Yea, even a first timer would probably feel nothing from 15mg. I dont take any less than 60, preferably 120-180 makes me comfortable. And sorry if Im annoying you, if I am then ignore me ok?
Oh yea I forgot about that. Yup, generic OxyContin Still, they are the same drug, but oxycodone is lame haha. I mean, its alright but only worth it if nothing else is available.
I can barely tell the difference between oxy and any other opiates ive taken, except suboxone and the very sad lortabs, vicodin, etc..and thats because I just didnt feel them. All in all, oxy, heroin, methadone, morphine, fentanyl, dilaudid..all really, basically feels the same.
I dont know Leslie, I can definitley feel the differences in all of them. Like even you said, the Thebaine derived ops make you talkitive over the morphine derived ops. Simple things like that are very evident to me
Buprenorphine (suboxone),loratabs, vicodin all feel the same to me, too. Fentanyl is the strongest to me. Never had dilaudid before, but I have had all the others, and fentanyl, to me, is the strongest.
Yeah I enjoyed the fentanyl but I went way too far out on it. I notice subtle difference between the opiates, but the overall feeling to me is exactly the same with each and every one of them. Im not a heroin addict. Or a methadone addict, or an oxy addict or morphine addict..im an opiate addict. I do any of them because they all pretty much give me the same feeling.
Indeed. Yay for forum hijackers. Wait, what was the forum about? Oh, Tramdols. It's an Opiate. So, we didn't really hijack it. Only a little.
it's ok. you can hijack as much as you like , I already got the answer I was looking for lol. anyway I didnt fully understand wether that report on erowid was pure bullshit, meaning that tramadol and ssri DONT actually do shit when combined or was I just lucky to vomit the trams before the got in my system?
Sometimes Errowid can be pure bullshit. Other times, they do state the facts. And Tramadols are very, very weak Opiates. They don't even deserve to be Opiates, they are so weak. So, if you took a few, you're fine. Even if you took more than a few, you're fine.
what about the SSRI interaction with tramadol? does it reall cause SS? So I can know if it's safe for me take trams while on antidepressants...
Well, I don't know why that happened to you. Are you on anti-depressants because you need them? Or because your parents/family think you need them? If you are on anti-depressants for real, genuine depression, you're fine. Because Opiates don't make people depressed. So, you should be fine. But I'm not a doctor, I just know a few things here & there.
I am on anti depressants because I need em anyway that's not the point I'm merely asking wether it's true that taking tramadol while on anti depressants causes sertonin syndrome which can be deadly. I am not asking wether or not opiates will worsen my depression...
well i didnt read the 8 goddamn pages of text, just the OP. this experience just lends creedence to my own personal belief.....FUCK PILLS i mean that in regard to your depression as well. i was very depressed for about a year and a half and the only real way to beat it is will power or counseling. i beat it by force of will alone and i suggest the same for anyone else. taking anti-depressants just makes you dependant on them for a good mood. im not saying to just stop taking them cold since that shock will probably make you feel absolutely horrible, but ween yourself off the stuff man! there might be some factor in your life thats making you feel this way. you should take a look at your life (this includes your past and plans for the future) and think what could and is making you feel sad and worthless. from there try to change that thing or things and see if you improve any. hell, i still have days where that old familiar feeling raises its ugly head, but it dosent stay long at all. heres a few tips that help keep me from wallowing in sorrow as i like to put it: -avoid triggers (ie things that make you feel bad) and when you cant, think about something else, dont dwell on bad shit -stay active. i cant stress this one enough, an idle, depressed mind is bound to start thinking about how horrible the world is. -HAVE FUN! this kinda goes with the second point i suppose. do things that you enjoy and when you arent, think about when youre gonna do those things next and plan out some enjoyable activities. i think what im trying to get at here is, the more good things you have to look foward to, the less depressed youll be (works for me anyway)
well I didnt want this turn about my depression, anyway if you wanna know...it's not a really depression... it's social anxiety disorder which as a consequence caused a mild depression... still the real problem is the social anxiety. SSRI also have the ability to minimize panic attack I would normally get in social situations. and no I absolutly cant make it with will power alone.