MDMA--first time

I have heard that a certain small percentage of people have health/safety issues. I was wondering if this is totally true and what that percentage is.

I am very close to taking MDMA with my love. It would be both of our first times. We are very careful and do our research. WE have tripped together on LSD, aMT, 2C-E, 2C-I and 4-ACO-DMT.

What should we expect, what should we do to prepare and is there a chance that we will react in a negative way?



I will post my experience when it is all said and done.


I appreciate any and all thoughts and suggestions.

Thanks everyone.

 

I hear that some people can be extremely sensitive to it. As with any drug, do a small sample to see what happens. Maybe 5mg, wait and hour... 15mg, wait an hour etc. Sounds time consuming but better safe than sorry, right? Make sure you have some water, good music and some gum. The first time I rolled I did 100mg then another 100mg 1 hour later. That's a pretty good intro to MDMA.

If you're getting real MDMA expect to be blown away. You and your girl will have the most deep and thoughtful conversations possible, connecting physically and emotionally like never before... There's really nothing like it

 

Since you have already done 2ci and aMT, dose 200 mgs MDMA all at once and you should have a really solid empathogenic experience.

At 200 mgs, have some music ready, low lighting and (glowsticks or candles maybe) maybe some massage oils or something. It's difficult to have a bad time on MDMA especially with someone you are really close with but it can sometimes elicit overhwhelming feelings like any psychedelic. Have some water on hand and maybe gum or something to chew on for jaw grinding.


I have heard a small percentage of people don't metabolize MDMA properly, I have never known a person like that in real life, but a single 5 mgs test run may not hurt as Brudof recommended.

 

You might have trouble 'keeping it in your pants' if you get what I mean

 

If we take 5-10 mg at first and are fine, would you say it is then safe to assume that we are good to go and can then take a larger dose?

My love is less experienced with psychedelics. What we have done the most together has been aMT. We usually take about 25 mg, but have taken 40+. Do you think we will still have an epic experience if we take around 100 mg, instead of 200 mg.

We have already connected quite deeply without psychedelics. Our past and recent aMT experiences and our LSD experience have done this for us even more so. If MDMA is the best at this, then I think my mind will be blown.


Also, what is a good dose if one wanted to candy flip? While I have always wanted to try this combo, I doubt I will try it on my first MDMA trial. Although, I think I would really love to try it.

 

Minuscule, and only statistical. I'm pretty sure you have a greater chance of being harmed by a peanut than a dose of MDMA.

That's all you had to say. You are ready. You were ready 6 months ago.

Whenever someone asks that on this forum I link them to this short read:

Have music, lights, access to shower, etc, normal psychedelic prep

Highly unlikely, I think MDMA is one of the most universally liked substances, for some people it's a little weak, for others they have emotional issues, but when it's all said and done, it's a very overtly positive experience.

I would think so.

It won't be as epic, but you can start there if you like. I intro'd my gf at 120mg and it was an amazing time.

If you've done LSD together then this thread is truly overly cautious MDMA is a joke compared to LSD, there's not even any "hard parts" to it. Personally I don't see a reason to do MDMA with my loved one if I have LSD, or 2c-b, or 4-aco-dmt, or really a whole plethora of stuff. You connect much deeper on those epic boundary dissolving psychedelics. MDMA has a very narrow scope; emotions.

Depends how high you want to get

Good luck! Please do keep in mind that many people including myself and my gf get annoying hangovers from MDMA that last up to a week and consist of light depression, anxiety, and irritability. So be prepared for that and just accept it as the cost of squirting out a month's worth of serotonin into your synapses in ~3 hours.

 

LOL you are so pretentious. Only 120 mgs?


Coolrunning dose at 200 mgs, MDMA is up there with the best of them.

 

Yeah 200mg is a good dose. I've only candy flipped once, but I took 2 hits of shitty acid and 200mg of MDMA. It was great, but coming down off MDMA and LSD at the same time is really shitty.

 

She was getting off SSRIs and for someone like me who hasn't really abused his brain with these serotonin bombs I get floored by that

are both these people from PIHKAL pretentious?

:sunny:

 

^ If I'm not mistaken, I believe you are one who says that Pikhal doses are generally lower than recommended psychedelic doses when it comes to 2cx. Same with MDMA.

But no those experiences sound like really solid experiences and not lame in any way, they obviously aren't written by you.

 

I would go with 120-200mg and 1-5 hits of LSD.

 

What I really think is that Shulgin's upper ceiling for dosage is overly conservative. And it's still in the same neighborhood of dosage, 120, and 200. It's not like we're comparing 120 and 400.

They serve to illustrate the strength of the dose you insult me for taking

 

It's not the same neighborhood of effects whatsoever, the difference between 120 and 200 mgs MDMA is like the difference between 50 and 200 ugs of LSD.

 

I don't know if this type of question is a little sketchy, but...

Does 10 doll hairs for 100 mg sound like a fair shake?


Thank you so much guys for your responses. I am excited to say the absolute least. The candy flip is tempting. If it happens, I may try 2 hits and about 100 mgs.

P.S. Writer, I enjoyed reading that.

 

Many will tell you there is no MDMA roll as good as that first one, I wouldn't recommend doing a candyflip the first time with it, although I have actually candyflipped and it is a cool experience.

, I don't recall anyone saying they felt like 200 mgs MDMA was too much, Thismoment is in his 60's and I recommended 200 + mgs and he loves the experience now after a couple lackluster 150 mgs experiences, so the physical effects are not that much to worry about really and the trip is 'easier' in a sense than alot of the more traditional hallucinogens but it's no less transformative at that 200 mgs level. Anyways, that sounds like a fair shake and I'm just trying to give you the optimal first experience with MDMA man, sorry if it's coming off a bit strong.

 

No worries, GB. Thanks for the advice.

Say that I did want to candy flip on my first trial...

What should I take first, the MDMA or the LSD?

Would taking 5-10 mg to test our sensitivity and then proceeding with the candy flip work?



Thanks to all of you.

 

Essentially, would the small test ruin or taint the experience?

 

You should do your low dose test before the day of candyflipping. High on LSD is not the time to find out you are allergic to the MDMA you just ate

Which is also how you should dose: LSD first, MDMA second. You want to take the longer lasting substances first (generally) so that the shorter one you are mixing in is sandwiched comfortably in the middle of the LSD experience.

 

Well normally I'd recommend LSD first and MDMA a couple hours later as it has a shorter duration as Writer mentioned but usually that's to people who have tried both.

The rush of MDMA is entirely unique among psychedelics and you still feel it to a degree when takin the LSD first but it doesn't have quite the super cleansed feeling in conjunction with LSD as it does on it's own. If you only get 100 mgs you probably won't rush that hard anyways and you're looking at crashing in the middle of the LSD peak which I don't know how well that'll go. I've crashed on MDMA and then gone onto a 2cb trip which was solid tho.

Basically I'm of the camp to try psychedelics on their own, especially these two which are such well rounded experiences, so I don't really have a definitive answer for your situation.

Test run won't taint it.

 

Well, I am now looking into some more MDMA so I can go with 200 mg for the first experience. You have convinced us, GB. 8)

I will not be in a dancing atmosphere. Will I become restless?

I am pretty sure you guys have done aMT. How would you compare MDMA to aMT? I know the chemistry behind both. I am just talking about the experience. I am very experienced with aMT. I have come to really, really, really enjoy aMT.

How would you guys compare 200 mg of MDMA to 30 mg of aMT.


Thanks again guys.