Making X- Distillation and Vaccumes

Discussion in 'Drug Chemistry' started by Zelgaddis, Apr 16, 2005.

  1. Zelgaddis

    Zelgaddis Member

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    Post as a retarded kid years ago.
     
  2. Peace Attack

    Peace Attack Make War

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    This strikes me as shady...
    but I hope you get the anwsers you need if you're coming from a pure place.
     
  3. localhippy

    localhippy Senior Member

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  4. Zelgaddis

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    Sketch?
     
  5. AceAzamean

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    glass wont hold compression well. u need to rig up an envirnmental box with other materials. usually a fiberglass box, say an extra thick speaker box, and cover the wholes with clear fiberglass and then compress. Maybe rig up a compressor motor from a little compressor (but backwards so it pumps out).

    safety first, make it like 1/4 inch thinck all around and seal with alot of cocking maybe.


    or u could by one from the government.
     
  6. Zelgaddis

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    Hmmm I dont understand what your saying? Do you have a sketch or picture? So I would be hooking up the box to the glassware and using a rubber like seal to keep compression? Sorry but I dont understand ANYTHING about vacumes. I understand the synthesis fine, and for me to extract the element for distillation I would be boiling off the element with the lower boiling point and then re condensing it into another flask. What would I do if I needed to extract an element from a compound but the elements in the compound had a lower boiling point than the element that I needed to extract? Sorry Im still really new to this, and yes I have enrolled in a College Organic Chemistry corse.
     
  7. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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    Glassware? Not really. But you can usually get a usable vacuum from a cheap water aspirator. A salvaged compressor from a refrigerator or air conditioner also makes a pretty decent vacuum pump. Just remember to keep it full of oil to prevent burning it up!

    In exactly what procedure? What are you trying to separate from what? Are you talking about the separation of safrole from essential oils, or the separation of MDP-2-P from your reaction mix? Or something else?

    Typically, vacuum distillation is used when distillation at atmospheric pressure would require temperatures above the decomposition point of the substance being distilled. The higher the vacuum, the lower the boiling points become. Substances that decompose at or below their boiling point must be distilled under vacuum.

    Sure. Isomerize safrole using KOH or similar strong base....

    No shit? :rolleyes:

    Great, so exactly how many people do you have involved in this project? Every one of them is a bust waiting to happen, especially somebody stupid enough to try buying isosafrole without an airtight alibi! All it takes is ONE of them rolling over on you to get YOUR ass busted...

    Ditch the glassware and chems, and keep a REALLY low profile for the next few years.

    :)
     
  8. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    ROFL. Wow.
     
  9. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    chemists :rolleyes:


    :p
     
  10. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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    Including how to spell the word, apparently...:)
     
  11. gnrm23

    gnrm23 Senior Member

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    spel?
    wurd!
    dood...
     
  12. prankster1590

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    You have to do some research.
    You wanna attempt a MDMA synth but you dont know how to synthesize Isosafrole.
    That is bad.
    Search for a Rhodium mirror on the web. And do some research.

    If you wanna distillate your Safrole oil try SteamDistillation.
     
  13. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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    Steam distillation will work great for getting the essential oil out of sassafras root bark or other plant material, but if you want to separate the safrole from the other compounds in an essential oil, you are going to need fractional vacuum distillation.
     
  14. deadonceagain

    deadonceagain mankind is a plague

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    Zelgaddis if you live in the US you are so fucked
     
  15. prankster1590

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    You are absolutely right. [​IMG] Sometimes I just write stuff without thinking lioke i'm in a hurry or something.
    Sorry [​IMG]
     
  16. piperazine

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    ROFLAMO!!! You are SO screwed! And on top of those brilliant tactics, posting a yahoo email address on a public DRUG CHEMISTRY forum? You think Yahoo of all people won't hand your IP over to the authorities in a second?

    Attempting to purchase isosafrole is the stupidest thing I have heard in years.

    And I'm sure all your friends are bragging to their friends about knowing an "XTC COOK". I don't care if they are all your best friends, trust no one when you're trying to commit a class A or AA felony!

    Not quite buddy, you're the kid that downloaded a synthesis off the internet and thinks he knows what he's doing. That has never heard of an aspirator.

    I'm not trying to be a dick, listen to ellis. Ditch the chems and glass and keep a low profile for the next 20 years or so, if you're not being watched now the DEA is having an off day and you will be VERY soon.

    Prison sucks.
     
  17. piperazine

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    Oh yeah, and posting your location is a very stupid move as well.
     
  18. kif

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    If that kid is for real, and he actually does whip up his own special batch of half assed MDMA, he'll more than likely kill somebody with it.
     
  19. Weatherman

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    I feel SO SO sorry for your anus man. Fake your death very soon.
     
  20. The Flow

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    Whhhuuuuaaaahaaahaaahaaahaaa..., LOL, ROFL, ROFLABTC....

    Haahaahaa, sorry, I´m almost crying, haahaahaa....

    Hey kid, if it was so easy to make X or other interesting drugs, why don´t almost all the posters in this HipForums-section do it then?

    Whhhuaaahaahaahaaaa....

    If you really want to safe/make money, give up the drugs and look for a job, it wouldn´t be half that dangerous for you!

    Haaahaaahaaahaaaaa...... ROFL....

    But:
    If you really manage to make some MDMA and you and your friends don´t become blind/impotent/paraplegic or worse after trying it, I promise you, I´ll buy your whole production for a really good prize!

    Whhuuuaaaahuuuaaahaaahaaahaaa.... haven´t laughed so good for years...
     

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