Marines under mortar attack, crying for their lives...

Marines under mortar attack, crying for their lives...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZlvLmBvOx8

Why our international politicians and especially the Vatican still supports these senseless wars... bring em home, this is not fair and even not your war...

Best wishes from Switzerland

lwwb
Roger

 

Not bloody Likely!!! Army maybe, Swabby okay.
Not a Jar-Head! I say the story was false.

 

too bad the iraqis don't have better aim.

 

"too bad the iraqis don't have better aim. "

why the hell would you want them to have a better aim , I dont want the army to be there but I dont want the people in the army to get killed .

and if I was picking sides i wouldnt side with a bunch of suicide bombing, beheading people and filming it jihadis .

 

Because your "suicide bombing, beheading people and filming it jihadis" have moral superiority.

 

like fuck they do

 

Hate to disappoint you, but the Vatican was very much against this war in Iraq (and the Persian Gulf War, too) from the very get-go, and it still is. The previous pope (JPII) that died last year was very much against it and confronted Bush and his cronies about it a number of times, and was emphatic that it was not a just war.

 

great counter argument

by the way, your sig distresses me, fucking yousef

 

jokes?

 

I could be killing puppies and eating babies and still have moral superiority over any American Soldier in Iraq.

There are two arguments for American involvement in Iraq:

1.Self-protection (absurd fear of WMDs)

Widely discredited.

2.Removal of a brutal dictator

If you examine America's track record of replacing governments, you'll see that anybody with any rational sense at all wouldn't trust them to replace their's. For example: Guatemala, Nicaragua, etc.


This is a provenly unaltruistic invading force - anything done to them is justified.

 

SPOONER

Your a joke, wishing for the death of people who get ordered to do something or face servere consequences. If your so against the war, do something not sit on your butt, mouthing off. You want to remove the powers of our goverment then fine, step up and do so. You have options, mass hits, large scale petitions, who knows it could be you running things. I hear so many complain but none offering solutions, or willing to do more than just complain. If it is so aweful and you live here, get out, there are tons of other countries to choose from. If your not from here, then what does it matter to you unless you are on our goverments target list.

Damn its fine to hate war, the war, ect but wishing for the deaths of men of whom are directed to follow orders is crazy. I dont wish even for the death of the terrorist but rather a change of mind on all parties. After all if Im going to wish why not waste that wish on peace than on better aim.

 

I'm not anti-gun at all. Just anti-hate.
I'll hold the door open to let a soldier enter before me.
I disagree with the reason they are still over there and dying.

 

Dear Charise

you better watch their action and not their words.

Best wishes from Switzerland

lwwb
Roger

 

*sigh*
What I saw in this video is people fearing death. The irony is that the body they are a part of is responsible for great death. I am disgusted by how irrelevant a death of "one of them" is compared to the death of "one of us"

I don;t want dead americans, I don;t want dead Iraqis. The video shows me humans, scared as fuck that they won't see another day. I wish they would think about that incident next time they level a gun at someone.

Thank you and good night.

Spooner - Moral superiority over the administraction possibly. Hard to argue the morals of people in the millitary. I've thought about it, and we have soldiers in Afgahnistan. Would your view be different if it were Canadian Peace Keepers startioned where they have about as much buisness as American Soldiers?

 

lalamort "by the way, your sig distresses me, fucking yousef"

lalamort the fact that cat Stevens wants to see a writer burned alive, and managed to stay out of jail for incitement to murder distresses me too.
I have the quote from him in my sig to remind people of the fact that salman Rushdie is still in hiding and what happened , how do you feel about that?

spooner I went to a number of marches against the Iraq war I don’t want western troops in Iraq .

Americas record of removing brutal dictators is patchy sometimes America has removed a brutal dictator, they helped with the removal of Adolf Hitler.
Post-war West Germany and now a united Germany are I think better than Nazi Germany.
America didn’t do a perfect job with imperial Japan but I think somewhat improved things.

We don’t know whether they will have improved things in Iraq but if they don’t it will I would say have a lot to do with jihadis killing people all the time .

You say that a suicide bombing, beheading people and filming them jihadi as moral superiority over a us soldier. well I would point out that jihad and Islamic imperialism has a worse and longer history of oppression than American imperialism.

Its part of a broader war than just Iraq and its aim is a world wide theocracy

 

Why would you assume I support Canadian troops any more than American. I have no pity for them.

 

the soldiers aren't the ones making the decisions.

ever hear of ethical relativism? how can you say that a certain people have "moral superiority" over another? i believe that both the american government and the "suicide bombing, beheading people and filming it jihadis" are at fault, based on my moral standards. both the christian and muslim religions kill people based on what "god" has told them to do.

 

ethical relativity is relative; used to read many books about it when I was 19; religious people hate it lol

soldiers make the decision now, to join the military, and war is part of the job description. I don't feel the least bit sorry for them; hearing about soldier casualties makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside

even if it were my own family members getting killed over there, it's their fault for making a decision which inevitably put them in that situation

 

The soldiers didn't make the decision to join an army of a state with a long history of imperialism and small-scale genocide?

When, exactly, did conscription begin?

And its pretty easy to judge who has moral superiority - look at nearly any of the complete moral theories (Kantian ethics, utilitarianism) and it is Iraqi Rebels, every time.

 

jihadis join the jihad or religious war against non muslims they choose to do so of their own free will .

their agenda isnt just the war in iraq, its a wider war thats been going on for a very long time and has a worse record than american imperialism.

for some reason maybe racism, maybe occidentaphobia, you dont see this other agenda.

what is it about fundermentalist islam thats so appealing, because if you seem so damn happy to have american soldiers killed, and hope for their death or get a warm fuzzy feeling thinking about us soldiers killed ,you seem to be on the opposing side