on a double boiler type setup with the bowl of iso in a larger bowl of hot water to speed up the process.

If you've tried butane oil, i'm curious why you would prefer iso oil?

 

Im not afraid of residuals at all, the way I made hash and oil left none to wory about. I also believe that the BHO produced from a BHO extraction is without impurities left from the extraction. What Im sayin is that I think its wrong to smoke the butain soaked waste buds. I think what you have left over in the tube should be thrown away. All the BHO threads I'v read on various sites in the past all advise the maker of the product to throw the buds/material you'v extracted from away. I dont think you can expect the butaine to evaporate out of the plant mater compleatly like you can expect it to evap off a plate of oil. Im sayin I dont think its healthy to consume anything that has been soaked in butaine. I think some residual butaine will get stuck in the used up plant mater wherass I dont think theres any left over when ya evap it off an open plate of oil and butaine. and I liked the ISO oil beter because I like the solid texture. Actually I like ice water hash best of all .

 

and 70+% ISO from the drugstore works fine.

 

What? No way. You've totally blown your argument now
70% iso may 'work', but it WILL leave toxic residuals. Not enough to harm you but certainly enough to affect the taste and smell of the product. Why do you think oil made with solvent tastes/smells/looks so different from hash oil? It's not because of the chlorophyl. If it were the chlorophyl, it woud just taste 'green'. If the only residual were water, the oil would taste and smell the same as hash oil. It can be filtered really well, but I will still taste like 'iso oil'. I've had some really good honey oil and cherry oil and while it was very tasty, it didn't taste like hash oil. Ever.
All hash oil tastes/smells/looks the same, no matter how you make it. At least any method I've tried.

Even 99% iso is denatured. It is specifically made to be toxic and taste bad, so that drunken bums don't go buy a litre for $5 and end up with alcohol poisoning.

Ether is the only pure alcohol as far as I know, and that is the reason why it is so hard to get.

Drinking alcohol won't leave residues, other than flavourings, but it has a high water content, which is hard to boil off. And it's expensive.

 

IN light of your concern, I searched the internet for article about the butane method and I found this:

[Erowid Note: Some concern has been expressed about the possibility of a PVC residue in the final product. This has not been verified, but a possible solution would be to use steel instead. Some reliable chemists have stated that PVC should be resistant to butane, but a preliminary flush of the PVC to remove any residue left from production might be warranted.]

That note was added to the article in Jan/2006, so it's not out of date.
And I beleive that Erowid is a reputable site.

I beleive this is what you were referring to. Not residual from the butane itself, but residuals from the PVC. That is a legitimate concern, but can be easily dealt with by cleaning the tube first, and running the process through once first. You could also boil it to release the plastic toxins. If you are still concerned that the butane might be extracting toxins from the PVC, then you can use a different material, like steel, as suggested.

I would worry about all the plastic your food is stored in before I worried about a small amount being smoked though.

 

See what ya get if ya just evap ISO in a pan by itself, nothin. It leaves no res. ISO aint denatured, ethyl is. And when ya say ethyl dont leave res except for flavours and shitt its goofey cause thats just what were talkin bout, res. When I made ISO oil I tasted my Herb in it. If you get close enoughf you can taste the Herb the oil is made from in the oil. The ISO evaps off compleatly, its cut with nothing but water. I find your thinkin to be way flawed on these maters and I think Im rite in mosta what I told ya but If you wanna go an smoke your butane soaked waste buds and tell me that you think I get too much residuals in my ISO hash Im just gonna figure your a poser. I figure most Folks will too. Thats just fukkin insane, industrial grade iso.. bBWWWAAA HAaaa haa! Please stop the posin. Do a li'l readin bout solvents and youl know why its a bad idea to tell people that its good to smoke the waste product left over from a butane extraction. That in itself should be enoughf to discourage people from takin you seriously. I aint arguin but theres just too much misinformatin here not to be addressed. Your givin bad advice where ya said its ok to smoke the waste product left over from a butaine extraction and I wouldnt want anyone actually doin it. Pluss alot of the crapp ya said bout iso and ethyl is off. Bums dont wanna drink the iso they wannet to drink the ethyl rubbin alcohol so the govt puts a denaturer in it so they cant drink it. No one should EVER use ethyl from a drugstore, its denatured. If ya wanna use everclear youl get a sugar res that burns slightly carcinogenic. Thats cool if ya wanna eat your oil but who the fukk wants to do that? If ya keep postin misinformation it'l prolly get addressed.

 

I've been making oil for over 15 years, I do know what I'm talking about.
ISO DOES HAVE ADDITIVES. It is NOT 100% isopropoyl. YOU CANNNOT BUY 100% isopropyl. You are right though, it's not denatured, I was mistaken.

I think you need to read more SCIENTIFIC information instead of listening to a bunch of other potheads.

You are right to suggest that I should be more informed, we ALL should. Which is why I took the effort to try to justify my assertions with fact and corraborative evidence. You have not. You are making assumptions based on hearsay from other people who made assumptions based on hearsay. Don't beleive everything other people tell you, but it is wise to listen and investigate for yourself.
If you don't understand the principles of chemistry that is unfortunate for you.
I didn't guarantee anybody that the waste product wouldn't contain any residuals in the first place anyways. I agreed with your caution and concern, what more do you want!? A frigging hero sandwich?

I DO KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
And you are beginning to insult me now.
Please leave my thread alone you troll.

 

ISO has water in it as I stated before. 70% ISO is 70% iso and 30% water, 91% ISO is 91% ISO and 9% water, 50% ISO is 50% ISO and 50 % water. Duh. Whacha worried bout, water residue? If ya look at my first post all I said was that its not a good idea to smoke your waste and I stated that I like ISO oil and water hash beter, your the one who started babblin fiktishious bullshitt bout solvents. Anyone who needs to shout out in caps "I DO KNOW WHAT IM TALKIN BOUT" prolly dont. The "Principals of Chemistry" should tell ya not to smoke butaine soaked waste buds. Now THAT sounds like a pothead thing to do. Fukk off ya poser. I spotted ya and I call ya. -Poser. I wouldnt even bother with ya except I wouldnt wanna see kids do what your supposin.

 

Prove it then, if you are so sure. Instead of spouting of useless opinions and bashing me. Try making some constructive arguments and showing some investigative evidence. Name calling isn't going to resolve anything or help anyone, so if you have nothing more to bitch about, why don't you contribute some useful information that might actually be able to discredit what I'm saying?

 

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=107760&page=6

 

I just use a 500 ml water bottle, and a coffee filter (or very fine screen, have been likin usin a bubblebag as the screen)

with goood trim makes ultra crispy *snow* oil..



you scrape its like crumbled potato chip

Nothin Beats Bho ...really...

ya should try the bottle less trouble and at least for me more yield than pvc

its white if you press it like that but when melted it takes very light yellow color , and then if you budder it its like beige play doh, unforgettable texture man

 

Do you find that it tastes like finger-hash/rub ? MMM! Yummy! I love that flavour

 

hehe I usually only smoke the stuff at night and split about 0.1 in two bong hits , so the taste isnt very pleasing at this concentration ;p ... but in a pipe damn tastes good, though I dont find it quite like hash , quite a taste of its own.

the smell is amazing though especially when very fresh its like weed odor at pine sol intensity, i love it

I use to make alot iso oil but found out this is more for low or normal quality stuff...cuz with bho and almost bud like leaf would get even more yield than iso, and a product 2 times as strong...and lets say it iso oil smells and tastes like shit

 

'Finger-Hash' or 'Rub' is not really hash.

It doesn't taste like pressed hash, and actually I dont' think it's as pure, but it's unaltered, and the small amounts of organics in it gives it a wicked flavour and smell, and the high is different. I like it much better. It's a knock ya on yer ass high, not a swimming in your head high.

In case you are wondering, (I'll call it rub from now on to save confusion) rub is what ya get when you take a huge pile of freshly cured buds, and trim it with scissors. All kinds of crystals and red hairs and stuff gets caked on your fingers. After a while it get's really thick (fingerprints of the stuff where each might weight 1/3gram or more), and ya rub it off and save it. When yer done trimming a pound, you will have several grams, and it's so damn good. *DROOL*

There is nothing else like it. I don't think I have ever seen it for sale. It would be very expensive it it were, since the way it's made never produces alot. Everybody I know cherishes it like gold anyways. They wouldn't dream of selling it even if they had an ounce.

You can create what I guess you might call immitation rub, by using a coffee grinder or bud buster, and collecting all the crystally stuff that collects in the corners of the grinder. It's usually got alot more junk in it though, less pure, less tasty, but similar.
Another way would be to just collect crystals and red hairs form the bottom of the bag, if the weed is dusty enough.

You could also make rub by running naked through a pot field and then rubbing all the sticky stuff off your body and collecting it

Sorry if you already knew that, but it sounded like you thought I meant brick/pressed hash, like goldseal or the likes.

If you have never tried rub, I would recommend trying to find some. It'll blow your socks off, and your appreciation for weed will never be the same. At least I think so.
BHO oil is pretty close though. Maybe better, but it doesn't have quite the same kick.

 

haha my gfs father would take semi wet trim and rub it in longjohns. The crystals should collect on the pants. I didnt see him do it, only the pants in his bag of trim, but he showed me the product..damn this was black in the exterior and almost white inside, bubbled and melted like crazy. Rubbing can be quite fucked up even if its an old ass method ;p

bho for the potency though is better in my opinon, buyt the two have a very worth high

 

Just wanna say i have just started makin this killer oil the last month or so.....and i have to say i am very impressed,see i made my oil from pure leaf and stalk grinded up,about 1/4 pound to a half pound den using my 18 inch pvc pipe with coffee filter on one end and capped on the other,now i run three cans of butane threw the extracter size of my cans were 220g for net weight,now after the last can is ran threw i have water boiling on the side i take my pyrex bowl with the butane mixture in itand place it in a bigger plastic tub then i pour the water all around the bowl,i find you get all the butane out this way...i usally repeat the boiling process twice unless i am jonsing,...and for my final result i usally get 2.5 to 5 grams of oil depending on the quality of the leaf i put in i so far made three batches this year i mean from three different grows and from each one i got different results,,,but i was using straight leaf and stalk all times,this harfest i am gonna try your way nickle with the bud see what i can come up with thank you for the post man i always like reading this shit man:X