so there's been a fair amount of mdma floating around where i am at lately. but i am still just really not so sure about it. when i take mdma i want to have a very pure experience. i want to take pure mdma. not some impure shit, or some pill spiked with coke or meth or god knows what else. it's pretty much all coming from the same source, am i am really beginning to doubt the legitimacy of this source. my friend who took several pills at a rave that has a decent amount of prior experience said that it was some good ecstacy, but there was ALOT of coke in the pills. see, when i take ecstacy i don't want to also be taking coke. then when i talk to this guy and tell him that i don't want fucking coke based x he says "alright yea i have some pure shit too. this is some really good x. there is no comedown whatsoever afterwards. it's very smooth all around." doesn't the experience of rolling induce a comedown and depression several days afterwards? i mean how can this be pure x if there is no comdown? sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. i mean i have heard good reports all around about this stuff. the pills aren't always the same and vary from time to time, and if i really pushed the point i could probably get the best that there was to offer currently. but i am really just not diggin' it. does not seem legit. i am thinking i am just going to have to wait a while until a better source approaches me. how legitimate does this all sound?
dude, why would anyone put cocaine in a pill? How much coke do you think youd need to take orally to get high? A lot more than it would take to snort, so theres no reason why anyone would put their coke in a pill. EcstasyData has like ten reports of cocaine over nine years, so its pretty uncommon. Also, any pills that have cocaine probably dont have any MDMA, or very little. Dont worry about coke, speed is a lot more common. When you say MDMA, do you mean pressed pills or molly powder? try to find molly in capsules, youre going to have the best luck with those. Although, they usually cost 15 dollars a piece in my area, and dont even have that much MDMA usually, not worth it to me. The one time I took MDMA, I didnt have a comedown, but it was a small dose. The only way to tell is to try one.
One time i took .2 of pure MDMA and there was no crappy come down. I felt fine. The other time I rolled on a crappy pill and felt like shit afterward and the next day
there was probably not coke in the pill, its just a stupid thing to do and not worth time for the seller to cut it with that. they would use other things. if its pure and you get it in capsules u can see the mdma crystals or you can just get them in a bag. you will tell if it is cut on the comeup if you have ever done real mdma. u know what the rush and depletion of seratonin feels like opposed to the other stuff
i don't think you guys are understanding me. if my friend said that there was coke in the pill, then there was definitely coke in the pill. there is just no question. i guess i am going to have to try to find some capsules or pure mdma. the problem is that i have never done mdma so i have no way of telling if it is cut or not, and i don't want to find out for myself. that is what i was talking about. won't there be a noticeable serotonin depletion after your roll if it is actually pure mdma? thus this guy saying that there was no comedown is bullshit?
This guy is golden, so far all the pure stuff I've taken has no comedown. Just a nice roll for a couple hours then good cheeriness the following day. Drink Orange Juice a lot while you are rolling on them. Even if there is coke in them, it wouldn't be enough to give you any of the effects of coke, and it wouldn't be like you were actually doing coke. Normally it is just so the body has a different reaction while you are happy like hyper or relaxed or something else desirable.
Eh... youd be surprised how wrong some people can be, but it doesnt matter. There's a difference between a come down and a crash, you always come down from a drug eventually, but Ive never really crashed on anything but OC. he probably meant that theres no crash, which is some what true, for most people at least.
alright cool thanks guys. i was under the impression that there was a moderate crash followed by a depression a few days afterwards. ala the term suicide tuesday. i'm probably going to wait a while anyway. i'm more interested in psychedelics this summer, but i thought i would go ahead and clear that up. the reason i say that he isn't wrong is because my friend has had quite a bit of experience with ecstacy, and also used to be a cokehead. so if he says there was coke in the roll, i believe him. he knows his shit. and where could i get a testing kit? a pharmacy? lol. "hey, do you guys have ecstacy chemical testing kits?"
dude your stupid and def. shouldnt being doing drugs in the first place. Over the thousands of pills ive seen on ecstasydata.org there is like four pills with coke. So unless your buddy personally pressed the pills him self then he is bullshiting not only you but he is fooling him self. Take time to learn about drugs before you do them. People like you are the reason people od because they believe anything there "budddy" tells them. Plus cokehead or excokehead there all shady. Period.
1.) There's no such thing as a "Speed/coke" type or "heroine" based. 2,) SWIM has had plenty of bunk and bomb ecstasy/molly, and on neither ever had anything similar to a comedown. I guess it's kinda of like having the best day of your life, and then returning to normal (or maybe a little zapped cuz of all the prior intensity). That can bum some people out, but that's about all. Everyone's different though.
jesus you guys just won't let this go will you. i'm not saying that it was based with coke, just that the pill had coke in it. he has had plenty of experience with coke before, and as well as with ecstacy. enough to be able to tell if something has coke in it. besides, it's not like he said the roll slightly resembled having coke in it. he said that the pill had a pretty fair amount of coke in it. enough to be able to tell that it was blatently obvious. not only that but the guy who sold them even admitted to them having coke in them. so honestly now, why do you still think that i am wrong? this kid is one of my best friends, so im not really sure where you get the authority to say that he is shady. he has actually literally saved my life once before. and i would trust him with my life again. so i will take him for his word. experience + trustworthy = he is wrong and a liar? i don't think so. besides how exactly am i not taking time to learn about the drugs before i do them? did i not make a thread specifically for learning about ecstacy? sorry rc headache26, but your rediculous.
There's no crash, just a loss of serotonin. Work on getting it up while you are rolling and you will be golden.
it doesnt matter how much you trust your friend or how much experience he has with coke or ecstasy. Some amphetimene or just the MDMA in the pill could have triggered a flashback or made him feel like he just blew a line. Like others have mentioned, coke in an "x" pill is rare
http://www.eztest.com/shop/ http://www.dancesafe.org/testingkits/ or, http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=342330&f=126
Christ what's up with all the bad fuckin vibes in here? The dude may not be completely wrong, and even if he is there's no reason to be a dick to him. There are plenty of coke like stimulants that would be cheap enough to cut a roll with (dimethocaine). Also seeing as pills CAN be cut with coke why diss this dude????? Stop being dicks guys. For real. On a side note...I'm rollin pretty well myself .
I don't think people are being complete blatant assholes, they are just trying to dispel a ridiculous hyped up myth that has followed pressed pills for the longest fucking time...the classic coke/H "based" roll, which as others have mentioned loses any dealer/manufacturer a LOT of money...why would anyone look for H or coke to cut with when piperazines,amphetamines,dxm, and even caffeine are WAY cheaper and easier to come buy, not to mention that several of these at higher doses could indeed make one feel "coked" out. To the original poster, no one is trying to jump down your throat, we're simply saying that just because you friend swears that something contains a certain something does not make him right no matter how much coke he's done, he's simply not a laboratory capable of breaking down pill contents everyone knows someone like this who swears to the heavens they can pick a chemical out just because they have used it in the past; also your best bet is to get yourself the Mecke reagent if you can only afford one type, which was posted in several above links, get some of that powder and see if the reagent turns an instant dark black, voila your golden.
lol, thanks smitty. i mean i can understand the sensitivity of e heads about the subject of coke being in the pills. but i am really not talking about a myth here, i am talking about hard factual evidence from someone that i know and trust -- as well as the guy that actually sold them that probably DID know the guy who pressed them. i'm not saying that this is a common occurence, or even that all of the e pills i have seen have coke in them. i am just saying that for this one specific time the pills actually did have coke in them. i don't see why that isn't atleast a little bit plausible. i have talked to other people who have gotten pills from the same source that said they were very clean and had no adulterants whatsoever. but it just seems like to me e is alot more sketchy than almost any drug out there because there is really no way of telling what you are getting. which is why i am so careful about what i am getting. i am not dissing the legitimacy of ecstacy in any way whatsoever, merely questioning how to identify the legitimacy. this seems like the most pertinent issue when it comes to ecstacy use to me. besides, there is absolutely no way you are going to convince me that i am wrong about this. i am certain beyond a shadow of a doubt. i guess it's really up to you to decide what you think, but my mind is made up. call me a dumbass, or think that i am an idiot. i really don't care. but really you are a jackass for thinking so.
