Mdma Synthesis????

Is there anyone who could tell me how out of date brightstars method is? Also if it is not to bad what substitutions can/could be made. I know this was back in the 90's and some of the chems are hard to get, but is there anything that is now on the watch list???? This dosn't seem too hard, but if there is an easier one please let me know. Im interested in ever bit of helpful information that you can give me.

 

well safrole oil is probably gonna be the hardest thing to get your hands on

 

can you link the synth process. im interested aswell

 

http://www.mdma.net/mdma.html

Not that hard to find. I wouldn't recommend it though unless you are somewhat knowledgeable with chemistry, as it isn't the easiest (Or at least doesn't sound like it)...

 

yea i have no experience in chemistry at all i just want to see how its done

 

Well maybe you can meet a chemistry major and get them to do it That would be the best way I think...

 

I just made DM++A2 but im not going to tell you AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAH

 

It doesn't have to be that hard. And Bright Star's method is the easiest I've found.

 

you really need the proper equipment, materials, and training to be able to pull this off.
For me (a trained biochemist), the equipment requirement alone puts a big strain on what can be done. Not only do you need a proper vacuum hood, you'll need a full reflux setup and vacuum source (for filtration and cleaning). Needless to say, those items are not cheap, but they can be found in many low-end labs. The synth is pretty straightforward, but still daunting as there will be a lot of math and chemical equations to work out, basic lab training and techniques may not be enough with this one. Experience counts.

 

isnt there liek some sort of step by step photo guide out there??

 

i think we all wish there was a step by step photo guide......

 

haha
+1 =)))))))

 

Not if you know where to look..it's there

 

you can extract safrole oil from nutmeg

 

Lol he should grow his own nutmeg trees so he is self sufficient and will never need to order chems on teh watch list

 

Well, there are two books i would recommend to you first. The first one is
Zubrick's "The Organic Chem Lab Survival Manual" ISBN 0-471-38732-0"
The second one is
Strike's "Total Synthesis 2" http://www.amazon.com/Total-Synthes...bs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220976281&sr=8-1

and here is rhodium's archive on erowid.org http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/index.html

Hope this helps. You can also you the root bark from sassafras albidum. Depending on where you live it might be some around. There are plenty of trees in my area!!!

 

Your best bet used to be the-Hive. But since Hobart (Strike) and the Science Alliance aren't 'happening' anymore you might come across some pitfalls. Don't try making MDMA from scratch unless you DO PROPER RESEARCH and USE PROPER GEAR. Trying to go ghetto, you will probably wind up blowing yourself (and others) up. NO JOKE at all bro.
If you could acquire the ketone (MDP-2-P) somehow, a reduction using sodium cyanoborohydride is possible. The shitty part would be making methylamine (a highly watched chemical). But if you can find the ketone, methylamine might be within grasping reach as well. Making the methylamine from hexamine and hydrochloric acid in MeOH is easy but you will smell of rotted fish for weeks! MONTHS EVEN!! Wear a smock and gloves and do it outside or use a vented hood if possible.
Reducing the ketone to MDA is possible by subbing the methylamine with ammonium acetate. Ammonium acetate is easier to acquire and doesn't smell too bad.
The key to the simplicity of these reductive aminations of MDP-2-P is the sodium cyanoborohydride. Just a magnetic stirplate and sep funnel and you're off to the races.

But to acquire the golden oil is the hard part and MDP2P from Sassy oil is going to call for a good strong vacuum and some gnarly glassware. Don't go ghetto!

It seems like making MDMA these days is a waste of money. The super labs get the precursors for cheap and that's because they're corrupted. A clan chemist wishing to make their own will see that it doesn't come as cheap as you think. It's dirt cheap to buy E out there on the streets now. Prices dropped like crazy and that's because of all the super big labs going off on making the crap. It's really just best to leave it to beaver.

 

Sodium cyanoborohydride is used for nothing I'm aware of accept to make meth or mdma. Ordering it is pretty risky. It can be made from sodium borohydride and hydrogen cyanide, but hydrogen cyanide was what the nazi's used to gas jews, order it and the DEA is the least of your worries. Not hard to make, but have a fine fume hood and nothing downwind that will be missed.

 

It says he lives in PA. He should be able to find the trees anywhere in the state at lower altitudes, but it likes loose soils found closer to the coastal plain. S. New Jersey and Delaware are absolutely infested, and they tend to grow as smaller thickets.

Please don't kill living trees! Sassafras, when found, usual colonizes its own area of forest after traumatic events like storm damage and fire. It needs full sun, so as the colony grows, some plants will not survive because larger trees don't let the little ones get sun - harvest them please - their roots are often viable for a year or more after the tree dies.

 

Well, you do not have to kill the source tee to retrieve the bark from the root, the roots tends to be fine after the bark has been stripped. I use the same group of trees for the essential oils for my old fashioned root beer for over three years now. But your are right please do not kill the trees.