marine kills unarmed raghead

What the fuck is oging on here. The iraquis are all saying "thats agianst islam" "bad americans" Motherfuckers, you go aorund beheading unarmed civilians for islam and when we kill a few pieces of shit who were days ago shooting at soldiers....thers an uproar? Fuck you and islam.

 

1.) We are not Islamic extremists, United States Marines are held to a higher standard and rightly so.

2.) Shooting an unarmed and wounded man in an islamic equivalent of a church in front of a camera is just not good PR. We are trying to stable the region remember?

3.) The Sunnis (who's cooperation we need for elections to go smoothly) weren't too thrilled about the U.S. being in Fallujah to begin with. This was icing on the cake.

4.) "kill a few pieces of shit"?!?!?! try 7,000-10,000 to date, mostly children...

5.) "Fuck you and islam" Which is exactly why it is so easy for terrorist recruit in Iraq. NOT THE WAY TO STOP TERRORISM.

 

Please do entertain us with a source to that comment.

 

well, for starters there's
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3962969.stm

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996596

One major project, www.iraqbodycount.net, estimates up to 16,300 deaths in Iraq due to coalition forces. But this collects data on deaths reported in the press only. “We've always maintained that the actual count must be much higher," says Scott Lipscomb, at Northwestern University, Illinois, US, who works on the project. "I am emotionally shocked but I have no trouble in believing that this many people have been killed," he told The New York Times.

Anyway, statistics are easy to find, if you don't mind taking 30 seconds out of your busy schedule to look for them.

 

You've corrected me on a couple of things so i suppose its my turn to make some corrections. The man inside the "islamic equivalent of a church" was just the other day shooting innocent civilians from the same place. If you shoot someone from a place of worship I think you deserve to die there. And dont even feed me this BS about it being in front of a camera, lets not forget the several beheadings of INNOCENT PEOPLE that were filmed by these terrorists. So lets see... We kill a terrorist and everyone gets upset, they kill an innocent journalist and nobody cares.

 

4.) "kill a few pieces of shit"?!?!?! try 7,000-10,000 to date, mostly children...





Of the links supplied, worst case was 100,000 since March 2003 (additional deaths due to war). These were “estimated by extrapolating the surveyed households’ death toll to the whole population” From the second link.



Let’s see Mar 03 to Oct 04 (date of article) is 20 months. During sanctions, Iraq was loosing 5,000 children, under age 5, each month (additional deaths due to sanctions)

That’s 100,000 additional children that would have died under sanctions during those months.





I’d have to agree, somewhat, with the original poster. There seems to be a lot of outrage of that killing, but not too much attention from the Arab world of the kidnappings and beheadings. Why would that be?

 

Bloody Duh!

Next time look at the highlighted part and notice that I was asking about the "mostly children" part.

 

By a few pieces of shit i mean, the instrugents. ANd tis the insturgents faults that the civilians are getting killed. so..... FUCK THEM and fuck islam, let them fight the insturgents if they dont wanna get blown up by us bombs. booohooohooo 10k people? thats what the us homicide rate is yearly.

 

And it's our fault the insurgents are fighting.

Don't forget who started this war.

Oh, and the higher (and more scientific) body counts are above 100,000.


Edit: Just to add, your intolerance and racisim does not move us any closer to peace. In fact, it doesn't make you much better than those we are fighting.

 

have any of your marine family been killed in iraq? no? shut the fuck up please.

 

Flake you've aptly named yourself Flake!

You're just using the same old tired argument that all murderers and their supporters use "they did it so we can do it worse to them." Maybe its just that you're angry about your family member dying, but hey, y'all chose to join the Marines, there's no draft, so you took the risk. You all made a decision, 'I want to join the armed forces and take that risk so I can call myself a marine and have a job with benefits.

But you're behaving like a Nazi - blaming 1.2 billion people (the Muslems) for the acts of a few fanatics in Iraq. I suppose you'd put them all in concentration camps if you could. That kind of thinking isn't healthy.

Grow up! It's not some Iraqi 6 year-old child's fault that your relative got killed. You might look closer to home for someone to blame, at the neoCons who started the war, or the former Presidents who installed & funded Sadam in the first place.

 

Say people, not raghead! We dont need a bunch of hatred out there. It wont solve a thing. Oh and i belive this belongs in the american attacks forum not politics.

 

You are an extremely rude person.

The population of Iraq is roughly 50% children; so when talking about a random cross section of innocent civilians killed by the recent invasion and fighting I would say it would be a fair assumption that a large proportion of those deaths would be minors. "Most" is however probably putting it a little strongly.

 

A rude person? If you do not want me to be rude, do not misenterpert my comments.

Yes, so most of the deaths are of children? That's a pointless manipulation of statistics.

 

It wasn't me who misinterpreted ... I was just noticing how rude you were being to the person who did ... quite uncalled for.

 

I know, it's nothing general. It is just that her and Sprout are constantly rude towards me, they do not deserve better treatment.

 

Well since the gov't is doing no body counts there really isn't many better ways to get the statistics.

 

motherfuckers, stay on topic or stop posting.

 

WAR CRIMES
By: Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, USMC (Ret.)


WASHINGTON, D.C. -- By now, almost everyone in the world with a television has seen the videotape that appears to show a U.S. Marine shooting a wounded Iraqi terrorist inside a mosque in Fallujah. For the record, here are the facts, because facts -- not rumors or emotions -- really are important. Here is what those who were there told me:

On Friday, Nov. 12, U.S. Marines were fired upon by terrorists armed with AK-47s, RPD machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades from a mosque and an adjacent building. The Marines returned fire, first with M-16s and 240G machine guns, and then, as they continued to take fire and casualties, they escalated to an MK-19, a 40mm grenade launcher and then an AT-4 missile.

When none of these weapons successfully eliminated enemy fire, the platoon commander called for and received permission to open fire with the main gun of an M-1 Abrams tank and then storm the buildings. In the ensuing assault, 10 terrorists were killed and five others were wounded, as the Marines went room-to-room clearing the buildings. Immediately afterward, two correspondents accompanying coalition forces were shown a large quantity of AK-47s, machine guns, mortar rounds, explosives, RPGs and hand grenades that had been stored in the mosque.

While the print and broadcast cameramen were photographing the evidence of a war crime -- weapons being stored in a place of worship -- the Marine unit received an order over the radio to advance and secure another building. As the bone-tired troops departed for their next objective, one of the correspondents asked what would become of the wounded terrorists. A Marine sergeant replied that another unit was to move up and evacuate the injured enemy to the rear for treatment and detention.

The following morning -- Saturday -- another platoon of Marines from a different company was attacked from the mosque. A second gunfight ensued, and once again, a squad of Marines assaulted the structure. They were accompanied by NBC correspondent Kevin Sites and his cameraman, taping for the "pool" -- meaning that whatever tape he filed would be available to all the networks accredited to cover Operation New Dawn.

According to the videotape and the report filed after the action, as the Marines burst into one of the rooms inside the mosque, they found four terrorists -- one dead and three wounded. In the video that has now been seen around the world, one of the battle-weary Marines points his weapon at one of the enemy combatants lying against the wall and shouts, "He's (expletive) faking he's dead. He's faking he's (expletive) dead." An instant later, the Marine raises his rifle and fires into the insurgent's head. Immediately thereafter, another Marine can be heard saying, "Well, he's dead now."

For American broadcasts, the actual shot is "blacked out." But when the tape airs on Al Jazeera, Al Arabiya, Lebanon TV and other Arab media outlets, nothing is left to the imagination. Unfortunately, neither version is accurate -- though both are very troubling. Like so much of what's on television today, only the goriest, most sensational portion of the tape has aired. As a consequence, "the rest of the story" -- as my friend Paul Harvey puts it -- has been lost in the clamor created by 15 seconds of videotape.

Only a few have seen the footage shot the day before -- providing irrefutable evidence that the mosque was a well-defended arms depot. And fewer still have viewed the very next sequence after "the shooting," which shows two Marines pointing their weapons at another combatant lying motionless. Suddenly, one of the Marines jumps back as the terrorist stretches out his hand, motioning that he is alive. Neither Marine opens fire.

According to the Marines, a Navy medical corpsman was then summoned to treat the two wounded prisoners. In his original written report, Sites, the correspondent who videotaped the shooting, doesn't mention the medical treatment provided to the injured enemy combatants, but he does note that four of the combatants were some of those who had been left behind from the firefight on Friday. If the NBC reporter knew that from being there the day before, why didn't he tell this new group of Marines before they rushed into the room?

None of that is included in the tape, which is now being used to raise Islamic ire at the "American invader." Why? And why did it take more than a day to learn that the Marine seen shooting on the videotape had been wounded in the face the day before if the correspondent knew that when he filed the videotape? Why didn't the original story include the fact that a Marine in the same unit had been killed 24 hours earlier while searching the booby-trapped dead body of a terrorist?

Within hours of the videotaped incident in the mosque, another Marine was killed and five others wounded by a booby-trapped body they found in a house after a gunfight. Why was this not made part of the original story? Even Amnesty International, no friend to the American armed forces, has reported that the Iraqi terrorists have illegally used white flags to lure coalition forces into ambushes. Yet this, too, is absent in the original story.

Though the Arab media doesn't mention it, the incident is being fully investigated -- even as combat operations continue. If a court martial is convened, the young Marine in the videotape will have a chance to defend his actions. Meanwhile, Arab broadcasts outside Iraq that won't even mention the murder of relief worker Margaret Hassan will replay the "shooting video" for weeks to come as an incitement to join the Jihad.

In the rush to air sensational footage, the "pool" system failed us all. Worse yet, it failed the young soldiers and Marines and their brave Iraqi allies who are fighting to liberate Fallujah from the terrorists' bloody grip. Even though the "shooting video" lacked context and failed to tell the full story -- it became the big story. If it becomes the story of Fallujah, that would be a crime.

 

Good article^

All these statistics are fucking stupid. Mostly children killed my ass. We havn't been killing the children, its the dumbass insurgents with their wreckless kamakazee death tactics that are killing most of the iraqi people and the children. 100,000 people my ass. That study was the least scientific census I have ever seen,

"The most common cause of death is as a direct result of violence, mostly caused by coalition air strikes, reveals the study of almost 1000 households scattered across Iraq. "

Thats a quote from the scientific article. They base all of iraq, on 1000 households. Thats fucking rediculous. I dont hate the iraqi people, there are many good ones. But I hate the insurgents and the islamic extreemists, and I hope that we kill every last one of them.