Melatonin

What do you guys think. Now we all know weed(or if you really wanna get knocked out and possibly not remember a rampage, ambien) is the best sleep aid. But weed is not always an option. So I have this big bottle of melatonin next to me now, just popped one. So does it really make you feel tired? Do you think it's placebo? Should I take one then take whole bottle, strip naked and trash my room? Oh wait no nvm that's for ambien.

 

do it anyway, without the drugs even, maybe you need some stress relief?..

 

it actually works surprisingly well.ive found i need to take 2.

 

nah i'm a pretty stress free person.

Still don't know wtf happened that night with the ambien, I apparently was coherent enough to make food at one point and not wake up the house.

Actually I do partially know, I took like 15mg of ambien, then somewhere along the line took another 50-60mg.

 

sounds like me and xanax , lol... I am not sure what happened, but i can gather that i took 6mgs and then at some point took the other ten... = how the next morning after xanax always plays out..

 

My dad takes melatonin and says it works wonders. He's a bad insomniac, too, so it must be pretty good.

 

I take it every night

I dont think its placebo. For people who are used to illegal recreational drugs its not going to feel like shit, and will likely be easy to write it off as placebo. A few hits of weed will put you down way harder than melatonin.

So anyways I take 2 everynight, bout 45 min-1hr before I go to sleep. I got the 3 mg pills, so its 6mg. I do find it to help me get to sleep a little quicker if I'm laying down comfortably about 1 hour after taking them.

Another thing worth mentioning is the effect on dreams... gives you surprisingly strange and vivid dreams, consistently. And I'm not the only one who experiences this.. you could prolly find something bout it online

Edit: Oh yeah and in regards to taking the whole bottle (ik you werent serious but thought id mention).... I've found that anything above 9mg seemed to have the opposite effect. 15mg made me feel just very uncomfortable and restless.. very nasty feeling, made me a little dizzy too. Point being that I think there is a certain dose range that works best for sleep and beyond that is just a waste and can be counter-productive.

 

i can't get enough of dredg right now... listen up music lovers....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vTYykM-aWs"]YouTube - Dredg- Same Ol' Road *with lyrics*

 

melatonin is legit, I've been taking it every night/day (depending when I have to work) since I was about 10. It's not placebo contrary to what some believe, it is a precursor to serotonin. I took some accidentally before work once and was sleeping on the job 2 hours later. I have built a tolerance over the years and need to take 10-20mg to get me to sleep but 5mg should be plenty for a normal person. It won't knock you out like Ambien but it will definitely help quiet your brain and make you just sleepy enough to drift off so long as you don't fight it. But yeah, I work weird hours and sometimes have to sleep when I'm not even tired and melatonin always does the trick.

 

Maybe i should actually try this, as i always find it hard to fall asleep when i actually need too.

 

Yeah, it can't hurt... just don't expect it to knock you out like pharms though. I usually take it about 30mins - 1 hour before I want to sleep, take a hot shower and get into bed with a book or Kindle... can't read more than a few pages before my eyes are too heavy to hold open any longer. It also is really cool to mix on the tail end of certain trips, it goes beautifully with tryptamines

 

I was on the cannabis culture forums back in the day and remember reading good things about someone doing an experiment with melatonin and pot... i will probably not try it... I don't take drugs i may actually need, it scares me, if that makes sense...

 

fucking beautiful...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1IujGUqyvI"]YouTube - Dredg Not That Simple

 

melatonin always knocks me out and always gives me weird dreams

 

lol not really but that's ok.. funny thing, I can't sleep when I'm stoned. Weed doesn't make me hyper or anything like it does to some, but I guess it puts my mind on overdrive so much so that I can't sleep until I'm down and burnt out for a good few hours. Taking melatonin before I'm sober has just produced a groggy half-stoned, half-awake, irritable sort of trancey state that I come out of wide awake but unalert once it wears off. But I have weird reactions to almost everything so I'm sure it's a nice combo for others...

 

Let me explain, i don't like taking drugs for any type of real issue i may have,,, ADD or insomnia, i don't sleep much at all, and i don't like to take drugs to make my body sleep, it just doesn't want to sleep... it seems unnatural to take a drug for such a reason... just my opinion though

*edit*
depending on a drug makes me weak... basically that is why i don't

 

hmm, ok I guess I see what you're saying but I see you around the psyche boards sometimes, wouldn't it be reasonable to say you "depend" on drugs for recreational/spiritual purposes or is that different? Not trying to start shit, just looking at it from another angle

 

Melatonin has always worked for me and definitely gives me weird dreams. I find it works best for me in small doses, I usually end up halving a 3mg pill. I know an insomniac that tried everything except ambien and nothing worked except melatonin, he was averaging three hours of sleep a night for months before he discovered melatonin.

 

1st.. i take no offense nor am i trying to defend myself, no arguement here,,,

I take psychedelics cause it offers a fresh look at life, something i can't quite replicate sober. I don't take them cause i need to, see what i am saying.. If i can't sleep and i take something to make me sleep for me it may = dependence... not fucking cool... I was hooked on opiates for a long while in early 20's..... psychs pulled me out of it, i don't know how exactly to put into words.... I don't ever want to depend on anything to help me deal with normal aspects of life like sleep, or depression, just not me...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLM4jm_U-0I"]YouTube - Dredg-It only took a day

 

ive never used melatonin, but valerian knocks me out. only downside is it can come out through your pores, and it smells bad. but it makes me sleep like a rock.