Meat Flavoured Food

Discussion in 'Vegetarian' started by NightRose, Jan 15, 2007.

  1. NightRose

    NightRose idiosynractic rose

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    I've noticed that you get alot of meat flavoured food around (noodles, chips, etc). Ive stayed away from this kind of food because it tastes like the animal, and I've been a strict vegitarian for around three years now. My dad says that I'm being silly in not eating it as it is just a flavouring. Is it silly of me? is it okay to eat it as it's meat "flavoured" food?

    I only eat sea food, diary and poultry if this helps.
     
  2. Lazuli Blue

    Lazuli Blue Member

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    You are NOT a vegetarian if you eat seafood, and especially if you eat poultry!!!

    Try looking at the third sticky on this forum's front page.

    A strict vegetarian eating poultry and seafood? LOL!:lol:
     
  3. WalkerInTheWoods

    WalkerInTheWoods Member

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    What is sea food and poultry if not meat?

    Do you mean beef instead of meat? I don't know. I am confused.
     
  4. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    night rose, quit posting that you eat that crap in here. You have done this repeatedly.
    Sorry, you may aspire to vegetarianism, but if you simply have dairy, you are not a strict veg (except as a Vaishanava), let alone eating animals.

    if you eat a living animal, sea creature, fowl or mammal you are not a vegetarian.
    you are an omnivore, which means just like the rest of your family.
    you want the "cachet" of being veg?
    quit LYING to people and DO IT. Quit taking sentient life for your food or facial creme.
    Walk the walk and lay off the talk.
    as for the natural flavors (which are usually animal derived) Most veggies shy away from this until they have researched the ingredients.
     
  5. Kastenfrosch

    Kastenfrosch Blaubeerkuchen!! Lifetime Supporter

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    I'd even stay away from artificial flavors. I don't eat meat, so I don't want the taste of it either. Same with mock meats. I quit eating meat, to not eat meat. So I don't need any fake meat.
     
  6. 3littlebirds

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    I would definitely reconsider calling yourself a "strict vegetarian"
    I am confused as to why you wouldnt want things flavored with meat...if you eat meat anyway.
    There are meat flavored chips?! where have I been...
     
  7. NightRose

    NightRose idiosynractic rose

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    excuse me did i ask for intence critisism, no!

    There are many different types of vegitarians out there. vegitarians are people who do not eat red meat. Vegans are people who dont eat anything that comes from an animal.

    And by the way this is a forum, your meant to post on here about all kids if different issues. The posts that we post on here not only help us but other people as well, if I posted a thread asking for help chances are theres going to be another person wanting to know the same thing. Im just helping it along :) :p

    And what I've posted two threads on food big whoop. lol
     
  8. lucyinthesky16

    lucyinthesky16 pirate wench

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarian

    that might help

    im afraid they're right, you are not a vegetarian. according to wiki, you are a pescetarian. so if you really and truely want to "fit into a cache" as drummin put it, that would be it

    as for the flavoring, my mother and i had this fight many many times before. many times how they get the flavoring is from broth, or the water the animal was boiled in. so while your actually not eating meat, an animal did die in the process and it wouldnt be vegetarian. however, foods like morningstar farms and bocca get their flavorings from different herbs and vegetables, and probably chemicals, seeing as how they arent organic. (if you notice, their stuff really doesnt taste like meat anyways, which doesnt bother me a bit!)
     
  9. mrsshf

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    You are not a vegetarian if you eat animals. Fish and birds are animals. People like you who continue to insist that they are "vegetarians" when they have merely stopped eating cows and pigs confuse the issue and cause problems for actual vegetarians when dealing with the non-vegetarian public.

    As for meat flavorings, most "natural" meat flavorings are derived from animals, so I don't eat those. I have no problem with mock meats as long as they don't actually contain anything that came from an animal. I enjoy the occasional Boca Burger, Chik'n nuggets, or Gardenburger Riblets or cutlets. My husband has had a problem getting away from the whole "center of the plate" mentality, and these products have been a Godsend that allows him to eat foods that are somewhat familiar without contributing to cruelty.
     
  10. 3littlebirds

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    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/vegetarian

    veg·e·tar·i·an /ˌvɛdʒɪˈtɛəriən/ [vej-i-tair-ee-uhn]
    –noun
    1. a person who does not eat or does not believe in eating meat, fish, fowl, or, in some cases, any food derived from animals, as eggs or cheese, but subsists on vegetables, fruits, nuts, grain, etc.
     
  11. NightRose

    NightRose idiosynractic rose

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    Would you like me to repeat what i said earlier about my definition of a vegitarian. Ask anyone and theyd agree with me. There are hundreds of vegitarians like me.
     
  12. NightRose

    NightRose idiosynractic rose

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    possibly thousands
     
  13. NightRose

    NightRose idiosynractic rose

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    There are many types of vegitarian, NOT JUST ONE. Read this. Educate yourselves.

    Lacto Ovo Vegetarian
    A lacto ovo vegetarian does not eat meat, fish or poultry, but eats eggs and milk. They eat eggs and products made with eggs in them, yogurt, cheese, milk and ice creams.

    Lacto Vegetarian
    A lacto vegetarian does not eat meat, fish, poultry or eggs, but includes dairy products in their diet. They will eat milk, ice cream (that does not include eggs), yogurt and cheese. They would avoid ice creams, baked goods, pancakes and veggie burgers that contain eggs.

    Vegan
    A vegan does not eat any fish, meat, poultry, eggs, dairy products or foods that contain any of these products. They also do not use any non-food items that contain products from animals, including wool from sheep, leather and silk. Vegans often do not eat honey, because bees may be killed while harvesting it.

    According to many vegans, it is pronounced VEE-gun. A vegan diet consists of vegetables, grains, beans, nuts, fruits and seeds. This diet tends to be high in fiber and moderate in protein and fat.


    A vegan will not use margarine that has casein, a milk product, in it and they do not use shoes that are made from leather. Vegans do not eat white granulated sugar because it is often processed by using char derived from animal bones to whiten the sugar. They also do not use products that are tested on animals, as are many cosmetics.

    Macrobiotics
    A macrobiotic diet is mainly vegetarian, but macrobiotic diets often include seafood. In this diet all other meat products are excluded, as are eggs and dairy products. They also do not eat "nightshade vegetables" (potato, pepper and eggplant), refined sugar and tropical fruits. This diet contains many foods found in Asian countries such as miso soup, root vegetables (daikon and lotus) and sea vegetables (seaweed, kelp, arame).

    It emphasizes eating locally grown foods that are in season. Meals consist of 50% to 60% grains, 25% locally grown produce, and the rest of the diet mainly consists of beans and soups. In lesser amounts fruits, nuts and seeds are eaten.


    This diet is based on the Chinese principles of yin and yang. Some people follow this diet as a philosophy of life and others follow it for health reasons.

    Fruitarian
    A fruitarian is a person who only eats fruits and vegetables that are actually classified as fruits such as avocados, nuts, seeds, eggplant, zucchini and tomatoes.

    Raw or Living Food Diet
    One who follows a raw food diet is a person who for the most part only eats raw foods that are not cooked. One who follows this type of diet believes that cooking changes food in a negative way and makes it less nutritious, diminishing the vitamin and mineral contents of the food. Most people who follow a raw-food diet only eat between 50% to 80% of their food raw. There is some logic to a raw food diet in the fact that cooking food destroys nutrients. But cooking food on the other hand makes foods easier to digest, which often offsets the anti-nutritional factors.
     
  14. Lazuli Blue

    Lazuli Blue Member

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    I think YOU need to re-read your own post.

    Where did it say that a vegetarian eats an animal?
    The closest you came to was Macrobiotics, which admits that it is mainly vegetarian. MAINLY meaning NOT COMPLETELY.

    Now think about the word Vegetarian (which by the way is NOT spelled vegitarian). Take a really good look at that word and try to find meat in it.

    The original vegetarians were vegans, it's people like you who forced us take on another 'label'.

    Face it, YOU ARE NOT A VEGETARIAN AND YOU ARE NOT WELCOME IN THIS FORUM.
     
  15. Lazuli Blue

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    Those hundreds of vegetarians you speak of... AREN'T VEGETARIANS!!!!!
     
  16. Lazuli Blue

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    You are taking my vegan lifestyle and ripping it apart with your inaccurate definition of vegetarianism and it is really pissing me off.
     
  17. WalkerInTheWoods

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    Using your definition of vegetarian there are billions. :p

    But not only did you say that you are a vegetarian but you said you are a strict vegetarian. I know no one who would remotely consider a strict vegetarian to be one that eats fish and poultry.

    To answer your question I say avoid it. I don't know what is so natural about added flavor.
     
  18. stephaniesomewhere

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    maybe they are right about the literacy problem in oz!

    :H
    nightrose you answered your own question, a lact ovo vegetarian eats milk, cheese and eggs...Not fish or chicken. Druminmumma was right in that the closest you get is pescatarian, those who eat milk, eggs, cheese and fish. You did however say you ate chicken so you can't even use that word. The word for someone who doesn't eat red meat, well as far as I know every person who I have ever met that is the same as you says "I don't eat red meat".
    Its a great thing and a real step in the right direction. Not everyone goes vego or vegan straight away so you are really taking a step in the right direction. It does however make it harder for us who don't eat any of the extras if you don't stick to the labels and help educate people, restaurants, the world in general as to the differences.
    :)
     
  19. Bumble

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    Why do people care about labels? I guess us vegetarians are that cool?..lol
     
  20. stephaniesomewhere

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    don't really care about labels myself, was a convenient word when maybe I should have used "dictionary definitions" instead. It does cause problems for people who eat out when others call themselves by particular "names" but then say "oh but I eat that" or accept eating food that does not sit within the generally acceptable and historical "definition" of what that "name", "label" or "definiton" is.
    :)
    My vegetarianism has nothing to do with coolness and I think you would find that those who are serious about what they do or don't eat and stick with it for a long time generally decide this on their own without the need to validate what they do with others, therefore nullifyng the idea of "coolness".
    :)
     

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