Libertarian: Pro gun Hippy

Mary told me that man Hippies are pro gun just like me. I was told by her that the hippies at The Haight, were armed to the teeth. Then reading on an AR-15 forum I read someone post, A pro gun Hippy is pretty much the definition, of a libertarian. I can agree with this somewhat, as I am a libertarian. Does anyone else agree?

 

I think a pro gun hippy is likely to be a libertarian, but a pro gun libertarian is not likely to be a hippy.

 

That sounds like me. I am more like a pro-constitution, pro-bill of rights, everyone (all races/sexes/sexual orientations/religions etc. ...) should have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness without others judgement or infringement on their rights. As long as it does NOT infringe on anyone else's rights, and a gun enthusiast, long haired hippy. I do identify myself as a Libertarian.

The bill of rights does not come a la carte. All or none. My conservative and liberal friends do not seem to understand that.

Peace!

 

Who the heck is Mary?

 

She is a mod on here, her name is Shameless_heifer

 

How do you feel about private property and taxes?

 

Ok got it.

 

I feel I should not be taxed for something I already own If my mortgage is paid off, I should not be forced to keep paying money to say I own my property, but as long as I make enough to pay the taxes I'll keep quiet about my displeasure while continuing my crusade to get rid of property taxes

 

What exactly is hippie about you?

 

I believe that everyone is and should be equal regardless of race religion or sexual preference

I love sixties music such as the grateful dead

I am an advocate for animal rights

I believe mother nature is something that should be protected, and wish to have an off grid, completely green home.

I believe in peace and pacifism, unless defense is necessary

I have a soft and tender heart and like to help my fellow human beings .

I like organic food, and self sufficiency.

I want to fight against world hunger

I agree with many things of the Hippie idealogy,

I don't believe in labels to a degree, I don't agree with bad labels

If it is a good label, I don't see a problem with it, and so how is being a hippie a bad thing?

 

One of the reasons being a hippie is a bad thing to me is that they always seem to be vague and politically correct. Example, "I want to fight against world hunger."

Ok, that sounds very nice, but it tells us libertarians absolutely nothing at all. We require a greater level of detail to fit you within our ranks. Specifically, whether the state/taxation should be involved in this "fight".

The same goes for "everybody should be equal." Nobody will ever disagree with that, but it tells me absolutely nothing. Are you in favor of affirmative action? Are you in favor of tax payer financed abortions or contraceptives for women? Are you in favor of welfare programs? Those questions will put you firmly on the side of libertarians or not...

***Animal rights and green regulation will put you squarely on the side of Democratic party liberals. Al Gore and the like. Therefore, not libertarian at all.***

Pacifism coupled with a strong defense is consistent with libertarianism, IMO.

As for your taste in music, living location, clothing, hair length, culinary, good humor or disposition toward others, and whatever else...have at it. One of the nice things about being a libertarian is that you can like what you like, do what you want to do, as long as you don't tax me or take my individual liberties from me.

Libertarians run the gamut between very conservative and liberal in their *personal lives*. What unites them is that they don't want to see the government regulating behavior, even if it means others will have the right to do things which you, personally, wouldn't do. That would include gambling, prostitution, drug use, abortion, and euthanasia. All of the so-called "victimless crimes."

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Edit: Self-sufficiency is a tricky one. At first blush, libertarians would jump all over that label, but again you're vague. Self-sufficiency could mean, you mind your own business and support yourself. Libertarian points.

***Or it could mean the government intervenes in the farming business to impose green regulation. Libertarian demerit.***

Again, nice words are not enough for a libertarian, whereas for hippies it often seems like the most important thing.

 

By animal rights and being green, I don't mean to the extreme. I support the keystone pipeline, I just think there should be a few regulations...such as not dumping toxic chemicals in our rivers and streams, or poaching. And by animals rights I just don't think people should be allowed to beat the shit out of an animal or neglect it. I am in favor of agriculture and all that good stuff. Because I am not a hardcore left or right, I put myself in the libertarian area.

I also do support you being able to keep all of your civil liberties as well as mine, because I am not an advocate for gun control what so ever, love my guns

 

You did not mention welfare programs...but, as for everything else you mention, you do seem libertarian up to the point you want green regulation and animal rights. That's when you diverge into Dem liberalism.

 

I feel the welfare system is being abused, and needs to be investigated for moochers, so that way people who really do need that help get it, until they get back on their feet It needs ALOT reform due to the many people abusing it and using it to not get a job, vs those who do need it until they get back on their feet

 

when it comes to green regulation I just believe we need to protect forests and the agricultural areas of our country so that we don't become overpopulated and have a food crisis. I don't think they should be allowed to dump chemicals and shit in our water, thats pretty much it not like ya know, lets completely restrict things to where its just a hassle and becomes a constraint on civil liberties. like for example

people used to dump radioactive waste in our water....I don't support that

 

Yes, that's Clintonite reformist. So, I would say you're *not* libertarian as far as welfare and the environment.

 

My mother has cancer and hasn't been able to work for over a year and is given 6 months to 1 year to live....do you think we deserve to be in the streets homeless?

 

That's a big debate, as I think you're aware. I was just replying to what I thought was the main point of this thread, which is where you fall in with libertarians and where you might not.

I will reply succintly to your question but I do not wish to engage the usual debates between libertarians and leftists.

I should just say that, personally, I think there's no such thing as "deserve." It's an empty word, as far as I can see. Since I know nothing about your mom and therefore have nothing against her, I do hope your mother thrives, and that there are people willing to help her.

I definitely don't want a bureaucrat being paid to manage my "charity." Which is really hard earned money that I should be under no obligation to part with.

 

No, no. Hippies care about the environment. Remember the first Earth Day? Libertarians don't have a workable plan for the environment.

And this bullshit about hippies in the Haight armed to the teeth? Come on.