Let's talk about love

Discussion in 'Hinduism' started by Bhaskar, Apr 16, 2009.

  1. Bhaskar

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    And I didn't say you have to love it.
    Not the same individuals who met Jesus.

    May well be.

    So why is it that every time I try to speak from the perspective that God is everything, you start this exact same argument?

    And where, oh where in heaven did I say anyone should "trance out" or pretend there isn't anything negative to deal with? All I have been saying, all along, is that total love is the way to transform those negatives and heal them. And for that total love, the vision of the other perspective, the transcendental perspective is essential.
     
  2. BlackBillBlake

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    I've said all I have to say on this.

    In the end, love doesn't yield to too much rational analysis.
     
  3. SvgGrdnBeauty

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    Is it ever supposed to? I don't think too many people can ever claim that love is rational...
     
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    Well thats what I meant really.

    I wonder about the whole business of saying love is this, love is that....

    There's many different ways people understand it - I don't think there's any one 'right' way.
    In fact, it may be better to retain a quite simple understanding. I feel that some of what is said about love is very much over constructed.
     
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    Perhaps we should talk about it in negatives like the atman...
     
  6. BlackBillBlake

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    Interesting idea.

    I wonder though - because love to me seems like a very natural thing - a thing given to us all as human beings. If we're lucky enough to have good parents we begin to feel it from the very start. It isn't something we have to strive to attain like knowledge of the Atman.
    By that I mean love as commonly understood - love of God seems to be a special kind of love.
     
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    Hare Krishna!

    From BBB....

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    Perhaps we should talk about it in negatives like the atman...


    Interesting idea.

    I wonder though - because love to me seems like a very natural thing - a thing given to us all as human beings. If we're lucky enough to have good parents we begin to feel it from the very start. It isn't something we have to strive to attain like knowledge of the Atman.
    By that I mean love as commonly understood
    - love of God seems to be a special kind of love.

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    Dear Andrew,

    Think, you are right.

    Both are are love but with a huge difference of one being 'love' the other one being 'prem'. In other words all prem is love but all love is not prem. Shabari's love for Lord Rama and our love for the Lord denote the two forms of love properly. Shabari, Mira Bai and Thakur Ramakrishna (Just a few examples) elevated their love for the Lord to the degree of Prem and became one with God.

    Where there is Prem there is Love without any doubt, but where Love is absent there is no question/possibility of any Prem being present. So, let us learn to love first and then try to reach its highest degree, Prem.

    Hare Krishna!, Hare Krishna!, Hare Krishna!

    Love,

    Kumar.
     
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