million women rise

Discussion in 'Feel Good Feminism' started by robdan, Jan 29, 2011.

  1. robdan

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    hi all,
    hope your all well

    just to let you know on the 5th of march 2011 there will be a demostration in the centre of london suppporting women and children who have been through domestic violence by men

    A woman’s right to live free from violence and / or the fear of violence has not been achieved. Women continue to be attacked and violated in many different ways, in our homes, on our streets, on our public transport, at our places of work. The government, the TV and newspapers do very little to address this issue; instead they often blame women for wearing the wrong clothes or being in the wrong place.
    If you think this needs to change, then join us on a public demonstration to show those in power that it’s just not good enough! We need to show our mass dissatisfaction; we need to be strong together and in large numbers. Unity is strength; the voices of many are louder together than a single voice.

    the website is http://www.millionwomenrise.com

    i have been attending for the past 3 years and it is an amazing experiance, i never leave with dry eyes.

    Coaches and buses are being arranged to come to London in the following places

    Barking and Dagenhan Margaret margaret.williams@lbbd.gov.uk
    Bedford Nicola missnicoladyke2@hotmail.co.uk
    Birmingham Shahida shahidachoudhry@aol.com
    Bradford Jane janewriteme@gmail.com
    Cheltenham Jo cheltfems-1@yahoo.co.uk
    Cornwall Mandy mandy.barnes@wrasac.plus.comCymru (Wales) millionwomenrisecymru2010@hotmail.co.uk
    Gloucester Jo cheltfems-1@yahoo.co.uk
    Huddersfield Louise & Tracy tracy.drake@talktalk.net
    Hull Clair warrencando@hotmail.com
    Leeds Anna mothers_against_violence@hotmail.co.uk
    Manchester Tasneem & Sameer mwrmanchester@gmail.com
    Nottingham Rahni rahni@roshninotts.org.uk
    South London Ego WakefieldRobinrmjoss@gmail.com

    please spread the word and join us to make a difference
    love to live, live to love
     
  2. Duck

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    Yup, men are evil and never get abused.
     
  3. robdan

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    its not about men being evil and never abused i know men get abused just as much as women but this march represents international womens day and offers support to those still suffering.
     
  4. Oz!

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    yeah, lets not bother naming names or treating people as individuals.. lets just say it's demonstrating against violence "by men"

    surely a demonstration against domestic violence that encompasses the whole spectrum of the repulsive behaviour would be much more effective?
     
  5. robdan

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    i understand your point but this is not aimed at all men only to the ones that cause suffering to women.

    Women and children in the UK and elsewhere around the world continue to experience violence every minute of every hour of every day in our homes, on our streets, on our public transport, at our places of work and in countries where there is war. The idea for the Million Women Rise event came from a group of women who dreamed of a strong visible presence of thousands of women marching together, in unity, to say 'enough is enough'.

    Women have been socially, culturally and economically conditioned to defer to men, to take our lead from men, to behave in ways approved of by men. On this particular day, we want women to come and feel the strength, the exhilaration and power of being with other women, to celebrate ourselves, to sing, shout and chant at the top of our voices, in all our diversity, to demonstrate however we want because we're women in the company of other women.


    this is why it is an all womens march
     
  6. Oz!

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    the fact that you don't even include Men in that sentence tells me all i need to know about you and this march..

    sexism that we really don't need need in the center of London in 2011

    do you really want to teach children that only one aspect of domestic violence should be demonstrated against on march 5th? and that the exclusion of men who are against and wish to see an end to domestic violence is acceptable?
     
  7. robdan

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    we will be teaching our children to be strong and stand up for what they believe in and they will know that it is part of international womens day so therefore it is part of making womens voices stronger.

    i believe this march does need to be in london on 5th of march to change the veiws of narrow minded people who think we should include men in everything we do.
     
  8. Duck

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    You are teaching children that men are abusers.

    Abuse against men in relationships has been on the rise for decades, yet you sexistly march for women and children only.
     
  9. SunnyHappyVegan

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    Many men are not abusers. Many women aren't either. And children can be good too ;)

    Domestic Violence can harm anybody- whether man or woman, adult or child, but it is definitely more common for women and children to be abused.
    Even when domestic violence is addressed unrestricted to a certain sex or age group, it seems to wind up talking more about women than men.
    We really do need to fight for indifference and equality though.

    Anyway, regardless of sex, domestic violence needs to end! Hope this goes well! :)
     
  10. robdan

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    thanks for your support and opinions i couldnt have said it better than that
     
  11. dollyfizz

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    Well I'm glad we cleared that up...
     
  12. Oz!

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    please go back to the 20th century .... the world is outgrowing you
     
  13. Dancing til Dawn

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    hehehe that made me smile :2thumbsup:
     
  14. Zorba The Grape

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    This.

    I realize a lot of people think this way, members of both sexes, but it still seems backward to me. We're all people and we can all relate to different things in different ways. When you get to the point of a million women marching, their biological femininity is about all you can say they all have in common. What about the women who would like to allow men to join the demonstration? Do their Opinions As Women not matter? Just let people enjoy one another without your silly politics getting in the way.
     
  15. RobynCB90

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    For those of you who are opposed to this idea:

    Firstly, the VAST majority of domestic abuse is towards women. Men, of course, get abused as well and it should be fought against as well. But because Women have a history of being treated as lower class compared to men, it encompasses more than just abuse.

    Also, it is 'international' women's day. There is far more abuse towards women in other parts in the world than North America or England. The focus is on the world, London is just doing its part to raise awareness.

    It's like black history month: are you going to tell african americans to stop fighting against racism? Because both racism and sexism exists. Of course one can say that there is racism against white people too, but because the majority of the abuse is directed to blacks, now and in the past, it makes sense to concentrate on that.

    Also, I think it would be great it men joined in. I don't know what the protocols are, but I don't see why men couldn't be allowed to join. I feel everyone is equal, but the point is to raise awareness to the problem rather than just saying: everything is fine, because it's not.
     
  16. dollyfizz

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    Haha! Thanks for your +! Tried to say it in a pm but no can do :( x
     
  17. Duck

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    This thread is an example of that.

    It makes sense to concentrate on it?
    So crimes against the majority don't matter because they are the majority?
    How is that any less offensive than ignoring the problems of someone because they are a minority?
     
  18. RobynCB90

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    I never said they don't matter. In fact, it would probably be best if we just had "stop racism month" or "equality march" but for some parts of the world it may be interpreted as "Yes, we MEN are equal, blahblahblah." Do I think that because it happens less frequently that it should be ignored? Of course not.

    And these are crimes against the majority: there are more women in the world than men. And racism is a crime against the minority: because the black population is less than the white in many parts of the USA. So neither is being ignored... I agree that abuse against men should be discussed, but because the the abuse against women is much greater and far more hostile (in certain parts of the world) it makes sense to have a focus, that being it.
     
  19. Dancing til Dawn

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    Why cant you? Id better empty mi box!
     
  20. Duck

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    If a politician were to run on stopping illegal immigration, all would be fine. Now, if the same politician were to run on stopping illegal immigration by Mexicans; that would make things quite a bit more controversial.

    Now, even though a majority of illegal immigrants are Mexcian; it would be seen as generalizing, defaming, and racist against Mexicans.

    This Million Women March specifically states: to end male violence against women.
    It says nothing about the violence caused by other women, the violence caused towards men (by women, gay partners, or other bullies) -- this march is all about male violence.

    The focus of this march is using women's suffering for anti-male feminism.
     

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