Mel Gibson

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Lodui, Jul 31, 2006.

  1. seamonster66

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    yes and you are clearly a fucking genius matt, obviously,
     
  2. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    I don't think anyone said he was God, Jesus, or Satan.

    I didn't. I don't think not being God excuses racist rhetoric. I know lots of people who aren't god and don't go swearing about the Jews.

    This is on top of a movie where the Jews were repsonsible for the death of his lord. I'm surprised Jews didn't breath fire in that movie.
     
  3. seamonster66

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    ha, yea wank and burn, your own fucking link mentions he is a holocaust denier..

    Many of Hutton Gibson's beliefs and actions, including his promulgation of Holocaust revisionist theories, his association with known Holocaust deniers and his contention that malevolent Jewish conspiracies exist within the Catholic Church and around the world, are consistent with traditional anti-Semitism.
     
  4. YankNBurn

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    So because he denied the holocaust that makes him a Nazi party member? Seems another case of ignorant reading skills, lack of intelligent understanding of what a person is talking about and the desire to twist the facts to make point where one does not exist.
     
  5. seamonster66

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    nazi/holocaust denier, I despise both ways of thinking....the distinction is rather slight

    perhaps you agree with what mel gibson/holocaust deniers say?
     
  6. YankNBurn

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  7. Pressed_Rat

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    So what if he questions the Holocaust? So do I! Most of you people don't have a clue who was behind the creation of Israel and what their intent was. The same people who were behind the creation of Israel funded Hitler and used the deaths of innocent Jews to garner support for Israel's creation. The people who created Israel are sick, twisted people, as are the people behind it today. The Jews have been used by the zionist elite for their own gain.
     
  8. seamonster66

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    its one thing to question the holocaust and what was behind it, quite another to deny that it ever happened
     
  9. YankNBurn

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    Oh yes I agree with a statement I have yet to hear, I am a follower like that, LMAO!

    So is the line between ignorance and stupidity, and the line between a traitor and a revolutionist but we do have lines for a reason.
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

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    Well, I don't deny it happened. Neither does Gibson's father. I know that it happened and that Jews were murdered. So were communists, cripples, the mentally retarded, gypsys and Christians.
     
  11. seamonster66

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    right, so you are not a "holocaust denier" as Mel Gibson's dad is
     
  12. Lodui

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    The use of the phrase nazi to refer to anti-semitic statments is very common Yank. Posting a wiki link to the Nazi party isn't helpful to anyone.
     
  13. Pressed_Rat

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    The thing is, he isn't a Holocaust denier. The establishment calls anyone a Holocaust denier who doesn't accept every aspect of the official explanation for the Holocaust without question. Most deemed "Holocaust deniers" don't deny that the Holocaust existed, they just deny certain aspects of it, such as the number killed, the gas chambers, the bars of soap made from Jewish flesh, etc..
     
  14. Lodui

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    Most Holocaust deniers aren't denying that there weren't people murdered by the Nazi state. They deny it singled out the Jews, and that there weren't extermination camps, and greatly contend the numbers killed. Usually it's not a specific number, but they call the number a zionist lie.
     
  15. YankNBurn

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    If a person during that pre Nazi rule time from Germany would tell you that they were all starving, people dying from no food ect. There were people who had money and the ability to set forth loans to the country to attempt to change this action. The money was asked for and denied. When the party grew strong by the countries people looking for a change, they took the money from those who had it and denied to lend it earlier. They used this money to drive the machine, to employ, feed and empower the country. Soon this poor starving third world country became a super power and in the wake of this movement terrible terrible acts against many people were done.

    Some of these acts were done from hate, the hate that some had towards a group of bankers and investors that happen to come from a certain background. These bankers and investors were the ones they believed held the key to years of death and suffering for the country and the people.

    Do I believe anyone is justified in what was done? Hell no! Do I believe it is an isolated situation? Hell no! Do I believe it would happen again? Yes! Do I believe anyone would be willing to kill others if they felt it was thier only means of survival and be willing to destroy others who a person believed might be the cause of suffering? Hell yes!

    So many take little tid bits of history to look at instead of the big picture.

    So they deny the holocaust, maybe they believe just as many people died or more from money not being lent to attempt to improve a starving country, that the death of those was a required need to help out more? I dont know, Mel and his father have yet to extend an invite to me for coffee to discuss thier beliefs. Im glad they have for you and your learned so much.
     
  16. YankNBurn

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    I forgot its okay to toss out terms and names on this forum with no means of backing it up and even when completely wrong its still okay because so many others do it and its common. I guess because its so common for the media to print that hippies and rainbows are jobless dirty disease infested people that one should not wish to clarify that too. Thanks glad to know the masses can use any term to describe a person even thou it falls short of reality.
     
  17. Lodui

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    Yes, the whole semantics of english should be called into question because it doesn't always conform to the denotation of the word Nazi.

    All because anti-semitic people are written off with a word you feel is too harsh...

    It's really great that you're out here sticking up for the anti-semites.
     
  18. Balloonatic

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    mel gibson makes me laugh.

    have you seen signs? that was way overkill, he cannot act.
     
  19. Lodui

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    Yeah, Signs was pretty crappy.
     
  20. YankNBurn

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    I just dislike generalization of people and mislabled. As for thier beliefs I could not give a rats ass (and I dont own a rat so I cant).

    It just seems easy to slam a person in the lime light. Hate him fine, but give a rip about a persons comments while drunk? Thats what this whole thing is about, comments he made while drunk and a movie he made that I guess the jewish community did not like although it is based off a book he did not write and its not the first time this has been done just he depicted the torture as it would have really been given historic facts of devices and actions of the times. Im not a bible thumper so here is goes, if the jewish people did that to a person then accept it, if the Nazi party did what is said, accept it, the white settlers did what they did to the indians accept it. Its the past, learn from it and accept people made mistakes.

    Dont watch his movies ect, thats your choice, cool do it.
     
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