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Is anyone else keeping up with this,

or am i REALLY the Lone Ranger, out here?

 

i saw the supreme court was hearing another motion of some sort january 19 i believe it was..

didnt pay attention to the details though. not like anything will come of it..

is that what your referring to?

 

Yep. It appears that they are going to discuss it the day AFTER Obama is inaugurated, and what's up with THAT?

i wish folks could understand that it isn't about Obama,

it's about our Constitution, and whether we're willing to just toss it aside,

because once we do,

we won't have any rights...

Until they're all rewritten, that is.

And no one even seems to care.

Amazing.

 

Oh we would care, except that we've already figured out that the case is a complete joke.

 

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im not convinced its a joke..

i just dont believe anything will come of it.

i would be convinced if someone would produce the actual documents in question for review by a impartial expert. so far to my knowledge that has not happened.

 

That's a fantastic quote. We have the US constitution taped to our wall in front of the door (ever since our house was illegally raided by cops a year ago), and I was truly excited about the Obama presidency until this stuff...It really sounds creepy the more you think about it. Not to mention, it's NOT fair. There are probably tons of very competent naturalized citizens out there who could do the same job just as well, if not better, who never got that chance. So why should he be the exception? And why the hell do they not check this shit before they even run? Hello?

 

Hillary being appointed Sec. of State was unconstitutional, but everyone is just pooh-pooh'ing that, also.

 

I determined months ago that Obama is not a natural born citizen. The reasons are too numerous to list. Then I realized it doesn't make any difference at this point and is pointless to keep going on about. The powers that be want him in power and will do everything in their might to keep him there. Besides, whether a president is natural born or not takes a backseat to the fact the presidents are simply puppets to begin with and ultimately run nothing.

 

I think Hiptastic is right.Whether people like Obama or not he is President for the next 4 years.And if you don't like him you have the Bush administration to blame.In a way you can look at it this way if there was no Bush administration, Obama would never have been elected.

 

imho, if there was no internet, Obama would never have been elected.

And i actually do agree with y'all ~ it's probably moot.

But in case it's just a test, to see if we actually will blind ourselves to what we are giving up, i want to be on record as saying that i won't. It DOES matter to me. i want some say in what happens.

*** btw, in this age of computers, there is no good reason that those of us who choose to keep ourselves connected shouldn't have a say/vote in EVERY SINGLE THING our particular governmental chain-of-command folks have on the table.

Think about this for a minute:

Really.

How DARE our "PUBILCLY" Elected Representatives demand PRIVACY??? Once they decided to run, they GAVE UP ANY EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY, public AND/OR personal.

For any government body to decide ANYTHING without the consent of, and in some cases, against the wishes of, the majority of the people they represent, "for their own good,"

is a sure signal that something is badly amiss.

 

That is what happens in a representative democracy. If these so called democratic countries we lived in were run like the original Greek democracies, this wouldn't be a problem. That being said there would still be problems but they would be different problems, such as the majority forcing minorities to have less rights or opportunities.

 

Yes, the new world order has been planning this since 1961

 

That happened about six months ago.

This stuff is created for a reason. People like Jerome Corsi are paid to create some fearmongering bullshit and sell it to the paranoid right or conspiracy theorists like Rat. From there it disseminates and takes on a life of its own. By the time its proved false, it has already done its work, the doubt is out there.

 

i cant believe i missed that one,could you provide a link?

 

Obama isn't even from this planet.



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He is referring to the forged COLB (Certificate of Live Birth) -- which is not the same as a birth certificate -- that was posted on Obama's website, as well as the Annenberg-run factcheck.org. Obama has been closely affiliated with Annenberg.

Again, this is all irrelevant to me, so I am not going to argue with people (like Hiptastic) about it.

This video should pretty much answer whatever questions you might have, Bill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oC7zQpIdOA

In my opinion this is all just a big distraction because even if he was born in the U.S. he would still be the turncoat that he is.

 

Its here.

 

when i say independent and impartial,i mean REALLY independent and impartial..

sorry still not convinced..


anyway, like i said,it doesnt matter.

 

Independent and impartial, like Hawaii Department of Health? Or like Alex Jones?

 

like all laid out on a table for a group of random impartial experts chosen by someone who has nothing to gain from making a judgment one way or the other..someone whos career isnt on the line,someone who cant be bought.

alex jones?? lol why do you always insist on jumping to extremes?

i did say impartial and independent did i not?

i think for starters it should be from someone who isnt involved in politics or employed by any government agency. sadly "fact checks" whole job is to decide whats truth or not in everything political therefore i cannot in good conscience accept what they say as fact..



ive said it twice already in this thread and ill say it again ,it doesnt matter,this whole thing is pointless to debate because we will never know,it aint gonna happen..
however that by no means means i must except the official line as fact..
you can choose to if you wish,ill pass..