meditation for beginners

Discussion in 'Yoga and Meditation' started by malky, Dec 20, 2007.

  1. malky

    malky Member

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    Aw right troops.

    jist wanted to see if yooze have goat any tips anat fur getting intae ra meditation ? fur beginers like

    Just bouncin out ma nut and really need to calm it doon.


    Cheers
     
  2. Bhaskar

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    a) Breathe deep.
    b) Take time to spell your words correctly.
    c) Breathe some more.
     
  3. malky

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    Cheers Bhaskar

    aye spelins no ma strong point but i'll do ma best for yoos yanks.

    So breathing is the key right ? hows about a wee bit o bob hope ? would that dae the trick ? Goane stick on sum chillout tunes and sort the breathin out.

    Hiv yoose no got a faq or sum good links anat ?
     
  4. Bhaskar

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    Meditation is to be learnt directly from a teacher not over the internet, and definitely not with a flippant attitude.
     
  5. malky

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    hear dinnae come the wideo wi me.

    Jist looking fir abit o advice anat no. i's aw right but ma old pal google sorted us oot no.

    Jist incase embdy else is efter some tips anat have a wee swatch at this :

    http://www.naturalbloom.com/articles/meditation-17/

    uv geed this a go fur comin doon aff ra billy whizz and i't does ra trick if yoose canne get any bob hope no.
     
  6. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Meditation is whatever you want to focus on.

    Exercise a little caution there.

    Set goals.

    Start swimming.

    And expect alot of resistance.



    x
     
  7. Chodpa

    Chodpa Senior Member

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    Aw wow. Great accent.

    Bit of Scottish in my own background. Got some photos of Grandpa on horse with kilt and sword and the like.

    Anyhow, I think there is the cult of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar around there which might provide some techniques with follow up. Also, there are usually free residence vippassana courses. I tried to do a search but by search engine is too commercial and nothing free comes up.

    Maybe though plug in - free vippassana meditation course - at your end and see how our pal does, aye?

    Best of luck to yah.
     
  8. Chodpa

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    Bhaskar, you're getting a bit cranky are you not? What noone posting anything savvy at Hinduism enough for you? Sorry about that.
     
  9. Bhaskar

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    Maybe I am, I don't know. I am just sick of dabblers. If you're not going to take the teachings and practices seriously, its a waste of time and energy, not to mention great disrespect to the masters.
    And I do strongly feel it is not something to be learnt from skimming through a webpage or watching a 2-minute video on you tube. If you really want to learn, make some meaningful effort, get off your ass and find a teacher.

    So perhaps I'm crany. Perhaps this guy just pushed a button with the deliberate bad spelling (he spelt the topic of the post just fine...) and the flippant attitude.
     
  10. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    True masters would not take the idea of disrespect seriously. They are cosmic souls. They don't take anything personally. Not any more. You can't touch them with earthly ideas of what is right and wrong.

    Dabblers. Everyone must dabble first. Learn to crawl before walking. Giggle at those who crawl if you like. It was not so long ago that you were among them.

    Meditation. Can be formal or informal. Indoor or outside. Sit in lotus position or sit in easy chair. None of this truly matters. It all belongs to the outside of you. We wish to journey inward, away from all notion of concepts.

    To do this, we must wear down the mountain which blocks your way. The mind itself. We will slice through this mountain with a silk thread. We will do this by persistance and patience. We will work on it a little every day.

    At some point, a crack in your perception occurs.

    You will change as a person after that.

    You will be born again.



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  11. Bhaskar

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    It may not affect them, but without respect, you will not be able to learn. It affects the student, not the master.

    You're talking about externals. In journeying inwards, attitude matters a lot. That's what I'm talking about. Without some sort of dedication to the goal, you will have no persistence or patience.

    Anyway, it is not my desire to argue. I'm out.
     
  12. malky

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    gonae tape still game an only an excuse fur us oan hogmanay ? ahm oot to get pure mingin by ra way.

    CHeers troops
     
  13. aesther

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    bhaskar is wrong and has got the wrong idea of meditation, maybe his ego has grown to big too be a real meditator. i think a 'flippant' attitude is exactly what is needed for meditation, especially in the beginning.
     
  14. Bhaskar

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    Excuse me if I don't feel completely hurt and shattered by your stinging criticism.
     
  15. Lizzie~Bee

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    No offense Bhaskar, but wouldn't someone just as easily be able to teach themself in their own ways at their own paces? And if it's a journey into oneself, wouldn't it be better to do it yourself? This is just me taking a whack at guessing, because a friend of mine meditates all the time, and has been trying to invite me over to do so with him. (No ride, of course, haha.) He seems like he's perfectly content with his own meditation, and he's never said anything about having a teacher.
     
  16. Bhaskar

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    It is possible to do so. It is also possible to study astrophysics without going to university and learning from a professor.
    Anyway, malky started this thread asking for someone to teach him meditation.

    Also, spirituality is a trip into your self and not your ego. It is very very very easy to fall prey to that, particularly without wise guidance.
     
  17. Lizzie~Bee

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    I think astrophysics is a little bit of a jump as a metaphor.. But I'm not saying you're completely wrong. I mean, guidance in someone who knows more about different kinds of meditation I would undertand. Even here in this thread. But can someone really tell a person that they're wrong at doing something that's supposed to be in their comfort zone?

    Ah, my words are all jumbled. Sorry if I don't make sense, but I'm trying. :p
     
  18. Dreamoftheiris

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    You are your greatest teacher. Guidance can be necessary if the path gets too bumpy. I myself found guidance in a member of this forum, but it all depends on the person. Most of us will at least need some words of encouragement somewhere along the path.
     
  19. Bhaskar

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    Here's what the Guru does - the Guru teaches you to rely on yourself. As opposed to what we are all doing right now, which is relying on our mind and intellect, which are in essence limited entities and not your true self. The mind will lead you astray.

    Meditation is not supposed to be in your comfort zone. It is meant to shine the light on all those horrible dark parts of your mind that you are afraid of. It is meant to give you the courage and strength top face your demons and overcome them. It's not just sitting down and feeling good.
    No, you are fine. Don't ever hesitate to question. Be confident in yourself and live honestly your truth. The questions you asked were your true questions and they're good questions. Stop doubting yourself.
     
  20. Chodpa

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    Value of guru is that they have something a bit more than oneself. They can smooth bumps, place things in perspective, show the goal and the way. Clarify points of confusion. They are the master at the meditation of their lineage.

    We all have known restaurants where the owner is the chef and he cooks and the food is perfect, and then someday he burns out and trains others who copy his recipes until someday they quit and get fired and then the later people train the next until the food is nothing like what the original restaurant started with.

    At any rate the point was that each lineage starts with someone and ends with someone. I speak of lineages being like restaurants. We can discern quality output and service, and also weak output and service.

    Some people just like cooking at home.

    However, just think of the value to ones ability to cook if they spent time in various restaurants.
     

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