Well....I have a slew of questions..I have been researching LSD(Gotta have it) and *they * say that there is no pure LSD since the 60's.Is this true? Is acid and Lsd the same thing?What other drug can be compared to LSD? Ive read other post's and people are tripping,shyt i wanna trip too.(I wish everthing wasnt illegal in the states)I am one of the few who wants to wake up
Yeah, lsd and acid are the same...Drugs that can be compared to lsd are like , mushrooms, mescaline, dmt. Psychedelics, we call em. It was probably way more pure in average in the 60's but you can still find very good stuff.
yes, although real acid is very rare these days, it still exists. It does. You have to look much harder...Mainly only in two places, colorado and california. Don't fuck with other chemicals - rc's. Just don't they suck compared to acid. Oh, and yes "acid" and LSD are one in the same.
yes, although real acid is very rare these days, it still exists. It does. You have to look much harder...Mainly only in two places, colorado and california. Don't fuck with other chemicals - rc's. Just don't, they suck compared to acid. Oh, and yes "acid" and LSD are one in the same, as ^he^ said.
No, the original poster is correct saying there is no 'pure' lsd because LSD has been illegal since the late 60s in the states, and before that Sandoz laboratory LSD was all over the place. Apparently the sandoz stuff felt different than any illicit LSD thereafter because it was so pure.
nobody suggested erowid. www.erowid.org it sounds like love junkie has not done enough research if they think that acid and lsd are different dugs. no offense, but there are alot of things to be learned and taken into consideration when dealing with a drug as powerful as lsd.
"Acid" is usually a "street slang" name for LSD. However, BRUCE EISNER (www.bruceeisner.com), an expert on d-LSD-25 PURITY, claims that "acid" and "d-LSD-25" are slightly different forms of LSD, with slightly different effects (as determined by actual experiences). What's the difference? d-LSD-25 is at least 99.9% pure, or better (according to famous underground LSD chemist TIM SCULLY), while "acid" is d-LSD-25 mixed with impurities, like LSD homologues, analogues and ergot compounds. The active microgram impurites of LSD homologues and analogues can lock into a brain receptor that d-LSD-25 is susposed to fit in, so it "blocks" some of the pure d-LSD-25 molecules, or offers a much weaker and/or different response. These impurities produce no psychedelic activity, or weaker psychedelic action and thus produce slightly different effects. It's like comparing a pure drug of single molecules (with stable effects), to a drug with a mixture of different molecules (with different and/or variable results). Ergot compound impurities {like cycloalkamides and lumi-LSD) can produce negative body effects like muscle aches, inflamed joints, headaches, nausea and hot and cold flashes. Symptoms of "ergot poisoning". It is like playing a CD with a few bits missing ever so often, which would be slightly irritating to listen to. PURE d-LSD-25 is totally spiritual and mental, with no nasty "body" effects It has been said that d-LSD-25 cannot be made 100% PURE. I used to think that this was true, but with advances in scientific knowledge and technologies, it may be possible! How, you may ask? With the new science of NANOTECHNOLOGY (engineering objects down to the size of molecules) and with CLASSIFIED technology from reverse ALIEN SPACECRAFT engineering it is probably VERY POSSIBLE! I cannot verify this as absolute truth, but some alien spacecraft has been analyzed (by highly-classified government agencies) to contain absolutely pure crystal structures! (Not made of d-LSD-25 crystals, of course.) Maybe grown into one giant. perfect crystal! They can't figure out how it's done, because we lack the knowledge and technology to produce it, but it CAN be done! BISMUTH crystal layers were found on the famous delta-shaped ROSWELL craft, which can produce anti-gravity waves! I hate to think about the cost of this 100% PURE d-LSD-25, but if we were more spiritually evolved, than we probably wouldn't need d-LSD-25! Back to our reality, for now, unless your "tripping" when reading this, then I guess you may not be back to our reality. One of the best articles to read on the subject of LSD PURITY is: LSD PURITY, By Bruce Eisner (HIGH TIMES/1977): "LSD Purity: Cleanliness is Next to Godheadliness - An article critical of the purity of LSD By Bruce Eisner. From High Times, 1977." LINK: http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=8785 Same article, but on BRUCE EISNER's own website: LINK: www.bruceeisner.com/writings/2004/08/lsd_purity_from.html When you go to this link, you'll have to scroll down alot, to find this article, but it's there, or do a YAHOO search for "LSD PURITY By Bruce Eisner". This article contains alot of useful information about LSD PURITY. In the summer of 1975, I wrote a personal letter to Bruce Eisner, asking him specific questions about LSD PURITY. He sent me a personal reply (dated: July 21, 1975), 2 pages long, with original signature. I still have this letter. Here is some information from BRUCE EISNER's article - LSD PURITY: "LSD was made illegal on October 16, 1966." SOURCES of PURE d-LSD-25: -Sandoz Pharmaceutical Co. - Basel, Switzerland -Spofa United Pharmaceutical Works - Prague, Czecholovakia -Eli Lilly & Co. - with the patent of the Garbrecht Process (the most efficient process for the manufacture of LSD) -Farmitilla - Milan, Italy - (perfected deep-vat cultivation of ERGOT.) "Owsley's fellow alchemist, Tim Scully, admitted to me that the 1965 batch was impure, but claims that Owsley and he perfected a purification process in 1966. Many who used both Sandoz and Owsley - the latter came in tablets of purple (Purple Haze) and white (White Lightening) of 270 micrograms - say that Owsley acid was less mystical and had more stimulant side effects than the Sandoz product." "My evaluation had nothing to do with the notion that a wholly syntheitc drug produced a wholly synthetic experience - the intellectual response - but was based upon a direct, first-hand experience (about 30 trips with street acid in all) . And in each session I felt that there was something that it lacked - it was too "electric," too "speedy" and too "mind shattering." The earlier clarity of "insight" which I obtained via the Sandoz acid was replaced by confusion, brokeness, words and and worlds thrown into absolute dismemberment, or even absolute chaos, though, I must add, often coupled with a feeling that I can only describe as "sublime inflation," a super abundance of emotive energy, but it could not signify a more passionate flame and less the life-giving sun." "I suspect that impurities give people body trips (euphoria) rather than the pure mind trips of LSD (ecstacy)." "But only pure LSD opens the doors of perception all the way." From my July 21,1975 letter reply from Bruce Eisner: "Pure LSD does more than give visual distortions and hallucinations. It takes you to a state of mind beyond categories--known by some as the Clear Light of the Void. It is beyond words to describe--I have never experienced it myself but have friends who have." The ORIGINAL d-LSD-25 synthesis of Dr. Albert Hofmann was the best. Some of the later d-LSD-25 synthesis processes were created by the CIA (and added STRYCHNINE in the synthesis process) to produce bad physical effects, to discourage LSD use. STRYCHNINE was not added, later, i.e. after the d-LSD-25 was made, but used in a defective synthesis process. There were a few synthesis processes found out. Avoid any synthesis processes that uses STRYCHNINE in the creation of the actual d-LSD-25 molecules. The CIA wanted the magical, alchemical of PURE d-LSD-25 exclusively for themselves! Blame the CIA for BAD acid! Plus adding RC's, as substitutes! Psilocybin (extracted from PSILOCYBE, CONOCYBE, INOCYBE, PANAEOLOUS, GYMNOPILLUS mushrooms, etc.), MESCALINE (extracted from PEYOTE and SAN PEDRO cacti) and DMT (extracted from BANISTERIOPSIS CAAPI and PIPTADENIA) have molecular structures very similar to LSD and similar, but not exact, psychedelic effects. By the way, ALBERT HOFMANN (the discoverer of LSD and "the world's greatest organic chemist") turned 100 YEARS OLD, on January 11, 2006 (born in 1906) in Basel, Switzerland! Albert Hofmann Updated - The New York Times; Father of LSD, Now 100 and his 'problem child'/January 08, 2006, (www.bruceeisner.com) QUOTE: "It's very dangerous to lose contact with living nature," he said. "In the big cities, there are people who have never seen living nature, all things are products of humans," he said. "The bigger the town, the less they see and understand nature." And yes, LSD, which he calls his 'problem child', could help reconnect people to the universe." - Dr. Albert Hofmann quotes, by Craig S. Smith, from The New York Times Peace out. Trip out. (\__/))))) BUNNY: This is good SANDOZ, I'm melting!!! (o. ))))) ( O ))))) (> < )))))
Even if you were to create 100% PURE d-LSD-25, you'd have to drop it fairly quickly, or store it in a vacuum vial or ampule, surrounded by nitrogen gas to preserve its ULTRA-purity. Light (UV in paticular), air (oxygen in particular), heat and moisture can all degrade the sensitive LSD-25 molecule, over a given period of time. I wonder if CRYOGENETIC (ULTRA-cold) storage would work good for LSD storage? It works for biological items. The LSD would work weeks, or months later, but would PURITY PERCENTAGE would it be at? There still is some debate over the issue of LSD PURITY. It is argued that if the impurities are not active at microgram levels, then how can they have any effect on the overall LSD experience? Or if microgram-active impurities are present at such a low percentage, would they truely have any effect? There have been some double-blind studies with LSD, and it was found that some trippers would experience certain attributes to certain blotter pictures, even if the actual percentage of LSD impurities varied! Some types were said to be "speedy", some "spiritual", some more "psychedelic". etc. There is a psychological factor here, like auto-suggestion. ARTICLE: "LSD Purity - Gospel and Heresey - A good critical review of the ever-polular issue." LINK: http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=8796 When LSD tripping became popular (60's-early 70's), the SETTING (or the psychological environment - ENVIRONMENTAL PSYCHOLOGY) was more spiritual and care-free, so more trippers would be guaranteed a more spiritual adventure. Later toward the early 1970's, there was alot more civil unrest and anxiety. More worry. The Vietnam War, '67 Riots, Kent State, Ohio shootings, etc. LSD just amplifies what there is in your head. Plus, LSD was made illegal on October 16, !966. More head stress. More "black market" LSD came about, but then a more "non-spiritual" and a more stressful psychological environment was created. Too many variables to consider! Some more "double-blind" studies were done comparing PURE samples of d-LSD-25, PSILOCYBIN and MESCALINE. All single drug samples, and no complex fungi/plant samples. Most trippers couldn't tell the difference between the three of them! Of course, PURE PSILOCYBIN and MESCALINE are not available on the streets, and you must use "magic mushrooms" and "mescaline cacti", which have a vast mixture of other fungi/plant alkaloids and chemicals, which alters the basic experience from the pure psychedelics of PSILOCYBIN and MESCALINE. The chemical structure of these psychedelics are extremely similar. Psychedelic drugs are merely "chemical KEYS" anyway, that fit into brain receptors, that unlock certain portions of your brain, to connect into higher levels of consciousness. It's then a HEAD TRIP after that. If you believe in the HOLOGRAPHIC PARDIGM theory of the universe, where self, time and space EXIST but are ILLUSIONS (like TV screen pictures), then all of these points are mute! We create our own realities! There are psychological and quantum physics issues with the LSD experience. What about the "SPEEDY" aspects of LSD? From "impure d-LSD-25"? Maybe. Or is it due to a structure in the basic d-LSD-25 molecule, which has an amphetamine-type effect? There is a whole grouping of psychedelics called "PSYCHEDELIC AMPHETAMINES", like DOM (60's "street slang" name: STP), which are extremely "speedy", naturally. Some side-effects of LSD are amphetamine-like, like "sweating". Or is this an indication of "impure d-LSD-25"? People have varied psychological make-ups. What if a MANIC-personality tripped on d-LSD-25? They would most likely have a "speedy" reaction, due to their mental make-up, and not necessarily due to the direct action of the d-LSD-25 molecule. LSD just reveals your mental make-up. Timothy Leary talked about the SET (the MENTAL make-up of the tripper) and the SETTING (the ENVIRONMENTAL PSYCHOLOGY factors). Of course, d-LSD-25 PURITY has some factors. Then you must consider this factor: "PUT HIS (YOUR) TRIP. preaching the superiority of one's own LSD experience and, by implication , oneself and one's philosophy, as in "Timothy Leary is out of favor with the HIPPIES because he's trying too hard to PUT HIS TRIP on everybody else"; i.e. a rebellion against other people's structuring or defining their own LSD experience by holding it up as model." DEFINITION from: DRUGS FROM A TO Z - A DICTIONARY, By Richard R. Lingeman, McGraw-Hill Book Company, NY, c 1969, 1974, pg. 218. This is just a competitive head trip, and not too hip, more "corporate" in belief. Everyone has their own path and experiences. One LSD trip is not necessarily "better" than another. Life has its lessons. Sometimes a "negative" experience can result into a very positive result. Alot (but not all) of "Orange Sunshine" LSD was really ALD-52 (especially the orange-crumbly kind). ALD-52 supposedly converts quickly into LSD-25, but some ALD-52 trippers reported that an ALD-52 trip was smoother and more visual than LSD-25. I never took "Orange Sunshine", so I have no direct experiences with it. I have a high school friend who did take "Orange Barrel" (in the begining of the 70's) and had a powerful and visual trip on it. He said that the houses (that he walked by) came ALIVE and were laughing at him!!! Physical or psychological? Any comments from ALD-52 trippers? Good d-LSD-25 is difficult to come by, today, for a number of reasons. First of all, a high-quality source of ERGOT is needed for the correct synthesis of d-LSD-25 and the government made it difficult to procure, knowing it would cut-off most high-quality attempts at synthesis. To further discourage the "black market" synthesis of d-LSD-25 and its later wide-spread use, the CIA released some d-LSD-25 synthesis procedures that use STRYCHNINE in the synthesis procedure. STRYCHNINE was not added to the final product, but was part of a chemical synthesis procedure. Albert Hofmann's original synthesis DID NOT use STRYCHNINE in the synthesis process. The CIA put out this faulty synthesis formula to make people have some negative body effects. Hofmann's d-LSD-25 synthesis works best. Original HIPPIES were more spiritual and used d-LSD-25 as an important enthenogenic substance, for spiritual and mental expansion. Well, maybe not all of them. There was a different spirit/mind SET then. The quality of the d-LSD-25 was of most importance. However, there are many other trippers that regard LSD more of an exciting, sensory experience, and that's all that they want out of it, i.e. more of a chemical joy ride. d-LSD-25 quality is of less importance in this situation. This is the other side of the coin for LSD PURITY. Scientists haven't figured out how LSD works in the brain/body (unless they're keeping it a secret), so there are many unanswered questions. Here is one version on how LSD works in the brain/body: "Suprisingly, only a small percentage (about 0.01 percent) of the dose taken enters the brain, where it remains twenty minutes, then disappears; a much larger percentage goes to the liver and kidneys. The fact that the amount in the brain remains there only about twenty minutes suggests that LSD's action is indirect, i.e., it either releases or inhibits other substancers naturally occuring in the brain, and this imbalance causes the subjective effects." DRUGS FROM A TO Z - A DICTIONARY, By Richard R. Lingeman, McGraw-Hill Book Company, NY, c 1969, 1974, pg. 133. Even with "street acid", trippers have found GOD, have had many beautiful experiences and have solved some spiritual/mental problems, so how important is LSD PURITY? More experimentation needs to be done, so it's still an unanswered question. Expand your consciousness toward infinity . . .
