LSD to treat social anxiety

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by stumblemeister, Jun 5, 2010.

  1. stumblemeister

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    Hi
    I'm new on here, joined to find more information on the powers of LSD to open your mind!
    I've read posts from people saying they really helped themselves overcome social anxiety with this.

    I suffer from strange intense feelings of other people judging me, especially people I dont know or dont know well and people in authority eg my boss!
    My face will blush bright red, i will sweat like mad sometimes struggle to talk too. When I walk down the street I think people are staring at me, I know its irrational but I can't break the thought pattern. This stops me from enjoying my life, I have a good job, great girlfriend, a couple of close friends and things should be great!

    Started to develop around the time I started secondary school, then I started bunking off, drinking, and smoking weed every day! Took Es for a while too!
    I really believe LSD could open my mind to the fact that my thoughts are stupid and I'm doing this to myself! Having said that, I have no idea how to get hold of acid, been out of the drugs scene for years!

    Also, not prepared to use paxil ect. Drugs like that only mask the actual problem and are highly addictive.

    Thanks for your input in advance! ;)
     
  2. sunfighter

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    I suffered from social anxiety just like you, at about the same age, too. It was terrible. I couldn't even get on a bus without having terrifying feelings that everyone was looking at me while I found my seat.

    I think LSD helped me. But I think even better than that, was getting myself into Gestalt therapy and other personal growth groups that forced me to speak and act in front of groups. Scary, but very very effective. I got so much better that I've done quite a bit of public speaking.

    I think at the root of this is that you care way too much what others think of you. It's natural when you're young and unsure of yourself. At my age, I hardly give a fuck what others think, but it hasn't made me less compassionate or anything. Be yourself and trust that the more you can be yourself, the more OK you will feel (perhaps even cool).
     
  3. Mr.Writer

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    It's not a "fix it" button. It can make it much worse. It is a journey, and what you return with from the journey is up to you.

    Acid has reduced my anxiety by like 90%, so I'm lucky.
     
  4. Plant_Head

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    MrWriter is very wise. It can make it worse, and it has for me at certain periods of my life. But similarly I think I have been lucky as well, and when I started to get more into the realizations of what was happening to my mind and soul I made tremendous progress in that field.
     
  5. neodude1212

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    LSD will not cure you.
    The quality of "society anxiety" is currently a part of your personality. Sure, perhaps (and even most likely) when you are tripping, you will be able to objectively evaluate your own anxiety and find it intensely silly, but this is akin to an otherwise timid person suddenly finding the courage to hit on woman while drunk.
    In other words, you can't rely on self-perceptions while you are under the influence of a substance. If you are looking for a permanent solution to social anxiety, and not just a solution that will last 8 hours while you are tripping, then that kind of fix must be found in sobriety.
     
  6. Plant_Head

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    Just become happy with who you are. haha
     
  7. Mr.Writer

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    what if you're a douchebag though
     
  8. thedope

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    No.
    Solutions come from equal dispersal, not sobriety.
    This kind of social anxiety is caused by the idea of specialness, that the self is either superior or inferior to someone else or to some situation.
    The I am I call myself and the I am you call yourself are the same. We all deal with the same sorts of contingencies, only varying in form.
    The guy behind the counter is every bit as fucked up as you are.
    In social situations, simply speak the truth and things will sort themselves out.
     
  9. neodude1212

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    I didn't say that sobriety itself would cure him, I said that this solution must be found in sobriety, rather than looking to a drug for cures.
    His problem faces him when sober (which is where the majority of us spend most of our time), so unless he can integrate some mystic feeling from a trip or some spiritual mumbo jumbo that actually helps while he's sober and face to face with the sober mind that is the cause of the anxiety in the first place, then what's the point.
     
  10. thedope

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    We look to psychedelics to see what there is to see.
    A sober mind is not the source of anxiety, quite the opposite. Sober is serious and thoughtful in demeanor or quality and is not fanciful or speculative, basing judgments on facts and rational thinking rather than on speculation.
    Anxiety is caused by the misapprehension of what is so.
     
  11. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    I have had a lot of success using LSD to help with phobias that cause anxiety. Social anxiety is almost like a phobia so I think it could help.

    I also have social anxiety, but I have never used LSD to help me with it. The greatest help I have found has come from David DeAngelo, Leil Lowndes, David Wygant, along with time, and practice.
     
  12. Mr.Writer

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    David DeAngelo :D I get his emails haha, he is awesome. Are the other two in the same field?

    Dope, you really nailed it on the anxiety front. You must speak from experience because that is exactly the case :) The cure to anxiety is to slow down and look.
     
  13. thedope

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    There was a point in my life where I could not appreciate one thing. Tried a medical approach to anxiety disorder but I soon discovered that these treatments do not affect the cause of anxiety.

    I started to ask questions of the world at large out loud. The world responded with photosynthesis, as the answers emerged from the drama of being itself.
     
  14. stumblemeister

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    Thanks for the feedback guys, your advice is much apprieciated!

    I am not looking at LSD as a magic cure, rather a key to open the door - I must walk through myself!

    I want to show my subconscious what my conscious knows, and break this vicious thought pattern.

    Sunfighter, those groups sound like they would help massively!
     
  15. neodude1212

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    And yet they often are a source of illusion all the same.

    I think it's clear I meant "sober" as in "not on drugs".
    As for what sober actually is within the context of sobriety, that to me is something very personal deep inside an individual mind and can't be applied as a widespread truth.
    Case in point, I disagree with your notion that anxiety is caused by a misapprehension of some objective "truth" and believe seemingly illogical anxiety to be just as valid an emotion/thought as any other. I've actually noticed that the kind of people inhabited by anxiety are generally the more perceptive kind.
    The point though is that validity does not necessarily equate to helpfulness. In my opinion the opportunity presented by anxiety is the chance to walk the line between becoming so overwhelmed by intuitiveness that you become debilitated, and using it as a source of sensitivity to your own self and others.
     
  16. Mr.Writer

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    thank you :)
     
  17. thedope

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    The sources of illusion are in the mind regardless.

    Why?
    All anxiety is "illogical" anxiety and can be calmed by logic. Many people lead lives of "quiet desperation". What is the "more perceptive kind"
    Sounds like you are wound tight. You really needn't be, but whatever suits you.
     
  18. Plant_Head

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    Hm Interesting. I agree with you both. I've had friends go such routes and I've made progress going the route of easing my soul but perhaps it's too soon for recognition of that....A personal thing to figure, I know I still get wrapped up in interpretation. However, I would think "simple truths" are yet another ideology, especially to those that are wrapped in more layers. As my uncle said today...

    "I know what it is like to want to break the cycle, but one does so by riding comfortably in the cycle. Only when one is comfortable with it can one move on. 'Escape' as it were, is not possible. It is like changing lanes. You have to check traffic and carefully and smoothly go… Or else someone else or you both get hurt- or you just can’t change lanes, or you have to do it again."

    I can see and have seen that living in awareness of your anxiety is a way to feel better overall, but not necessarily yet in the moment of anxiety. Progress can be made.

    You mention intuition. I wouldn't go as far as to say that your "intuition" is misinterpretation or paranoia. Although possible, assume not, there is much validity to feelings that you may call perceptive. When it comes to overwhelming, who is doing the overwhelming? And who is overwhelmed?

    Conscience is a compartment of ego, that I would not necessarily discredit. I still think it's a matter of relativity to individuals being helped. That is not something that dictates whether or not they love. It's a safe path indeed, to be "aware" of the self and others in a way that can guide you around obstacles. But that's not the only way around obstacles because maybe there aren't really any obstacles there.

    TheDope you are an elder. Apparently wise to many youth and much experienced in this life. Many of us are young, and young in a world of much fallacy. A product of the system. Thankfully, we are of nature and we know the progression of "change" and we were reassuringly educated of and here we stand in the body and the day with ages ahead of us. We will unravel. It is a matter of belief, if we are to rise back to order. But this order will be not veiled, but in the way of a fetus in a womb. An umbilical cord to a life source that is sourced in life because of the great big fireball of hydrogen.
     
  19. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    Wygant is. Leil is a chick, she has helped me with business communication. But really its all the same.
     
  20. neodude1212

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    Then what precedence do psychedelics have when the mind looks to something to see what is?

    Because I am of the belief that there is no ultimate widespread truth.

    I'm sorry but I just don't agree. Anxiety exists for a reason and there are plenty of scenarios where anxiety or fear is an appropriate response. When anxiety becomes a DISORDER is when the mind is serving the anxiety, rather than the anxiety serving the mind.
    Just because it isn't pleasurable doesn't mean that it's a lie.

    "Walking the line" does lend itself to the imagery of being wound tight, but for some people it's as effortless as controlling the wind.
    As far as what I NEED to be, who could really answer something like that?
     

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