Meditation Warning

Meditation for me has been the telepathic connection to the common consciousness. Intense fear, anger and sadness are a part of the common consciousness. My suggestion is that you acheive the goal of bliss through other types of actions...my opinion after over 30 years of meditation.

love to all
Honor Seed

 

Could you explain what is meant by 'telepathic connection' and 'common consciousness'?

Could you also explain your goal of 'bliss'?

As a practicing buddhist I have never come across the term 'telepathic connection' in meditation...Could you please explain what your pratice is and your spiritual beliefs?

I very rarely here about this kind of extreme negative reaction to meditative practice in Buddhist practice. I also hold the view , as a Buddhist, that without meditation I could never even begin to reach for the goal of Nibbana or enlightenment, so i'm curious as too which types of methods you'd recommend to reach your goal as an alternative to meditation.

Peter

 

Yes, okay I will explain.

The answer is the parable is seed is the word of God.

Honor Seed

 

O Our consciousness is universal,
Meditation chimes us in to the ONE MIND
we all experience
subjectively.

LSD, wow!

 

You can achieve 30 years of meditation in a moment.
My advice is to just think,
think really hard.

"exercise the human brain knowing it is only just an exercise"

 

yup

 

I'm not convinced

 

from my standpoint I'm not lost.......however, there seem to be a lot of people that either thought I died or I should be dead after I finished up about 35 years of meditation in 2004, OCTOBER_NOVEMBER.

The incredible visions that numbered about 50,000 included Buddha sending of rays of ecstatic joy from ear to ear in white light arc. This was someone else living imagination I picked up on telepathically. Transcendence, in my opinion is defined by the ability to connect to other living peoples' imagination and memories handed down through thousands of years of DNA transfer and telepathic subconscious memory 'gifts'.
One can simply transcend telepathically to someone elses sense of bliss if that is the goal. I opened my consciousness to the collective consciousness of all living peoples.
I went with the flow of both exhilerating oragasmic exhaltation and extreme peaceful bliss. I went with the flow of terror and fear, and anger and rage. I taught the telepathic connections the meaning of mercy by the bible and preached to many visions for many hours. These 'angels', as some people like Saint John of Revelations think they were did not get much of a chance to put their words in. I simply talked for hours to them as they appeared, asked questions, waited sometimes for hours for an answer. There are many a living mind in this world who benefitted from the peace and love that I conveyed to the fearful and angry.
The dispersal of so much intense love and peace to the world and beyond meant that it seemed I was lost in the collective consciousness of all living including creatures living of all types. You shall reap as you sow. I shall reap as I sow. I am feeling the intense love and peace of all who will that to me now. It is the beginning of a telepathic transendental harvest for me.
Even right now as I felt the increase of peace and love from unknown other living people I am sending it to others I can think of and some of those are you who post here.
There is no one I've met or read about that has had an experience such as mine. This includes many who practice Buddhist meditation including the Dalai Lama. I have telepathically connected to these people and had mindspeak conversations. Some have produced visions, some choose to remain at a distance. It is possible these people were deceived and thought they were relating to a higher power during meditation when in fact it is only me, lost in space. I am a messenger of a telepathic truth that transcends traditional believers of all religeons. The prophets and the sages of the ages that are gone now are not to be worshipped, neither am I.

It may take many decades for science and religeon to come to a common belief on the subject of telepathic transcendence.

blessed be, namaste and peace and love

Honor Seed

 

Could you give us more detail, like where you were practicing, what tradition you follow (if any) and what pratice(s) you have used?

 

In all seriousness I think you've lost your way somewhere during your practices.
You believe you have telepathic supernatural powers. You believe you have been talking with supernatural metaphysical entities and 'higher powers'. This is delusion. Please seek psychiatric help.

I hope you get better.

 

why is it a delusion?

 

telepathy, i believe, has a lot to do with empathy and compassion, and selflessness,
we are all living in an energy plane, and manipulating that energy with everything that we sow,, our thoughts, our actions, our words...
for the sensative, picking up on how this energy was manipulated might give them a telepathic 'heads up' to whats going on around them,, their empathy might kick in and you might sense that peggy sue is bummin out a little,, or you might feel that the words she just said has more too them, or that she is straight up lying..
telepathy is real, and is a World more real and complex then that last simple paragraph i wrote,, which is more about empathy then telepathy,,

you gotta watch though,,, we are interpreting subjectively,, and when yourSelf isn't removed, you might be looking through a prism of your own troubles and concerned,, a prism, like that that captures the light and bends it,, and truly, i think i can never have that Self removed, so i never think what i'm sensing is Objective Truth,, it's always simply subjective,, you can be right, you can be wrong,, alwayssss hold your judgments in abeyance, and always give the benefit of the doubt,, we aren't super heros, we are just opening up to the More that this Earth is all about,, we're just humans here, we dont got it all figured out, not by a long shot,, there is much much more to this universe then we believe,, dont say the man is necessarily crazy,,

about communication with the otherworldly, or the cosmic,, i dunno what to say,, i know when i meditate, or look for answers inside myself, voices DO rain, and lessons ARE learned,,, sometimes very very moving, and sometimes the energy that's released from such tidbits of wisdom is a very real, very wow of a thing - uncloggin funk...
we are clogged up, and it is the growth of *the love that brings us together* that opens and clears us out,,
to make the assumption that whatever it is that shares such wisdom with us is anything outside of ourselves,, well, i dont know what to say,,,
i always heard: that there is the Known (which is always assumed), the Unknown, and the Unknowable,,
i think this, as far as i think my word is worth, is unknowable - if cosmic angels of sorts can assist us,,,
God knows if this Word has simply been in Us All since the beginning of time,, a hidden lake of Truth and Wisdom,, or if we are allotted it by angels, only when they wants to share it with us,,,
from my experience, whenever i ask, i recieve,, which makes me think it's upon us to be the seeker,
not necessarily wait idoly for help
even though, Surrender is Key!!!


edit: however, i dont think there should be a warning on meditation,,, maybe what someone is opened up to might hold in store a path of sorrow - as you are shown some of the darker of your corners,, but to stretch past all the pain that is given to us, there is much wisdom and other treasures,, and i think to have a connection with this path of looking into yourSelf is to live a conscious life,, whether what you find is overwhelming or liberating (i think, always, eventually, is liberating)... and also, for some, meditation is SIMPLY a relaxing exercise... not everyone get too deep into the shit,, life always becomes what it's meant to become of you, i think. dont make any expectations with your meditation

 

What has be discussed on this thread, rings true for a person that is most probably what some ppl call; Remote Viewing.

What HonorSeed is talking about for himself, I've heard from other ppl in regular society w/o all the * meta-physical * talky talk.

I met a regular lady in her 50's, who read some article on meditation in a regular magazine like redbook or some other mainstream rag, and had a experience with His Holiness the Dali Lama.

His Holiness was surprised that she was there (where ever * there * is) and said to her- what are you doing here? You're not supposed to be here!

She said OOPS! This lady had never meditated before in here life and she didn't have any prior knowledge of His Holiness, but after a while figured out who he was.

I think that some of our beloved * High Holys * are very surprised when there is spontaneous * consciousness *...

It gives us a good feeling that we may just * get there * after all!

Maybe because more and more of us * regular joe's * start popping into the consciousness stream, there will be that shift..

Some people mediate as a discipline as guided by teachings for a purpose. And then there is mediation to jump onto the trans-universal cosmic highway!

One time I got there, briefly for about 10 seconds...I happened to be in a Peyote Meeting. But it wasn't the Dali Lama, just so of my relatives, and they were surprised too. I'm not disciplined at all when it comes to meditation and meta-physical remote viewing and all that. Just a person who happens to belong to a Indigenous Ceremonial Family. And sometimes I think that this *place* is where all the healing and miracles occur, and that we bring them back here to manifest.

I've heard it said by some ppl that practice the Tibetan Buddhist Practices and What I've read a book published back in like 1920 called Magic and Mystery in Tibet, that this is quite common. This reality and that reality are real. That there is no difference between sleeping and waking realities, just our awareness of them.

I think it's fun when the realities bleed through and you can feel it and see it and enjoy!

JM2cents

 

I have had some contact on this subject with a few other newsgroups since last November. The responses vary from Peterness to MagnanimityMans.

For Peterness, I think this. There are many teenagers and younger kids right down to the age when they can first talk that see and hear things that are external influences. Some of these are very upsetting to them and many times the adult does not have the ability to explain. The result can be a pysch doctor visit. The doctor, who does not have an awareness of external influences, shrugs it off as delusion on the part of the patient and prescribes drugs and/or therapy. One of the worst effects, in my opinion, is a mother who receives intense hate telepathic vibrations, and 'translates' that feeling to words that tell her to throw her kids off the end of the dock. This happened recently on the west coast. Would those kids lives been spared had some professional people spent the time with her explaining how and why she hears mindspeak that is not a possession by a supernatural demon, but a reception of a group entity or even single living entity that, at times, projects hate?
History has shown us that the church, with its' beliefs rooted in superstition and ignorance have not been kind to many others. The Catholic church, in 1992, finally forgave Gallileo for his scientific viewpoints. I think it is the Catholic church that needs to be forgiven. The deaths of so many innocents through the ages, the times now are a renewal of the human spirit and the soul upon which the spirit comes to action from.

For many years now the moth has not flown to the light. You can not teach some people what they already don't know. For me telepathy is proven. I smile and think I love you at the back of a strangers child at the market and that child immediately turns around looking me straight in the eyes and says hello. Tele-empathy? I think so.

What adults' mind is so frought with the cares of the world that they cannot sense the feelings of the world? There are none as far as I can tell, all creatures great and small transcend to some degree telepathically. The electro-chemical synapse transfers between neurons yield a brainwave that has been measured by scientists at 4 feet. But it goes much further. The children at the market were further away. The adults on their way to my home were miles away when I received signals they were showing up ten minutes later.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio (Peterness),
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

For MagnanimityMan and synaptic aether, I think this.
There are a great many threads on the Paranormal Studies forum at abovetopsecret.com that are about people, like you and I that have visions of shadow people. The description of exact appearance varies slightly from my own experience, but the message is always the same. They feel fear when they appear. Having seen several thousand instead of just a few, my reaction is different. One thing about this is that the telepathic incoming negativity (TIN), the fear emotion in this case, manifests itself in many cases as the same visual impression. One father saw these figures standing next to his babies crib. What causes a baby to suddenly cry in the middle of the night? What mind so open and sharing as a young infant attracts the seeking energy that fears? And yes, if you feel fear for no apparent reason, there is a good chance you are receiving a group entities or individuals living brainwave input of fear. These are not demons of the departed, these energy clouds do not possess the minds of the aware.

All is well when we receive happy incoming vibrations, many think that it is their own doing. Some think it is coming from a higher power. Some understand the difference.
Very few can discern where it comes from, happy is the most powerful emotion of all within the soul spirit named love. Shakespeare would have agreed. Yet many dwell on the fear and anger within love. And it was to these emotions in humankind he wrote plays.

It has been my experience during meditation that the fear and anger deceptively appear more powerful than happiness. it has been my experience projecting these emotions at adults that they suddenly wrinkle their foreheads, sometimes scratch their heads and generally look confused like they don't know where that thought/feeling came from. How different from the childrens' reaction to happiness that is and I will stop for now. Even my dogs recognition of times projected emotions wake them out of sound sleep is the awareness it comes from me. You, the readers and myself also, have a long way to go to understand telepathy. We are at the beginning of a Renaissance of the Mind.

love and peace, blessed be and namaste,
Honor Seed

 

ohh yeah, the sending love to babies and having them turn around is definitely true,,
same with cats especially,
and more then anything, i notice the birds outside chirp with the flux in my brainwaves, so damn clearly, and so ALWAYS,
folks would want you to believe that's schitzofrenia,, i dunno...

i guess your initial 'meditation warning' topic is wanting people to not get lost in that reality,,, sink into perceived schitzofrenia,
it's a hell of a world huh?? what a life

but, honorseed,,, do you have any words on influencing the telepathic plane??? sometimes i feel that me being a conductor with the birds chirpin is bad. i dont feel it's bad, but, are we supposed to be weaving so much, so carelessly, as to make the chirps sing?
this is also present when i'm in the dormrooms, and i crawl into bed after a long day of school and wanderin around, and my 3 roommates are still out in the center room-- i hear em out there, just having a good time, but sometimes being JERKS... when they're jerks, i kinda send them good love and send them good moral, and i feel righttt away their clownparty is over- the ship of fools sinks, and it's like they stumble over knowing their conversation and their energy was getting very ego-y and inneedoflove,,
i tell myself to let it go~ that it's just whats happening,,
but other times i can't help but to send em a Bomb,, is that wrong of me??
soemtimes i can't help but to send my telepathic opinion, which many times i notice puts a damper on the party,,, =\
any words? truly, i'm wantin to hear anything you have to say,
thanks, =)

 

jester,,,
i dont know if honorseed even claims he could sit and tell you about his day from across the country through the air,,,

now,, put aside telepathy,, there is a kind of energy healing called reiki, where reiki 'masters' can do energy work long distance,,, some claim that even being 'turned on' to the reiki energy, that simply walking into a grocery store, bearing your light, you can positively effect your community... i think this is a connection between us all, where words aren't our only kind of communication

but, telepathy to the test,,,,, is how i can shut my foulmannered roommates up when they're getting out of hand, with just wishing them peace and love... i jump in on the superorganism of conversation they've created, and kinda say 'hey, you guys are getting out of control, calm it down a little bit with love and peace',,, just intend it,, and you know,,, every SINGLE time, that vibration i sent to em shakes up their foolparty., even though for all they know, i went into the other room to go to sleep...

 

HonorSeed is explaining
UNIVERSAL EPIPHANIES
that all occured to me
while on LSD.

It's logic,
it's progression,
and it's distinguishing the body from the mind.

 

study lucid dreams,
study Your own self-conscious, listen to it.
It's weird.

Know that we're all sharing our existence,
especially when we dream.

We are all antenni.

Study astral projection,
acknowledge the balance with closed eyes
and you will see.

 

well, it happens always, absolutely, it's just how it is, or i'm always crazy,, which, is unknowable i guess.

and i didn't mean to replace his answer at all,,, i'm sorry man, the question is still right there for him to answer, i just put in my 2 cents, which was one single responce- my comment as a whole,, my intro, i think, was relevant to what i was talking about, i really didn't mean to replace his answer,, just wanted to speak my words jester,
and maybe they aren't conclusive,, who here is going to win you over?? i talked also about the birds chirpin, early, and how they sing on the seem of the telepathic plane that i perceive-- or that i'm connected to,, that is~~ how they sing so perfectly on that seem,, and how the flux in the nature of their song can be felt, i think that too are some words in telepathy's favor,, but in no way do i wanna conclude anything,, again, just my 2 cents.

and hey man,, the scientific method isn't the only way to live your life, experience, learn, and grow,, it aint.

 

yupppppp,, l~s~d~~~~ =)