Meaning of life?... reality?..........the universe?

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  1. †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg

    †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg Eminent Herbalist

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    The universe offers a paradox too great for the finite mind to grasp. As the living brain cannot conceive of a nonliving brain - alothough it may think it can - the finite mind cannot understand the infinite. We maybe chip a few splinters from the great stone pillar or reality, even then it's a false sense of knownledge.

    Despite the increasing amount of avaible facts, there's remarkbly few insights. Few have grasped the Princple of Reality; New knownledge just leads too new mysteries.

    The greatest mystery the universe offers is not lfe but SIZE. Size compasses life. The child who is not at home says "Daddy, whats is above the sky?" And father says: "The darkness of space" The child: "What is beyond space?" The father: "The galaxy" The child" "Beyond the galaxy?" The father: "another galaxy" Child: " Beyond the other galaxies?" Father: Noone knows"

    You see? Size defeats us. For the fish in the lake in which he lives in a universe. What does the fish think when he is jerked up by the mouth through the silver limits of exssitence and into a new universe where the air drowns him and the light is blue? Where huge bipeds with no gills stuff him into a box to die?

    Or one might take the point of a pencil and magnify it. One reaches the point where a stunning realzation strikes home: The pencil point is not solid, it is composed of atom which whirl and revolve like a trillion demon planets on a loose net held together by gravitation. Shrunk to size the distances between these atoms might become aeons, light years away. The atoms themselfs are composed of revolving protons and electrons. One step down into sub-atomic particiles. And then what? Tachyons? Nothing?

    Of course not, Everything in the universe denies nothing. To suggest conclusions to things is on impossibility. If you fell outward to the limit of the universe would you find a fence that says dead end? No. You might find something hard and rounded as a chick might see the inside of an egg. If you should peck through the shell, what great torrentail light might shien through the shell? Might you look through and discover our whoel universe is but one atom on a blade of grass?... a blade of grass that might have only exsisted only a day or two in the realm?

    What if that blade of grass was cut? Would our universe start to die? would it rot? Turnign brown and yellow? Perhaps its allready bugun to happen? we say the world has moved on, maybe its begun to dry up.

    Think of how small such a concept of things makes us. If a God watches over it all, does He actually mete out justice for a race of nats amount an inifinitude of other nats? Does he's eye see a sparrow fall when the sparrow is really less than a speak of hydrogen floating disconnected in space? And if he does see.. what must be the nature of such a God? Where does he live? How is it possible to live past infinity?

    Imagine the sand in the desert, and imagine a trillion universes, - not worlds, universes, encased in each grain of sand, with each universe an infininy to others. We tower over the universes from our pitful blade of grass vantage point, with one swing of your shoe you may knock a billion worlds flying off into the darkness,in a chain never to be completed.


    SIZE...size......size....

    Yet, suppose further, Suppose that all the worlds all the universes, met in a single nexus, a single pylon, a Tower. A stairway maybe? Perhaps the a God? Would you dare to climb? Could it be that somewhere above this all there is a Room?
     
  2. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    When you look at it, at size, it doesnt come to much really. I imagine, of course imagine because I dont actually know, but I imagine that the macrocosm or the Absolute Form of God is much the same and in fact a mirror reflection of the microcosm in that all multiverses are ciruclar in form. Every atom in our body is circular, the principle of revolution. What compses the atom, the subatomic particles, quarks, tau leptons, etc. are generated by a vibrational energy composed from a sort of primordial light, and I am of the belief that this light, Om, coded vibrational patterns of the blueprint of the universes, are also circular and are composed of thought. The thought is the same substance (thought is a substance after all, only on a different level) as the dream matter which composes the space between the seperate universes, and my belief is that we are a Dream, a Cosmic Dream, that God is having.
    The Om, Chi, life force, whatever is guided by divine thought or Christ Consciousness (Krsna Consciousness etc) and this consciousness is guided by the dream of God, and one transcends the limitations of human inability to comprehend, the mind attunes itself with the Overmind and comes to a state of perfect harmony. We are indeed insignificant when judged by the external universe, but when we stop judging ourselves there is nothing left to judge. It just is and its just perfect!
    Anyone, just my opinion, I will type a post here copied from one of mine in the LSD forum to clarify my ideas :D
     
  3. ChronicallyTarded

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    meaning of life? hehe
     
  4. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    The Seven Lokas (Sphere's of reality, or Planes, Levels, etc.)
    7. Satyaloka : This loka is the sphere within all spheres, or loka within all lokas, and is God Himself as He is in His Creation. It is nameless, formless, vibrationless, spirit pure and without karma. This is the loka at the Heart of all lokas, it is the innermost abode of all truth and love. Sat is Truth, Sat is God, Sat is your true Nature. Hence, Sat Chit Ananda.
    6. Tapaloka : This loka is the next sphere to come into existance. It is what is known in the West as the Holy Spirit. It is Om, the primal Sound which caused matter to be, directed by the Will of God. We can commune with Om only after we are blessed with divine insight. Om is the Inaccessable loka, because unless we "become as little children" (pure, even if only temporarily) we can not have access to God's initial emanation.
    5. Janaloka : Jana, or Intelligence, is what composes this loka. This loka is what is known as the Son of God, because it is the Intelligence that guides Om, or the Holy Spirit. To tap into this level or reality is to tap into Christ Consciousness. This is the Grand Conductor of our Cosmic vibrational symphony, it is the intelligence with which "one can move mountains". This is where, intially, the idea of seperate existance, or individuality, seperation amongst creation, begins to descend.
    4. Maharloka : This loka is the Great Door which connect the spiritual planes and the material planes. This is the first level of reality which when transcended reveals the higher planes of God's Creation.
    3. Swarloka : This is the loka of individuality, itself, or the atom. This loka is the magnetic aura which surrounds every atom, and is the Great Vacuum. This loka is the absence of all creation, or at least the reflection of all creation, and is the Void which we may easily become confused in when attempting to understand the finer, subtle electricities which compose existance.
    2. Bhuvarloka : Bhuvarloka is the second to the last emantion of spirit. It is composed entirely of the subtle electricities as mentioned above. All gross matter is absent here, so this loka is the Ordinary, or Simple Vacuum. The Light of Creation is only reflected here, and this immense power (thought MUCH weaker compared to the ascending lokas) can be a cause for much destruction or much positive energy.
    1. Bhuloka : This loka is your reality as you see it from the time you shed the innocence of childhood until the time you begin to transcned existance. This is the world and universe as you know it, and is the most complex only because we, using the miscreation of thought, designed it that way. But it is essentially very simple and is easily transcended when one begins yoga (soul-union) or dyhana (meditation).

    The Koshas (Sheaths, veils of cosmic deluison)
    5. The core of all matter, the Heart, the Chit of Sat Chit Ananda. Chit is the cause of existance. It is Love, divine love. This is what causes all attraction towards Sat, God. This is the glue that binds atoms together seemingly automatically. This Love causes all attraction and allows for perfect balance and harmony within the macrocosmic and microcosmic (reflections of one and the other in the same) realms.
    4. This kosha is Truth, the Magnetic Intelligence which guides the discrimination between what is false and what is reality.
    3. This is Manas, or Mind, the ego which is the aftermath of intelligence. Manas and Chitta are the polar ends of the structure of mentality, as one leads to ego awareness (seperation) and the other leads to God consciosness (Oneness).
    2. Pranamaya Kosha is the kosha, obviously, of Prana, or the vital life-energy which sustains all living organisms. This is the energy, in Asia known as Chi, which is absorbed through the medulla oblongota and is thus evenly disrtibuted throughout the body, resting at all chakras through the channels called nadis.
    1. This is gross matter, the nourishment of physical bodies, as compared to prana, the nourishment of astral or spiritual bodies.

    The Vacuum is something that is not exactly important as it is a diversion to Sat. The vacuum is something that we were not there to comprhened, thus, it is incomprehensible. A taste for it leaves one confused and wrapped up in the negative polarity, or tapas, one of the three gunas (direction of thought-generation).

    The Gunas are three in number and are as follows :
    1. Satva : Positive energy
    2. Rajas : Neutral energy
    3. Tamas : Negative energy
    Prakriti is the female cause of creation of which all Nature is a manifestation of, and works through Her three Gunas. In other word's Prakriti is just another name for what we commonly understand to be Mother Nature, a term which is often thrown around very loosely. Her cause, Purusha, is the name for the Nameless, the indescribable, God the Father of Cosmic Vibrational Existance.
    If we are to take into consideration that we are composed of atoms, just as all gross matter is, then we will very easily understand the Oneness of vibrational harmony. Every atom in your body is composed of it's own universe, and ascending the structure of the atom one comes to know the primal cause to be Love, the Intelligence that directs it, the Sound which it is generated by, and the Father of which it is emanated from.
    Understanding God is impossible, but one can be directed by the Will of God, indeed one may awaken one's own consciousness as the Mind of God the Cosmic Dreamer, rather than remain dreamed by our very own manifestation from the Kundalini.
    It is most definitley a reversal process and the mind must transcend its simple nature in order to grasp the more subtle levels of reality, and this is easily, actually automatically gained through LSD but it wears off and tends to confuse the mind experience. But with meditation, this becomes apparent, no matter what you call them names are just meant for easy access. There are subtle structures to the nature of the atom, and everything is a reflection of itself. The atom is a reflection of truth, truth is a reflection of Om, Om is a reflection of Spirit, Spirit is a reflection of God, and all of this shines brightly across the darkness of maya *
     
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  6. †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg

    †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg Eminent Herbalist

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    Very interesting, many times things along these lines have floated through my mind.
     
  7. dewy191

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    i've pondered what you just said ever since I saw that beginning of the simpsons where it zooms out of their living room into the galaxies then into the universe then it goes back to cells and tissues and comes out of homers head.

    oh simpsons you are so wise
     
  8. smokepot

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    i always sit back fucked up and really think about life, other days i have pessemestic views sometimes optomistic. Like your born you get older have to work your told what to do others prosfer and live easy lives some dont idk the world is hard to grasp sometimes.
     
  9. mr.greenxxx

    mr.greenxxx Not an Average Bear

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    in the words of john rambo:
    Live for nothing, or die for Something...

    listen to these words... the guy took out a few hundred strong with a single mounted machine gun... i guess he wanted revenge since the only hot girl he has seen for years got raped by vietnam soldier wanabe's

    fuck the world xD





    hahaha rambo is silly film man, alot of headshots that are as realistic as blazed chipmunks
     
  10. Mother's Love

    Mother's Love Generalist

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    "What else is there? You're born, you live the best you can while you're here, and someday you go back to the Mother. After that, who knows?"
    ~Valley of Horses, Jean Auel


    The reason I don't follow one god is because I don't know that there is one god. when I think of the possibility I think of the universe expanding, I feel small and it isn't pleasant. If there is one god or many, i don't think they'd want us to feel bad about it.

    Outstanding Post..... OP
     
  11. †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg

    †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg Eminent Herbalist

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    ;) ty,


    What if there's one god for this reality, and a god for him and one for that one? The possibilites are endless.
     
  12. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    the meaning of life, the universe, and everything is 42.
     
  13. BraveSirRubin

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    Exactly.


    The rest of you are over-comlicating it.
     
  14. DonVito

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    for some reason i just cant work up the effort to read all of the posts in this thread. my eyes burn and i just wanna smoke a few more hits and chill out and read short posts LOl. the meaning of life and the universe and shit is something im really interested in aswell so ill probably end up reading this thing here sometime :).
     
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    BTW i know this is kinda fake and really doesnt have anything to do with "reality" but i like that show stargate. it really puts our history together in a way that makes sence with the universe and everything. its a cool perspective on the way things could be. if anyone has watched the show at all you would understand what i mean. everything from it is kinda worked into how like whats going on in real time here on earth.
     
  16. †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg

    †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg Eminent Herbalist

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    :p

    I think its worth reading.... but, of course I do.lol

    I saw that show late at night once, idk, I was just kinda like "Wdf?" Ended up watching some old ass star trek, and was like... "wdf?" again.

    I don't understand Sci-fi shit.
     
  17. skamikaze

    skamikaze Coffee Addict

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    but whats the question?
     
  18. Reefer Rogue

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    The meaning of life is subjective. We create our own meaning in our own lives by the choices we make due to the beliefs and values which we desire. We live for happiness. There is not one set path. Instead billions of individual paths cross and interact and even adapt. This is society. We are completely free from a master in the sky, there is no human nature, no divine plan. This is reality, this is life, what we know, we must begin from the cogito. We think therefore we are. The universe is more complex and contentious. I believe in evolution, rationality and evidence. This is knowledge as is experiance. I have no experiance of god, thus no knowledge. Only we can make the choices, no one makes them for us. Whatever you want your meaning of life to be, go out and create it because a man is judged on what he does not what he says. To know oneself one must assert oneself.
     
  19. ESRUOS ENO

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    And I am no more than a Atom of Hydrgen. In a particle excelerator. Infinite yes But still ONE........
     
  20. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Even more evidence for what I am saying! The universe, or multiverses, are mirror reflections of the microcosm. If the funadamental principles and laws of the inner most structure of gross matter is circular in form, revolutionary, it only makes sense that the universe or multiverses act accordingly.
    You are what you eat after all.
    Namaste
     
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